Ph effects of calcium reactor?? - Page 2

SuperNerd · 12/15/2007, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jnarowe
you can make your own 2-part though. It's easy and cheap. I have to use a reactor because the size of my system.

So, do you connect calls on a phone system that radiates?

Quote:

Originally posted by skrappie1
jnarowe,
as a matter of fact i do connect phones that radiate.

i turn valves, operate pumps stuff like that

SuperNerd · 12/15/2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moo0o
people are directing their effluent into the skimmer, heard that helps with excess co2.

And when they do this they do not have to worry about the skimmer getting rid of some of the effluent material?

SuperNerd · 12/15/2007, 11:10 PM

I actually heard some people direct their effluent into a little cup with an airstone.

jnarowe · 12/15/2007, 11:12 PM

You don't really want any material making it into the system because if it is, it is really fine and could disturb your corals. Hopefully the media you use disolves in a manner in which there are no fines released into the system.

skrappie1 · 12/16/2007, 07:16 AM

sounds like if i do that then i won't need to worry too much about ph. I guess if my load gets really high then i would, but i would think at low flow i wouldn't have too much co2 carry over

fijiblue · 12/16/2007, 07:50 AM

I read that if you bring your PH up too quickly, whether it is from running effluent into the skimmer or airstone, that you can precipitate the calcium back into carbonate. I run through a makeshift 2nd chamber that brings my PH up from 6.7 to 7.1.

gojicraig · 12/16/2007, 01:11 PM

Jolly Roger, In your pic I noticed that the calcium reactor looks like a DIY. Is it? I am in the process of evaluating reactors myself. I am planning on adding a reactor and a Kalk doser or drip. I have a 270 with a 125 fuge/sump Soon to be heavily stocked / SPS and fish. Moderate right now. I've been following the thread on your other problem (sorry to hear about your tank, looks like a little adult beverage helps to get over the flu, huh? i'll keep that in mind!smokin

anyway, I know your tank is 1000, I like to go overboard at times (to be sure to not be at the systems limits) do you think that would be a good fit for me, if so where can I get plans? Or do you have other suggestions.....or anyone?: Steve the plumb how long have you been dosing two part? Does it add up?$$$$ or get old after awhile? By the way Steve we have 12" on the ground and more coming here in Detroit, so I feel your pain!

jnarowe · 12/16/2007, 01:54 PM

gojicraig: Yes, definitely DIY. It's got floss, carbon, Ca media, and GFO all in the same unit. They can be made any size. Mine holds about 50 lbs. of media and 1.5g of carbon.

You are welcome to PM regarding building one, and you can see more pics by following the red house link. It's listed on the equipment page.

steve the plumb · 12/16/2007, 01:58 PM

I had been dosing the two part in my other tank(150 gal with 35 gal sump) Its very easy to use.I also made the mag part.I used the reef doser twin by aqua medic but there are other brands.Its very cheap and effective.This is a pic of my old tank.I plant to use the 2 part on my new tank but I don't have enough corals for now.

steve the plumb · 12/16/2007, 02:03 PM

The 2 part is very cheap and simple to make.Now if you have a very large system maybe you would get fed up of making it.In my old tank alk would last 7 days and cal about 2 weeks.I was using a 1 litre bottle.You can make the stuff stronger but I followed Randys recipe(reef chemistry forum) its made a little weaker than your store bought brands but its so much cheaper.You can but the stuff from one of the sponcers here.

steve the plumb · 12/16/2007, 02:04 PM

this site has everything you would need http://www.twopartsolution.com/

gojicraig · 12/16/2007, 02:22 PM

Thanks guys I will pm you Jonathan. Steve I will check out the link. Man, how does anyone ever make up their mind with sooooo many choices and options? I feel almost lost!

gojicraig · 12/16/2007, 02:23 PM

by the way Steve, Great tank!

skrappie1 · 12/16/2007, 06:34 PM

JNA,
Thanks for advice, now i am trying to read your tank build thread, that is one amazing tank.

Steve,
I appreciate the info, may look at doing the 2 part thing for awhile, not sure, will have to read about it in that website you gave me. Either way you guys have been helpful. I appreciate it.

jnarowe · 12/16/2007, 08:31 PM

no sweat. if you decide you want to build, LMK. Everything I build could be done by a monkey, but I do base my designs on extensive research.

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 10:04 AM

you guys do know that dow flake now is not usable in reefs,due to the bromide level in the new product.also imo using just baking soda for alk control can lead to problems also.two part does not seem to be a easy,cheap alternative now or in the future.

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 10:13 AM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...4&goto=newpost

jnarowe · 12/17/2007, 11:33 AM

don't have to use Dow Flake though. Driveway Heat is just as good eh?

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 01:47 PM

sorry to say,also a dow product

steve the plumb · 12/17/2007, 02:20 PM

Randy from the reef chemistry forum has said its safe to use the two part. gojicraig that was my old tank.Everything died in a kalk disaster while I was on vacation.I had used the two part without any problems for over 2 years.

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 02:37 PM

he is saying he does not know that it is safe

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 02:40 PM

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...0#post11403910

steve the plumb · 12/17/2007, 02:53 PM

My stash is 2 year old he always said it was safe to use maybe things have changed.I am also using magflakes and epson salt.I know epson salt is one of the main ingredient in the store bought brands,

rigleautomotive · 12/17/2007, 03:00 PM

at this point in time i think a cal reactor or kalk is the way to go if you dont have a old stock of dow.you can buy clean cacl but it is not cheap,even in 50 lb bags.

jnarowe · 12/17/2007, 03:01 PM

hmmmm...maybe I should sell off my 2 year's supply of Driveway Heat at a premium?

12/15/2007, 11:10 PM	#28
SuperNerd Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal/Left Side- USA Posts: 4,572	I actually heard some people direct their effluent into a little cup with an airstone. __________________ I said fraggit! Current Tank Info: M-728 Combat Engineer (based on M60 hull). M-3 Lee Medium (British version with squatter).

12/15/2007, 11:12 PM	#29
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	You don't really want any material making it into the system because if it is, it is really fine and could disturb your corals. Hopefully the media you use disolves in a manner in which there are no fines released into the system. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

12/16/2007, 01:54 PM	#33
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	gojicraig: Yes, definitely DIY. It's got floss, carbon, Ca media, and GFO all in the same unit. They can be made any size. Mine holds about 50 lbs. of media and 1.5g of carbon. You are welcome to PM regarding building one, and you can see more pics by following the red house link. It's listed on the equipment page. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

12/16/2007, 08:31 PM	#40
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	no sweat. if you decide you want to build, LMK. Everything I build could be done by a monkey, but I do base my designs on extensive research. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

12/17/2007, 10:04 AM	#41
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	you guys do know that dow flake now is not usable in reefs,due to the bromide level in the new product.also imo using just baking soda for alk control can lead to problems also.two part does not seem to be a easy,cheap alternative now or in the future. __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

12/16/2007, 07:16 AM	#30
skrappie1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: coloma, michigan Posts: 125	sounds like if i do that then i won't need to worry too much about ph. I guess if my load gets really high then i would, but i would think at low flow i wouldn't have too much co2 carry over

12/16/2007, 07:50 AM	#31
fijiblue Moved On Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: unfortunately here Posts: 1,895	I read that if you bring your PH up too quickly, whether it is from running effluent into the skimmer or airstone, that you can precipitate the calcium back into carbonate. I run through a makeshift 2nd chamber that brings my PH up from 6.7 to 7.1.

12/16/2007, 01:11 PM	#32
gojicraig Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: St. Clair Shores,Mi Posts: 19	Jolly Roger, In your pic I noticed that the calcium reactor looks like a DIY. Is it? I am in the process of evaluating reactors myself. I am planning on adding a reactor and a Kalk doser or drip. I have a 270 with a 125 fuge/sump Soon to be heavily stocked / SPS and fish. Moderate right now. I've been following the thread on your other problem (sorry to hear about your tank, looks like a little adult beverage helps to get over the flu, huh? i'll keep that in mind!smokin anyway, I know your tank is 1000, I like to go overboard at times (to be sure to not be at the systems limits) do you think that would be a good fit for me, if so where can I get plans? Or do you have other suggestions.....or anyone?: Steve the plumb how long have you been dosing two part? Does it add up?$$$$ or get old after awhile? By the way Steve we have 12" on the ground and more coming here in Detroit, so I feel your pain!

12/16/2007, 01:58 PM	#34
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	I had been dosing the two part in my other tank(150 gal with 35 gal sump) Its very easy to use.I also made the mag part.I used the reef doser twin by aqua medic but there are other brands.Its very cheap and effective.This is a pic of my old tank.I plant to use the 2 part on my new tank but I don't have enough corals for now.

12/16/2007, 02:03 PM	#35
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	The 2 part is very cheap and simple to make.Now if you have a very large system maybe you would get fed up of making it.In my old tank alk would last 7 days and cal about 2 weeks.I was using a 1 litre bottle.You can make the stuff stronger but I followed Randys recipe(reef chemistry forum) its made a little weaker than your store bought brands but its so much cheaper.You can but the stuff from one of the sponcers here.

12/16/2007, 02:04 PM	#36
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	this site has everything you would need http://www.twopartsolution.com/

12/16/2007, 02:22 PM	#37
gojicraig Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: St. Clair Shores,Mi Posts: 19	Thanks guys I will pm you Jonathan. Steve I will check out the link. Man, how does anyone ever make up their mind with sooooo many choices and options? I feel almost lost!

12/16/2007, 02:23 PM	#38
gojicraig Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: St. Clair Shores,Mi Posts: 19	by the way Steve, Great tank!

12/16/2007, 06:34 PM	#39
skrappie1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: coloma, michigan Posts: 125	JNA, Thanks for advice, now i am trying to read your tank build thread, that is one amazing tank. Steve, I appreciate the info, may look at doing the 2 part thing for awhile, not sure, will have to read about it in that website you gave me. Either way you guys have been helpful. I appreciate it.

12/17/2007, 10:13 AM	#42
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	dow thread http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...4&goto=newpost

12/17/2007, 11:33 AM	#43
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	don't have to use Dow Flake though. Driveway Heat is just as good eh? __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

12/17/2007, 01:47 PM	#44
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	sorry to say,also a dow product __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

12/17/2007, 02:20 PM	#45
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	Randy from the reef chemistry forum has said its safe to use the two part. gojicraig that was my old tank.Everything died in a kalk disaster while I was on vacation.I had used the two part without any problems for over 2 years.

12/17/2007, 02:37 PM	#46
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	he is saying he does not know that it is safe __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

12/17/2007, 02:40 PM	#47
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	current thread on bromide http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...0#post11403910

12/17/2007, 02:53 PM	#48
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	My stash is 2 year old he always said it was safe to use maybe things have changed.I am also using magflakes and epson salt.I know epson salt is one of the main ingredient in the store bought brands,

12/17/2007, 03:00 PM	#49
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	at this point in time i think a cal reactor or kalk is the way to go if you dont have a old stock of dow.you can buy clean cacl but it is not cheap,even in 50 lb bags. __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

12/17/2007, 03:01 PM	#50
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	hmmmm...maybe I should sell off my 2 year's supply of Driveway Heat at a premium? __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted