beginner beliefs that are subject to change... - Page 2

NewFish3 · 02/28/2008, 12:25 PM

Dont know what number your on.I lost track.

# ?.........( LFS )....its not as hard as everyone makes it out to be is it..

Cope · 02/28/2008, 12:28 PM

I think there may be a slight tendency to over complicate thing a little on this site. A long time ago, In a land far far away, I started my first salt tank. I had bought a hundred gal off a guy for a good price, what did I know it was my first ever fish tank. because of all the nay sayers I was setting up to do FW. I had CC over an undergravel filter, I was gonna do a chilid tank. A few days in to the cycle with live gold fish, I went to a different LFS where one guy said "It's not as hard as everyone makes it seem." He told me how the salt watter hobby is a sort of "Old boys club." Well I bought a bag of salt, went home removed the gold fish, dumped the salt in the tank, And never looked back. (the few days with gold fish are the only FW EXP I ever had.) Over the course of years I have done a lot that would get me flamed here.

I'm sure you have to.

At least now with the internet it is easer for folks who want to learn to do so. I think we should all encourage the new folks.

SK8R This is in no way a flame on your post. I just wanted to say there is more than one path to the end of the road.
If you have a few grand to set up a new SW tank then great, If not buy what you can and set it up as you go.
JMHO
Cope

epstein · 02/28/2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by an411
What is wrong with putting your hands in the tank?

Lets see....bristle worms .....stinging sea life....poisonous/allergic reaction criters....and bacteria...

On our hands.....Oils (natural)......Bacteria/ germ killing soap (they all have it now)...cause we washed our hands before going in .....or washed em when we took em out and now put em back in again for that one little tweak

oh yeah Cuts on your hands......and its not condusive to baby soft hands......LOL....

Brian

NewFish3 · 02/28/2008, 12:57 PM

epstein,

so what your saying is snorkeling is deff out of the question then............lol

Ricky1066 · 02/28/2008, 02:10 PM

Boy I am so glad I did not make ANY of those beginer mistakes LOL

Come on you knwo you guys are laughing

I am thrown by the hands in the tank thing I do it all the time ..Is that why my arms are always red and itchy..Just kidding But i do stick them in there

suzimcmullen · 02/28/2008, 02:18 PM

Just how do you do all the chores needed without putting your hands in the tank once in awhile?

Suzi

techreef · 02/28/2008, 02:26 PM

Suzi,

Gloves of some sort. Full length up to the upper arm, or smaller ones that aren't as thick and therefore let you still "feel" whatever you're grabbing. Just make sure you don't use gloves that have the powder coating on the inside. (beat you to it sk8r!)

epstein · 02/28/2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NewFish3
epstein,

so what your saying is snorkeling is deff out of the question then............lol

Cute......Cute

suzimcmullen · 02/28/2008, 02:41 PM

Well I thought about the soap on the hands thing. I rinse my hands and make sure there is nothing on them. I HATE gloves. I'll take my chances. I do limit it as much as possible for the sake of the critters.

Suzi

WinnipegDragon · 02/28/2008, 02:46 PM

#18 (I think) - THE BLUE WORMS ARE REAL!

SReef · 02/28/2008, 02:46 PM

11) You can put fish in the first day

Tomorleans · 02/28/2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cope
[B]I think there may be a slight tendency to over complicate thing a little on this site.

agreed. I have a friend with a 1 year old 20 gal SW tank that looks outstanding. 80% of the methods he uses on his tank would get flamed on here.

Aquarist007 · 02/28/2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NewFish3
OH MY GOD...... Iam new at this.....but I have been through all of these things & all so true...........LMAO

Please STOP...............I gotta pee.......lol lol lol

there's another one
don't pee in your tank---it may be good to do it in the garden but not in your tank--too much ammonia

jamesnmandy · 02/28/2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NewFish3
epstein,

so what your saying is snorkeling is deff out of the question then............lol

not according to the GA Aquarium....they are offering snorkeling sessions and dive sessions in their main 6+ million gallon tank...LOL

and FYI, I peed in my tank to get the ammonia started, worked flawlessly, damn sure didnt hurt, doing very well thank you

jamesnmandy · 02/28/2008, 03:24 PM

i got one, not sure what number you are on

"No matter what anyone or any group of people on any website or LFS says, if you ask somewhere else someone or a group of people will tell you the exact opposite, yet both will claim to be right."

that has had to be the single biggest problem i had as a beginner over a year ago, one LFS would say one thing, the other LFS another thing, then you guys would say another thing, then another forum board would have a different consensus, etc...etc....

in the end i found out it was best to look for a majority theory on a particular subject and improvise yourself to fit your own needs, budget and ideas

people told me peeing in my tank was going to mess it up, not true in my case

people tell me you cannot figure your sump/return pump into your total water turnover rate, only powerheads, while another tells me you can ONLY count your sump in turnover rate and cannot count powerheads

people told me lots of things, in the end i made up my own mind and combined that with what seems to work for most people, it worked so far

Bippus · 02/28/2008, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WinnipegDragon
#18 (I think) - THE BLUE WORMS ARE REAL!

Nice

NewFish3 · 02/28/2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamesnmandy

and FYI, I peed in my tank to get the ammonia started, worked flawlessly, damn sure didnt hurt, doing very well thank you

I was cleaning the tank one night when I was drinking & mistakenly peed in the tank................. And the fish........ oh crap.......gotta go, I think the fish are in the toilet.....lol

Larah · 02/28/2008, 06:49 PM

I think this may be too much information ....... LOL!

agreeive?fish · 02/28/2008, 06:49 PM

Iam right your wrong and i thought i made a mistake once but i was mistaking...lol

Secondchance · 02/28/2008, 07:17 PM

So tell me a list of all the "right" things.

sanababit · 02/28/2008, 07:35 PM

so you guys actually pee'd in your tanks and still put your hands and arms in there, lol

sana

jamesnmandy · 02/28/2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sanababit
so you guys actually pee'd in your tanks and still put your hands and arms in there, lol

sana

your urine is not as "dirty" as you think...LOL, it's your's, i am pretty sure unless you are a monk you have put potentially dirtier things in your mouth, let alone your hands....you know, "doing the nasty"...LOL

but yeah, btw, my urine is at a perfect 1.025 SG, beautiful

reefergeorge · 02/28/2008, 08:59 PM

#? The Lfs told you they quarantine all the fish for you for 4 weeks. So there is no need for you to QT.

Aquarist007 · 02/28/2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamesnmandy
your urine is not as "dirty" as you think...LOL, it's your's, i am pretty sure unless you are a monk you have put potentially dirtier things in your mouth, let alone your hands....you know, "doing the nasty"...LOL

but yeah, btw, my urine is at a perfect 1.025 SG, beautiful

but its probably too warm to do a water change with

NewFish3 · 02/28/2008, 09:28 PM

capn......your killing me

should he use a chiller.....lol

02/28/2008, 12:25 PM	#26
NewFish3 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,096	Dont know what number your on.I lost track. # ?.........( LFS )....its not as hard as everyone makes it out to be is it.. __________________ On a scuba dive in the Cayman Islands, I kept thinking.........Why is that Fish getting bigger.........Then it hit me Current Tank Info: 7 years saltwater.. Setting up a 120 gal reef. Office BioCube 14...1 perc clown, 1 royal gramma, 1 six line wrasse, fire shrimp, cleaner shrimp, green stripe, brown shrooms, coco worm, purple leather, Misc CUC

02/28/2008, 12:28 PM	#27
Cope Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In deep water (SLT CA) Posts: 595	I think there may be a slight tendency to over complicate thing a little on this site. A long time ago, In a land far far away, I started my first salt tank. I had bought a hundred gal off a guy for a good price, what did I know it was my first ever fish tank. because of all the nay sayers I was setting up to do FW. I had CC over an undergravel filter, I was gonna do a chilid tank. A few days in to the cycle with live gold fish, I went to a different LFS where one guy said "It's not as hard as everyone makes it seem." He told me how the salt watter hobby is a sort of "Old boys club." Well I bought a bag of salt, went home removed the gold fish, dumped the salt in the tank, And never looked back. (the few days with gold fish are the only FW EXP I ever had.) Over the course of years I have done a lot that would get me flamed here. I'm sure you have to. At least now with the internet it is easer for folks who want to learn to do so. I think we should all encourage the new folks. SK8R This is in no way a flame on your post. I just wanted to say there is more than one path to the end of the road. If you have a few grand to set up a new SW tank then great, If not buy what you can and set it up as you go. JMHO Cope __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Current Tank Info: Soon to be 500 gallon mixed reef!

02/28/2008, 12:57 PM	#29
NewFish3 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,096	epstein, so what your saying is snorkeling is deff out of the question then............lol __________________ On a scuba dive in the Cayman Islands, I kept thinking.........Why is that Fish getting bigger.........Then it hit me Current Tank Info: 7 years saltwater.. Setting up a 120 gal reef. Office BioCube 14...1 perc clown, 1 royal gramma, 1 six line wrasse, fire shrimp, cleaner shrimp, green stripe, brown shrooms, coco worm, purple leather, Misc CUC

02/28/2008, 02:10 PM	#30
Ricky1066 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 1,029	Boy I am so glad I did not make ANY of those beginer mistakes LOL Come on you knwo you guys are laughing I am thrown by the hands in the tank thing I do it all the time ..Is that why my arms are always red and itchy..Just kidding But i do stick them in there __________________ 75gallon,75lbslr 60pdls, clown,yellow tang.3 cardinals.royal gamma,3 chromis,blenny,torpedo,cleanershrimp Current Tank Info: 75 gallon salt water starter

02/28/2008, 02:46 PM	#35
WinnipegDragon Canuckian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 1,276	#18 (I think) - THE BLUE WORMS ARE REAL! __________________ Working on a neeew tank! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=25596043

02/28/2008, 02:18 PM	#31
suzimcmullen Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 890	Just how do you do all the chores needed without putting your hands in the tank once in awhile? Suzi

02/28/2008, 02:26 PM	#32
techreef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 1,046	Suzi, Gloves of some sort. Full length up to the upper arm, or smaller ones that aren't as thick and therefore let you still "feel" whatever you're grabbing. Just make sure you don't use gloves that have the powder coating on the inside. (beat you to it sk8r!)

02/28/2008, 02:41 PM	#34
suzimcmullen Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 890	Well I thought about the soap on the hands thing. I rinse my hands and make sure there is nothing on them. I HATE gloves. I'll take my chances. I do limit it as much as possible for the sake of the critters. Suzi

02/28/2008, 02:46 PM	#36
SReef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Campbell CA Posts: 53	11) You can put fish in the first day

02/28/2008, 03:24 PM	#40
jamesnmandy Moved On Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 140	i got one, not sure what number you are on "No matter what anyone or any group of people on any website or LFS says, if you ask somewhere else someone or a group of people will tell you the exact opposite, yet both will claim to be right." that has had to be the single biggest problem i had as a beginner over a year ago, one LFS would say one thing, the other LFS another thing, then you guys would say another thing, then another forum board would have a different consensus, etc...etc.... in the end i found out it was best to look for a majority theory on a particular subject and improvise yourself to fit your own needs, budget and ideas people told me peeing in my tank was going to mess it up, not true in my case people tell me you cannot figure your sump/return pump into your total water turnover rate, only powerheads, while another tells me you can ONLY count your sump in turnover rate and cannot count powerheads people told me lots of things, in the end i made up my own mind and combined that with what seems to work for most people, it worked so far

02/28/2008, 06:49 PM	#43
Larah Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon USA Posts: 1,932	I think this may be too much information ....... LOL!

02/28/2008, 06:49 PM	#44
agreeive?fish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,803	Iam right your wrong and i thought i made a mistake once but i was mistaking...lol

02/28/2008, 07:17 PM	#45
Secondchance Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 56	So tell me a list of all the "right" things.

02/28/2008, 07:35 PM	#46
sanababit Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Uranus Posts: 3,094	so you guys actually pee'd in your tanks and still put your hands and arms in there, lol sana __________________ Senior Member of the "Hardly any Water Changes, Temp Swinging, T5ing, No Qtining, Frag Exchanging for Fish Food Current Tank Info: 90RR inwall, Octopuss Skimmer, 2 MP40 wQD, 1 MP10 WQD, 2 Radions G4 Pro, Apex Doser, Apex Controller, 400w heater, 30 Gal Sump, Biopellets, Carbon, Gfo, Macroalgae

02/28/2008, 08:59 PM	#48
reefergeorge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St Louis MO Posts: 4,222	#? The Lfs told you they quarantine all the fish for you for 4 weeks. So there is no need for you to QT. __________________ $35-50 for a <1" frag of some stupid named thing that came from a colony you bought for $40-60 wholesale and chopped into 20-40 pieces? No thanks. "JasonH" Current Tank Info: 125 aggressive reef, DIY led lighting, swc cone skimmer, 33 gallon sump, posiden Ps3 return.

02/28/2008, 09:28 PM	#50
NewFish3 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,096	capn......your killing me should he use a chiller.....lol __________________ On a scuba dive in the Cayman Islands, I kept thinking.........Why is that Fish getting bigger.........Then it hit me Current Tank Info: 7 years saltwater.. Setting up a 120 gal reef. Office BioCube 14...1 perc clown, 1 royal gramma, 1 six line wrasse, fire shrimp, cleaner shrimp, green stripe, brown shrooms, coco worm, purple leather, Misc CUC