Which HOB would you choose?

[krowleey]

Originally posted by 95accord
you missed one...TUNZE!!!!! 9002 or 9010 depending on how stocked your tank is.

mind you it is a in-tank skimmer.........(or can be placed in sump once you upgrade....)

this tank will never use a sump, not this set-up. and a in tank skimmer is out of the question i think. and as far as noise im sure fish don't really care to much for it.

[krowleey]

bump for more votes

[krowleey]

^^

[mfinn]

I just read a post by luke33 over on reeffrontiers, he said the Octopus HB 800s (sicce pump) has a 2" neck and that the sicce pump is way to much pump for it and overflows are a result.

krowleey, I would suggest you go over there and pm him to get first hand information. Or just start a thread.

[krowleey]

Originally posted by mfinn
I just read a post by luke33 over on reeffrontiers, he said the Octopus HB 800s (sicce pump) has a 2" neck and that the sicce pump is way to much pump for it and overflows are a result.

krowleey, I would suggest you go over there and pm him to get first hand information. Or just start a thread.

nooooo i was set on that skimmer, i really dont want to fork over 550 bucks for a hob, in fact i won't. i'll check it out and see whats up.

[krowleey]

Originally posted by mfinn
I just read a post by luke33 over on reeffrontiers, he said the Octopus HB 800s (sicce pump) has a 2" neck and that the sicce pump is way to much pump for it and overflows are a result.

krowleey, I would suggest you go over there and pm him to get first hand information. Or just start a thread.

hmm all i see if how much that skimmer kicks a$$. what is the thread called?

[mfinn]

Originally posted by krowleey
hmm all i see if how much that skimmer kicks a$$. what is the thread called?

luke33 brings up his point towards the end of the posts on this thread.

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/...ad.php?t=37175

[krowleey]

Originally posted by mfinn
luke33 brings up his point towards the end of the posts on this thread.

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/...ad.php?t=37175

i have read all through that and have not seen where he says I just read a post by luke33 over on reeffrontiers, he said the Octopus HB 800s (sicce pump) has a 2" neck and that the sicce pump is way to much pump for it and overflows are a result. am i missing it?

[mfinn]

In post #47 on the second page,

Quote:
Originally Posted by skimerwhisperer
as i mentioned, octopus does offer a similar skimmer now.
sadly, it's the most powerful hob out there, with the cnc marine version gone.
although, i dont think it's as good as the cnc version, it is the best power for your buck, at a price tag of $240

http://www.aquacave.com/octopus-hb-8...lvue-2346.html

im hoping that SWC will make this design of hob with a sicce pump, they offer it already with a otp pump:
http://www.aquacave.com/octopus-hb-8...lvue-2346.html

THEN LUKE33 SAID

CV stole the design from SWC except they put a sicce in the body. Only problem is the sicce pulls WAAAY to much air for a 2" neck. The dummies So if you buy it your going to get alot of overflows.

[jman77]

"you missed one...TUNZE!!!!! 9002 or 9010 depending on how stocked your tank is.

mind you it is a in-tank skimmer.........(or can be placed in sump once you upgrade....)"

He is asking for HOB's buddy...neither of the Tunze's are.

Plus, I would not waste my money on either, not worth the money considering what's out there..

[jman77]

You could get the Octopus HB 800S ... and use the needlewheel...or meshmod it with a single layer of mesh or something.... cut the some needles on the needlewheel...stuff like that if you get overflow problems.

[krowleey]

Originally posted by mfinn
In post #47 on the second page,

Quote:
Originally Posted by skimerwhisperer
as i mentioned, octopus does offer a similar skimmer now.
sadly, it's the most powerful hob out there, with the cnc marine version gone.
although, i dont think it's as good as the cnc version, it is the best power for your buck, at a price tag of $240

http://www.aquacave.com/octopus-hb-8...lvue-2346.html

im hoping that SWC will make this design of hob with a sicce pump, they offer it already with a otp pump:
http://www.aquacave.com/octopus-hb-8...lvue-2346.html

THEN LUKE33 SAID

CV stole the design from SWC except they put a sicce in the body. Only problem is the sicce pulls WAAAY to much air for a 2" neck. The dummies So if you buy it your going to get alot of overflows.

thanks man seems i read someone drilled a hole in to slow it down some, im not sure. would be nice to hear some reviews from people that have it. there has to be people with it, it just seems awesome. what would you thnk about the WM h-2? does it not fit on the rim of tanks? what kind of engineering is that? i don't understand it, if it's true.

[krowleey]

Originally posted by jman77
You could get the Octopus HB 800S ... and use the needlewheel...or meshmod it with a single layer of mesh or something.... cut the some needles on the needlewheel...stuff like that if you get overflow problems.

i'm very close to ordering it, but just have to be sure 100% first.

[BryanJ]

premium aquatics for the aqua medic turbo floater. they use an ocean runner 2700 with a needlewheel for a pump.

[cveverly]

There is a very simple cure to solve the "too much air" problem on the 800S. Add a valve to adjust the air going into the skimmer. I did this mod to mine before I added the recirculation holes. Same idea the Deltec 600 uses.

[krowleey]

Originally posted by cveverly
There is a very simple cure to solve the "too much air" problem on the 800S. Add a valve to adjust the air going into the skimmer. I did this mod to mine before I added the recirculation holes. Same idea the Deltec 600 uses.

what do you mean, could you explain a little more? and did your skimmer overflow before drilling holes in it? how large of holes? do you have pics? how is your skimmer performing now? any pics? thanks for the info..

[cveverly]

This is an old picture and before the mesh mod. There is a lot more foam in both chambers and the skimmer is VERY stable. I can run the air full open and no over foam problems. The skimmer did overflow when I first hooked it up. As it broke in it got better but was still touchy. I added a John Guest valve to the air line going to the pump. This restricted the air and ended overflow issues. After that I thought about using the holes between the chambers. Like mentioned above, air full open and no overfoam problems. The only down side is getting a little scum inside the first chamber. About once every couple weeks I wipe it out with a towel. This mod also eliminated all micro bubbles even with the meshed impeller. I used two layers of mesh with fishing line to hold it in place.

[krowleey]

thanks CV, man this sucks. im not crazy about having ot mod a skimmer to just keep it from over flowing. im pretty hesitant on purchasing this item now.

[cveverly]

Originally posted by krowleey
thanks CV, man this sucks. im not crazy about having ot mod a skimmer to just keep it from over flowing. im pretty hesitant on purchasing this item now.

If you add the John Guest valve to the air line it will be fine. It is a cheap easy and quick fix. They are available at most hardware stores and are a push on fitting. It takes about 15 seconds to install and adjust the skimmer. Then you are done until the skimmer breaks in. As it breaks in you can open the air up a little more. The extreme I went to is not necessary but it does improve the performance of the skimmer.

Honestly this is a great skimmer for the money. By adding the valve I would not be afraid of it at all. Without the valve it is way to sensitive, especially when it is new.

Another option is the Octo 300F. Tried and true skimmer that works well. Down side is the ReSun 225 pumps are known to have issues. However, I have a 100F with the ReSun 225 pump and never had a problem. The pumps are cheap if you wanted to buy a spare for insurance.

[otrlynn]

I'm in the same situation as krowleey and have been eagerly reading this thread. I am wondering whether any of the skimmers discussed above have a way to "re-route' the skimmate back into the skimmer or into the tank to prevent overflows.

[krowleey]

^

[BryanJ]

You won't need to mod the turbo floater works great out right of the box.

[otrlynn]

Unfortunately it looks to me like the pump for the Turbo Floater hangs inside the tank. Something the OP was trying to avoid (as am I...)

[cveverly]

Originally posted by otrlynn
I'm in the same situation as krowleey and have been eagerly reading this thread. I am wondering whether any of the skimmers discussed above have a way to "re-route' the skimmate back into the skimmer or into the tank to prevent overflows.

That was going to be my next mod if the bypass holes did not work. I was going to drill a hole in the collection cup and a hole in the cover for the first or last chamber. Then connect the two holes with a 1/4" pipe. If the cup overflowed it would go back into the skimmer body.

So in a nut shell, if you add the overflow tube and the John Guest valve you have a safe tunable skimmer. Add the recirculation holes and mesh impeller you have a skimmer that will give the Deltec MCE600 a run for its money. I have owned both skimmers so this is not an unsubstantiated point of view.

[krowleey]

very well said.