The 6 Million Dollar Tank (man) - Page 2

jefathome · 05/03/2010, 09:53 AM

Frist we did the window. We had to take off a bunch of siding and cut through the Sheer-Panel. At that point we realized that there must have been a window there a long time ago because there was already a header in there. That saved us some time which was nice because another issue came up... will get to that soon enough though.

The new window next to the newly finished fireplace (still needs grout and the mantle).

jefathome · 05/03/2010, 10:36 AM

As we were goiing in for the 2nd hole... the one where the tank will be located, we made a discovery.

We thought that our house only had regular siding with some sheer-panel under it. Well we went to cut through the sheer-panel on this side and there seemed to be something much harder underneath. Huh?

Turns out that some previous owner thought that siding was better looking than stucco, so they nailed some plywood on top of the stucco and then nailed the siding onto that. So our house walls go like this from outside to inside. Siding, paper barrier, plywood, stucco, chickenwire (lathe), more paper, studs, insulation and THEN the inside drywall.

That added a bit of time onto the project... Which made up for the header that was already in there on the other side.

lowbudget · 05/03/2010, 10:40 AM

at least you have a well insulated wall ahahahaha

jefathome · 05/03/2010, 10:41 AM

After we cut through and installed the header for the tank, I put up some temporary studs and then reinstalled the siding so that it looks like we were never even in there. This gives me some time to do other steps in the process without the wife getting on my case about the giant hole in the wall.

Speaking of these other projects.... next up is the Foam Rock WAll.

I have 7 cans of Touch n Foam on the way and some nice large rocks to work with.

I want to do sort of a plateau/shelf look with Pukani rock in the base.

jefathome · 05/03/2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowbudget

at least you have a well insulated wall ahahahaha

And maybe a little extra earthquake protection as well.

YellowThirteen · 05/03/2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefathome

I've started my re-stock already with these guys... Picked them up at MAX for $50 (for the pair, not each):

Hello! I'm new around these parts.. and building my first tank. I plan to stock it with those exact fish.. and hopefully have them pair and breed in a few years. I'm also getting a list of stores to hit up around SoCal, and online. So.. what, and where is MAX? ^^

Thank ya kindly!

jefathome · 05/04/2010, 09:06 AM

MAX was a marine/coral event that was held at the OC fairgrounds a few weeks ago. It only comes around once a year. There is also CFM (Coral Farmers Market) and Reef-a-palooza.

The booth I got them from at MAX was the one for Age of Aquariums in longbeach. They can probably get you what you want, but probably not at the same price. They buy a TON of fish just for this event and yours might be more of a one-off. If you can find them for $80 a pair ($40 each) that is probably a pretty good deal.

jefathome · 05/04/2010, 09:11 AM

I'm thinking that I'd like to try some gel filters on the tubes and I'd like some feedback.

This is a graph of the various options I have.... On the X axis is the wavelength in NM, on the y axis is the % tranmission.

I'm leaning towards either #60 (since it seems to peak in the 420-480 nm range) or 63.... thoughts?

I'll still have some actinic/blue T5's to supplement

jefathome · 05/05/2010, 09:33 AM

I started on the rock structure last night.

I really want this tank to look very natural and take advantage of the 30in height. Something with lots of depth and texture, but still with an open look to it. I want a small sandbed in the center/middle and a thin layer of rock around the perimiter.

Here are the raw materials... As you can see I built sort of a jig so that I can lean the structure on its back while I foam it so that my overhangs don't sag.
You also may notice the slabs of marble in there. These will be used to add extra weight (I tried this with the original setup of this tank and the rock I made floated.) This will also help give the bottom part of the rock some height so that when I add the sand into the center section it has some "walls" to keep it all in place.

This is going to be the right side of the tank.

jefathome · 05/05/2010, 01:24 PM

I'm really liking the way it is turning out.

shikhyung · 05/05/2010, 01:38 PM

What kind of foam that you use? Thanks.

jefathome · 05/05/2010, 01:43 PM

Touch n Foam for the main part. I also used some regular "Great Stuff" for the base since it will all be covered and protected from UV light.

Reef_Creation · 05/05/2010, 03:07 PM

Ive been wondering forever.... Why is this titled the "6 million dollar tank?"

Im loving the new clown pair you got by the way. =)

jefathome · 05/05/2010, 03:30 PM

Yeah, I didn't think that people got that reference to the 6 million dollar man.

It was a tank that busted on me and is being rebuilt from the ground up. Bigger system, better lighting, more flow...

LOL, I guess I'm a dork.

The clowns are happily swimming around in a 10g in my garage, right next to the frag tank that had an Ich outbreak and is not running w/o fish for about a month to cure.

Reef_Creation · 05/05/2010, 04:51 PM

Thats so unfortunate but I guess it just forced you to go bigger which is a good thing. lol.

Good luck with the build though. I hope it turns out just how you want it to. Ill be keeping an eye on this thread to see how it goes. You had a nice tank before the incident so I can only imagine whats to come.

jefathome · 05/06/2010, 10:30 AM

Well since no one knows what the heck this thread is about from the title I'm starting a new thread here:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5#post17062895

mikew012343 · 05/06/2010, 10:43 AM

WENT THRU SIMILAR LOST ALL FISH EXCEPT A MATED PAIR OF CLOWNS I LIKE TO THINK LOVE MADE THEM SURVIVE JUST STARTED OVER ONLY 5% CORALS SURVIVE ....gOOD LUCK CAN'T WAIT TO SEE

jefathome · 05/07/2010, 11:25 AM

What happened to your tank?

jefathome · 05/14/2010, 12:56 PM

in caes anyone is following here, I have made some progress that I have updated to my main thread:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1844592

05/03/2010, 09:53 AM	#26
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	Frist we did the window. We had to take off a bunch of siding and cut through the Sheer-Panel. At that point we realized that there must have been a window there a long time ago because there was already a header in there. That saved us some time which was nice because another issue came up... will get to that soon enough though. The new window next to the newly finished fireplace (still needs grout and the mantle). __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/03/2010, 10:36 AM	#27
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	As we were goiing in for the 2nd hole... the one where the tank will be located, we made a discovery. We thought that our house only had regular siding with some sheer-panel under it. Well we went to cut through the sheer-panel on this side and there seemed to be something much harder underneath. Huh? Turns out that some previous owner thought that siding was better looking than stucco, so they nailed some plywood on top of the stucco and then nailed the siding onto that. So our house walls go like this from outside to inside. Siding, paper barrier, plywood, stucco, chickenwire (lathe), more paper, studs, insulation and THEN the inside drywall. That added a bit of time onto the project... Which made up for the header that was already in there on the other side. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/03/2010, 10:41 AM	#29
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	After we cut through and installed the header for the tank, I put up some temporary studs and then reinstalled the siding so that it looks like we were never even in there. This gives me some time to do other steps in the process without the wife getting on my case about the giant hole in the wall. Speaking of these other projects.... next up is the Foam Rock WAll. I have 7 cans of Touch n Foam on the way and some nice large rocks to work with. I want to do sort of a plateau/shelf look with Pukani rock in the base. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/04/2010, 09:06 AM	#32
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	MAX was a marine/coral event that was held at the OC fairgrounds a few weeks ago. It only comes around once a year. There is also CFM (Coral Farmers Market) and Reef-a-palooza. The booth I got them from at MAX was the one for Age of Aquariums in longbeach. They can probably get you what you want, but probably not at the same price. They buy a TON of fish just for this event and yours might be more of a one-off. If you can find them for $80 a pair ($40 each) that is probably a pretty good deal. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/04/2010, 09:11 AM	#33
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	I'm thinking that I'd like to try some gel filters on the tubes and I'd like some feedback. This is a graph of the various options I have.... On the X axis is the wavelength in NM, on the y axis is the % tranmission. I'm leaning towards either #60 (since it seems to peak in the 420-480 nm range) or 63.... thoughts? I'll still have some actinic/blue T5's to supplement __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/03/2010, 10:40 AM	#28
lowbudget Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,258	at least you have a well insulated wall ahahahaha

05/05/2010, 09:33 AM	#34
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	I started on the rock structure last night. I really want this tank to look very natural and take advantage of the 30in height. Something with lots of depth and texture, but still with an open look to it. I want a small sandbed in the center/middle and a thin layer of rock around the perimiter. Here are the raw materials... As you can see I built sort of a jig so that I can lean the structure on its back while I foam it so that my overhangs don't sag. You also may notice the slabs of marble in there. These will be used to add extra weight (I tried this with the original setup of this tank and the rock I made floated.) This will also help give the bottom part of the rock some height so that when I add the sand into the center section it has some "walls" to keep it all in place. This is going to be the right side of the tank. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/05/2010, 01:24 PM	#35
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	I'm really liking the way it is turning out. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/05/2010, 01:38 PM	#36
shikhyung Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ca Posts: 1,310	What kind of foam that you use? Thanks.

05/05/2010, 01:43 PM	#37
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	Touch n Foam for the main part. I also used some regular "Great Stuff" for the base since it will all be covered and protected from UV light. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/05/2010, 03:07 PM	#38
Reef_Creation Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 109	Ive been wondering forever.... Why is this titled the "6 million dollar tank?" Im loving the new clown pair you got by the way. =) __________________ ~_-Justin-_~ Southern California Reef Keepers Member [60 Gallon 48" long mixed reef] Mainly in the search for azooxanthellae corals

05/05/2010, 03:30 PM	#39
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	Yeah, I didn't think that people got that reference to the 6 million dollar man. It was a tank that busted on me and is being rebuilt from the ground up. Bigger system, better lighting, more flow... LOL, I guess I'm a dork. The clowns are happily swimming around in a 10g in my garage, right next to the frag tank that had an Ich outbreak and is not running w/o fish for about a month to cure. __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/05/2010, 04:51 PM	#40
Reef_Creation Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 109	Thats so unfortunate but I guess it just forced you to go bigger which is a good thing. lol. Good luck with the build though. I hope it turns out just how you want it to. Ill be keeping an eye on this thread to see how it goes. You had a nice tank before the incident so I can only imagine whats to come. __________________ ~_-Justin-_~ Southern California Reef Keepers Member [60 Gallon 48" long mixed reef] Mainly in the search for azooxanthellae corals

05/06/2010, 10:30 AM	#41
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	Well since no one knows what the heck this thread is about from the title I'm starting a new thread here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5#post17062895 __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/06/2010, 10:43 AM	#42
mikew012343 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 69	WENT THRU SIMILAR LOST ALL FISH EXCEPT A MATED PAIR OF CLOWNS I LIKE TO THINK LOVE MADE THEM SURVIVE JUST STARTED OVER ONLY 5% CORALS SURVIVE ....gOOD LUCK CAN'T WAIT TO SEE

05/07/2010, 11:25 AM	#43
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	What happened to your tank? __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

05/14/2010, 12:56 PM	#44
jefathome Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Posts: 2,915	in caes anyone is following here, I have made some progress that I have updated to my main thread: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1844592 __________________ Without Geometry, life is pointless Current Tank Info: NEW 150g in-wall Solartube display; 60g 4x2ft frag tank; 3g work Pico.... all Reef tanks

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