Vertex Illumina LED Arrives - Page 2

Allmost · 07/08/2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDogFather

Here is a video of the built-in demo program:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo7LTgkbZ4

I wantTTTTTT lol haha

but damn, they cost the same as the rest of the setup lol

please let us know how the SPS are doing under it

looks amazingly nice.

solitude127 · 07/08/2010, 10:55 PM

How's the coverage from front to back with a 30" wide tank?

TheDogFather · 07/09/2010, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

How's the coverage from front to back with a 30" wide tank?

Logzor · 07/09/2010, 07:30 AM

That's crazy, such an unassuming light fixture. The pods look so narrow but it really lays light down in your aquarium, with a decent width too!

Nice work on the review - Based on the amount of posts popping up about new LED fixtures we're going to see a huge amount of competition and hopefully price drops.

TheDogFather · 07/09/2010, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logzor

That's crazy, such an unassuming light fixture. The pods look so narrow but it really lays light down in your aquarium, with a decent width too!

Nice work on the review - Based on the amount of posts popping up about new LED fixtures we're going to see a huge amount of competition and hopefully price drops.

Asian manufacturers are already leading the pack for reasonably priced LED fixtures but they are still very basic in functionality. The Orbitec patent is holding back market innovation is this area, at least in the USA.

I don't think you'll ever see a big price drop for the top-of-the-line (Aqua Illumination, Giesemann, Vertex etc) LED fixtures. The demand is simply not there to drive prices down where these fixtures will be over everyone's tank.

As an example, Giesemann MH fixtures have been around for a long time and prices have always been high.

Cheers!

-TDF

TheDogFather · 07/10/2010, 06:54 PM

Below is the non scientific Vertex Illumina SR 1200-200 PAR measurement taken with a Apogee Quantum Meter. My tank is 18" tall and the fixture is 6" above the surface.

White 100% - Blue 100% Royal Blue 100%

759 about 5mm below the surface

484 On left frag rack

392 At top right coral colony

242 Center of Red Monti

227 Center of Clam

185 Front Elegance Coral

214 Bottom right middel of tank

148 Bottom rear of tank

chris88 · 07/10/2010, 10:02 PM

great par numbers, but with all of that extra space why not have a slot for a t5 on each side of the fixture. Then you would have the best of both worlds.

solitude127 · 07/10/2010, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDogFather

Below is the non scientific Vertex Illumina SR 1200-200 PAR measurement taken with a Apogee Quantum Meter. My tank is 18" tall and the fixture is 6" above the surface.

White 100% - Blue 100% Royal Blue 100%

759 about 5mm below the surface

484 On left frag rack

392 At top right coral colony

242 Center of Red Monti

227 Center of Clam

185 Front Elegance Coral

214 Bottom right middel of tank

148 Bottom rear of tank

How did that compare to your old PM?

TheDogFather · 07/11/2010, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

How did that compare to your old PM?

It's pretty close. The PM at 10" off the water had a little higher numbers at the front and back of the tank but if I lower the Vertex to 3" above the surface it'll exceed the PM numbers...

TheDogFather · 07/11/2010, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris88

great par numbers, but with all of that extra space why not have a slot for a t5 on each side of the fixture. Then you would have the best of both worlds.

All the extra space is there to cool the fixture. Keeping the core diode temperature at or below 125C ensures that the LED diode meets manufacturers stated life span (50,000 hours at 3 Watts or 60,000 at 2.5 Watts).

solitude127 · 07/11/2010, 07:57 AM

Are the fans on the fixture loud?

TheDogFather · 07/11/2010, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

Are the fans on the fixture loud?

They are dead silent. The fixture uses SilenX fans
(http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-52-14z)

scholar · 07/11/2010, 09:27 AM

How have you made out with programing it the light for the cloud cover options and or storms>? Im right on the edge of making the purchase of this lamp but i have to tell you im seriously upset about haveing to spend how much more ontop of the light to just use the features they said that they can offer ....

larryfl1 · 07/11/2010, 09:30 AM

tdf

can you let us know how well the coverage is on the side?

if the fixture is short by 6" on each end of the tank will the spread cover it mostly? or will it be dark?

TheDogFather · 07/11/2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryfl1

tdf

can you let us know how well the coverage is on the side?

if the fixture is short by 6" on each end of the tank will the spread cover it mostly? or will it be dark?

I posted side view photos showing spread coverage in the thread already. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=28

TheDogFather · 07/11/2010, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scholar

How have you made out with programing it the light for the cloud cover options and or storms>? Im right on the edge of making the purchase of this lamp but i have to tell you im seriously upset about haveing to spend how much more ontop of the light to just use the features they said that they can offer ....

Those programming options are not available to me until the wireless V-Stick USB and LightStudio software ship later this summer. The Canadian Vertex distributor tells me that they will be included with all future Illumina shipments once released so you won't be paying extra if you wait.

Cheers!

-TDF

reeftec · 07/12/2010, 08:47 PM

Thanks for posting the info.
Your tank looks great. frankly I am blown away by those numbers.

solitude127 · 07/12/2010, 09:03 PM

With all the lights at 100%, what color does the tank have? 12k, 15k, 20k?

TheDogFather · 07/13/2010, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solitude127

With all the lights at 100%, what color does the tank have? 12k, 15k, 20k?

Between 13 and 15K I guess with all three at 100%

My settings are White 80% - Blue 100% and Royal Blue 100% so it looks closer to 20K.

RR37 · 07/13/2010, 08:02 AM

Have you seen any reaction from the coral. When I upgraded from a 250w MH to the Solaris i5 I put most of the SPS and LPS in my system into some level of light shock. Started the light up at some thing between 80-100% Burnt some SPS too. Second time around started out at 20% and added %10 a week.

TheDogFather · 07/13/2010, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RR37

Have you seen any reaction from the coral. When I upgraded from a 250w MH to the Solaris i5 I put most of the SPS and LPS in my system into some level of light shock. Started the light up at some thing between 80-100% Burnt some SPS too. Second time around started out at 20% and added %10 a week.

No, I have not observed any bleaching or stress in the week since the light has been up. The Illumina replaced an ATI PowerModule with 8x54 T5's so the PAR numbers are very close. I am running the Illumina at 80% White, 100% Blue and 100% Royal Blue to get a 20K look.

One thing I did observe is that the fish appear to be much happier since there is no abrupt on or off light shock anymore. It's really interesting to watch their daily routines during the sunrise / sunset periods.

I use to have a Solaris I4 on a smaller tank a few years back (gawd awful fixture) and the Illumina's dimming abilities are infinitely more subtle than the Solaris ever was.

Cheers!

-TDF

mistacheese · 07/13/2010, 08:28 AM

Nice Dog Father! Mine is going up tonight, I am so happy to see pics of one after waiting since March. Congrats on a sweet purchase.

TheDogFather · 07/13/2010, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistacheese

Nice Dog Father! Mine is going up tonight, I am so happy to see pics of one after waiting since March. Congrats on a sweet purchase.

Awesome! Did you get the 3 footer? Where did you get yours from?

Cheers!

-TDF

larryfl1 · 07/13/2010, 08:59 AM

hey guys...need your opinion...

i was thinking of an 8ft tank which would need 2 4ft fixtures...

the other option is shrink the tank to 7ft and go with a 6 ft fixture with some shortfall on the sides...

of course there is a substantial savings one vs the other...

whats the thoughts?

TheDogFather · 07/13/2010, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryfl1

hey guys...need your opinion...

i was thinking of an 8ft tank which would need 2 4ft fixtures...

the other option is shrink the tank to 7ft and go with a 6 ft fixture with some shortfall on the sides...

of course there is a substantial savings one vs the other...

whats the thoughts?

I'd go with a 7 foot tank and a 6 foot fixture and aqua-scape accordingly.

OR, just go with a 6 foot tank and 6 foot fixture and re-invest some of the savings in other high-end gear. A 6 foot tank is mighty big IMO.

Cheers!

07/08/2010, 10:55 PM	#27
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	How's the coverage from front to back with a 30" wide tank? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

07/10/2010, 06:54 PM	#31
TheDogFather Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 380	Below is the non scientific Vertex Illumina SR 1200-200 PAR measurement taken with a Apogee Quantum Meter. My tank is 18" tall and the fixture is 6" above the surface. White 100% - Blue 100% Royal Blue 100% 759 about 5mm below the surface 484 On left frag rack 392 At top right coral colony 242 Center of Red Monti 227 Center of Clam 185 Front Elegance Coral 214 Bottom right middel of tank 148 Bottom rear of tank __________________ 112G 48x30x18 Starphire Rimless / 40G Sump / 20G Fuge / Basement Sump Room / Bubble King Mini 180 / Vertex Illumina SR 1200 LED / 2 x Vortech MP40W ES / ReefKeeper Elite / LiterMeterIII / Auto Water Change Current Tank Info: 112G Shallow Rimless

07/11/2010, 07:57 AM	#36
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	Are the fans on the fixture loud? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

07/12/2010, 09:03 PM	#43
solitude127 Proud user of IO Salt! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 9,136	With all the lights at 100%, what color does the tank have? 12k, 15k, 20k? __________________ Mike <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ <)))>{ ReefKeeping.com TOTM Nov 2012 Socalireefs Featured Reef Oct 2011 Current Tank Info: 603020, 8x54 ATI Powermodule, ReefBrite XHO, ATB Elegance 200, Aquamaxx CTech CaRx, Ecotech Vortechs, Apex Controls, WM Ecobak powered. RedSea Reefer 170, MP10, Apex Jr, Ecotech Radion XR15, Aquamaxx WS-1

07/13/2010, 08:28 AM	#47
mistacheese Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 178	Nice Dog Father! Mine is going up tonight, I am so happy to see pics of one after waiting since March. Congrats on a sweet purchase. __________________ This message will self destruct in 30 seconds... Current Tank Info: 90 Gal drilled Starfire Display from Miracles / Vertex Illumina SR1200 / 70 Gal Sump / Vertex Illumina SR600 / Vertex Alpha 250 / Vertex CA Reactor RX4 / Vertex Biopellets / 2 Vertex UF20's / I Might need to rename it the "Vertex Project"...

07/09/2010, 07:30 AM	#29
Logzor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kenwood, Ohio Posts: 4,073	That's crazy, such an unassuming light fixture. The pods look so narrow but it really lays light down in your aquarium, with a decent width too! Nice work on the review - Based on the amount of posts popping up about new LED fixtures we're going to see a huge amount of competition and hopefully price drops.

07/10/2010, 10:02 PM	#32
chris88 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alberta (canada) Posts: 657	great par numbers, but with all of that extra space why not have a slot for a t5 on each side of the fixture. Then you would have the best of both worlds.

07/11/2010, 09:27 AM	#38
scholar Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Thorold Posts: 74	How have you made out with programing it the light for the cloud cover options and or storms>? Im right on the edge of making the purchase of this lamp but i have to tell you im seriously upset about haveing to spend how much more ontop of the light to just use the features they said that they can offer ....

07/11/2010, 09:30 AM	#39
larryfl1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 797	tdf can you let us know how well the coverage is on the side? if the fixture is short by 6" on each end of the tank will the spread cover it mostly? or will it be dark?

07/12/2010, 08:47 PM	#42
reeftec Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newport, CA Posts: 259	Thanks for posting the info. Your tank looks great. frankly I am blown away by those numbers.

07/13/2010, 08:02 AM	#45
RR37 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mississauga, Canada Posts: 53	Have you seen any reaction from the coral. When I upgraded from a 250w MH to the Solaris i5 I put most of the SPS and LPS in my system into some level of light shock. Started the light up at some thing between 80-100% Burnt some SPS too. Second time around started out at 20% and added %10 a week.

07/13/2010, 08:59 AM	#49
larryfl1 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 797	hey guys...need your opinion... i was thinking of an 8ft tank which would need 2 4ft fixtures... the other option is shrink the tank to 7ft and go with a 6 ft fixture with some shortfall on the sides... of course there is a substantial savings one vs the other... whats the thoughts?

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