Why damsels are among my favorite fish for a 100g tank... - Page 2

Angler7 · 02/25/2011, 07:42 PM

my LFS has a big fat blue velvet that is 15 years old! Beautiful fish. Anyway would a domino/3 stripe/yellowtail damsel work for this stocking list in my 150? None have been added yet i just started cycling.

Foxface Rabbitt
2-Ocellaris Clowns
Orchid Dottyback
Lawnmower Blenny
2-Flasher Wrasses
Blue Hippo Tang
Shrimp Goby
2-Bangai Cardinals

Sk8r · 02/26/2011, 07:58 AM

Should. You can expect the domino to be the largest, maybe 4". I've seen them the size of salad plates, either that or it was a look-alike angel. If you can't find a yellowtail, an azure would work (similar color) and not be too aggressive for that group. That'll be a pretty grouping.

myfrostymember · 02/26/2011, 07:04 PM

ok sk8r your dream setup would be?

what damsels together in a 100g cube?

will any one those damsels work with my current fish
mystery wrasse 3"
full grown female oc clown
yw goby

any good damsel combos?

Sk8r · 02/26/2011, 07:39 PM

I'd say a 3-stripe, an azure, a domino, about 3 chromis. That should keep things moving. The blue velvet would be pretty in there, but likely to create more mayhem than you'd like. YOu've thus got a yellow fish, an orange (the clown, I take it), a brilliant blue, two patterned black and whites, and an irridescent green or blue, depending on which chromis.

myfrostymember · 02/26/2011, 07:59 PM

blue reef chromis are labelled as peacefull- that true?- i like the dark blue better then the light blue but not a big deal

what about a kole tang my wife wants one of those he be to laid back for the damsels?

reading this off live aquaria what about a jewel or a blue sapphire?

Sk8r · 02/27/2011, 08:52 AM

If you can get a jewel, power to you. THey're hard to find. But they do get big: do read the 'adult size' notation, remember that most fish with capacity to get bigger really will do so fairly fast, and also very particularly note that some damsels change color significantly as they age. The jewel could become the largest and dominant in the tank, matching the kole, while others stay around 3 inches.
Kole will be great so long as he has room to swim. They're spooky and timid, but every tang can defend himself quite nicely: the damsels will be fine with him. Just for gosh sake quarantine everything! All these fish can come in with ich in their gills, and it can wipe out a tank before you halfway see what's going on. The blue reef chromis are fine, but again, pricier. Avoid the Fiji Blue Devil, I'd say: they're given to sniping---wait for a fish to swim into their territory and then chase. They rarely harm anything, but they're like a bad barking dog.

Take a look at the chromises, too: they're damsels, just lumped separately for marketing purposes. So far as I know, they aggress only against other chromises.

If you go after some of the less common damsels, you're going to have a spectacular mix. I've never had a jewel, and can't vouch for their behavior---but honestly, damsels, even the blue velvet, cannot match the temper and nastiness of a yellow dottyback or a Clarkii clownfish, so their rep for mayhem far exceeds their actual behavior. Mostly they're dither-fish, running hither and yon and often swimming in company.

myfrostymember · 02/27/2011, 10:20 AM

any damsels jumpers? and all the things you listed the only time you put more then 1 in a tank was the chromis-- is that becuase they tend to be less aggressive towards others or what>?

Sk8r · 02/27/2011, 10:43 AM

Never had one jump.
The chromis are the tamest of all, silly little dither-fish, that will often school in the presence of onrier damsels, BUT these sweet little fish will nightly eliminate the weakest of their school until they have a number that feels 'right' for the space, so don't go overboard with the number of them. They'll never aggress against anything else. Peculiar little guys. They make a nice active show in a tank, because they will group.

Also with multiple damsels---the less dominant of a school of the same kind are not as brightly colored. So if you have only one of a kind, you have mostly bright fish.

I'd add that tuxedo damsel they're advertising; stripes make a brilliant addition: it may be an alternate name for the three-stripe, though as I remember the three-stripe, it's shorter-bodied. And the dascyllus might be interesting. But I can't remember its adult size.

If you do have a persistent chase set up, stick a vertical rock up in your rockwork: spires for some reason tend to be 'boundaries' in these fishes' little minds and it helps stabilize things by providing a marker of territory.

myfrostymember · 02/27/2011, 11:08 AM

good info thanks for the help man

johnike · 02/27/2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by myfrostymember

good info thanks for the help ma'am

Indymann99 · 02/27/2011, 03:25 PM

Sk8r, so I have always been a big fan of Domino damsels.. back in 1985 I started my first SW tank with a Domino, and 2 yellow tails. Sorry to say but back then everybody cycled a tank with damsels. My domino survived and over a 5 year period lived with a Niger trigger, Lionfish, snowflake, many other aggressive fish. I really liked this little guy as he would click and grunt when defending his 1 little rock in the middle of the tank.

I can find super tiny ones at my LFS that look good.

I would like to add one of these super tiny dominos to my FOWLR, thoughts?

In the video link you cant see the False Perc hanging out behind the rock.
Yellow Tang
Hippo
False Perc
Skunk cleaner
4x Blue Green Chromis
Tank is a 48x24x24.
http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=SNC00194.mp4

Sk8r · 02/27/2011, 03:29 PM

I love dominos, too. I'd say go for it. Anybody have a pic of one? They're a very handsome damsel---they can get a bit large; but spirit and self-sufficiency, they are prime!

rwb500 · 02/27/2011, 10:58 PM

i've really been thinking about adding some damsels to my tank. its a 65g (36x18x24h) barebottom. Its a got lots of softies and some sps, and about 50 pounds of LR but still tons of open swimming space due to the height of the tank.

current fish:
~3" maroon clown
~2.5" midas blenny
3x 1.5" alleni damsel

Would a group of 3-6 yellowtail damsels go nicely in here? I realize that as they get larger 6 would be too many, but im moving in a year so i'll either be selling them or upgrading tanks.

rwb500 · 02/27/2011, 11:05 PM

one more question for sk8r, because you seem to be an expert:

would a group of 3-6 blue/green reef chromis be better for my tank? I think I would rather risk them beating up each other than them beating up my other fish. oh and I'll probably be adding a 6-line wrasse soon.

jcw · 02/27/2011, 11:36 PM

How do you qt a group of chromis?

I just purchased 3 sunshine chromis that will arrive hopefully Tuesday. If I put them all in the 20gal QT tank, will they start killing each other?

cjdevito · 02/28/2011, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

I love dominos, too. I'd say go for it. Anybody have a pic of one? They're a very handsome damsel---they can get a bit large; but spirit and self-sufficiency, they are prime!

When young dominos will associate with a number of species of anemones (most often carpets and pizza anemones). A very striking display I saw quite a number of years ago was a large but shallow square tank with several large pizza anemones and a number of juvenile dominos.

Mr.Maska · 02/28/2011, 05:09 AM

damsels are the devil when he wants to go for a swim.

Sk8r · 02/28/2011, 07:49 AM

Mr. Maska, obviously I totally disagree with you.

Re the 20 gallon and qt of sunshine chromis---there is one way to break up a 20 into territories. Put two barriers of eggcrate in if you spot any aggression. It'll cramp them considerably, and don't do it if they seem to be adjusting. One thing that might work instead is to put in not one but 3 pieces of pvc pipe, in opposite corners; in the blank wasteland of a qt tank, what a damsel will most want is a piece of territory to call their own, and they just may each claim one: at very least they may go to separate places at night, which is when most of the aggression happens, as one more tries to get into the shelter than will fit. I hope they ship them very small. They're a beautiful little fish, not commonly seen.

Indymann99 · 02/28/2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcw

How do you qt a group of chromis?

I just purchased 3 sunshine chromis that will arrive hopefully Tuesday. If I put them all in the 20gal QT tank, will they start killing each other?

My 20g QT with Blue Green Chromis.
6 went in and 4 came out after 6 weeks.

http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...=ChromisQT.mp4

Sk8r · 02/28/2011, 10:58 AM

I'm not surprised. It's a quandary, trying to qt damsels in a flock---could happen with any fish that wants a lot of territory: a 20 is just real close quarters. And I know the problem of shipping costs if you don't! But damsel mentality is locked to, as one contributor put it, defending their little rock. I've only bought them locally, singly, so I have no actual experience with them as you do---but knowing how their little minds work I have some hope that each having a 'territory', aka, pipe, might help define their space in a way that will keep them from quarreling.

jcw · 03/02/2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8r

Mr. Maska, obviously I totally disagree with you.

Re the 20 gallon and qt of sunshine chromis---there is one way to break up a 20 into territories. Put two barriers of eggcrate in if you spot any aggression. It'll cramp them considerably, and don't do it if they seem to be adjusting. One thing that might work instead is to put in not one but 3 pieces of pvc pipe, in opposite corners; in the blank wasteland of a qt tank, what a damsel will most want is a piece of territory to call their own, and they just may each claim one: at very least they may go to separate places at night, which is when most of the aggression happens, as one more tries to get into the shelter than will fit. I hope they ship them very small. They're a beautiful little fish, not commonly seen.

They are here and in a 30gallon cube I purchased from a very nice local guy getting out of the hobby. The "baby" female is a beautiful yellow and purple, the next one up has less intense colors and the dominant male is a bland looking shiny silver. The bullying started this afternoon.

Not to highjack this thread, so I'll continue it on my own.

Thanks for the advice.

davocean · 03/02/2011, 11:51 PM

Chromis are my favorite damsel, I always have them.
I had these guys for 6 years w/out any problems.

Angel*Fish · 03/03/2011, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davocean

Chromis are my favorite damsel, I always have them.
I had these guys for 6 years w/out any problems.

They're beautiful! What do you think your success is related to? I hear things like feeding 3x per day and strong or varying current.

Sk8r · 03/03/2011, 10:33 AM

Plus a 150 gallon tank! They behave beautifully when they have enough room!

davocean · 03/03/2011, 01:56 PM

Well, they started out in a 90g for the first couple/few years.
I lost them to a heater failure, or I'm sure I'd still have them.
The 5 I have now started in a 67g, and now in my 150g, about a year and a half now.
I buy them small, close to same size.
I've had three groups total, 6 for 6 years, and 5 for a year and a half twice(one group sold w/ system downsize)
I only recently started feeding heavy for my anthias, but before them, fed once a day, and often skipped a day.
I do nothing special, and have never had them pick each other off as so many claim.
I have no idea why some have luck, some don't.
There must be something we just haven't recognized yet.

02/25/2011, 07:42 PM	#26
Angler7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 132	my LFS has a big fat blue velvet that is 15 years old! Beautiful fish. Anyway would a domino/3 stripe/yellowtail damsel work for this stocking list in my 150? None have been added yet i just started cycling. Foxface Rabbitt 2-Ocellaris Clowns Orchid Dottyback Lawnmower Blenny 2-Flasher Wrasses Blue Hippo Tang Shrimp Goby 2-Bangai Cardinals __________________ 150 Gal. RR, 40 Gal. Sump, Eshopps PSK-150, 150 lbs. Live Rock, 125 Lbs. Live Sand, 2) 250w Aquamax 14k MH, 2) 250w Icecap Ballast, 2) Lumenarc Mini Reflectors, 2) Koralia 4's Livestock: Percula Clown, One Spot Foxface Corals: Kenya Tree, GSP, Clove Polyps, Candy Cane, R&G Mushrooms, Toadstool, Leathers

02/26/2011, 07:58 AM	#27
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Should. You can expect the domino to be the largest, maybe 4". I've seen them the size of salad plates, either that or it was a look-alike angel. If you can't find a yellowtail, an azure would work (similar color) and not be too aggressive for that group. That'll be a pretty grouping. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/26/2011, 07:39 PM	#29
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I'd say a 3-stripe, an azure, a domino, about 3 chromis. That should keep things moving. The blue velvet would be pretty in there, but likely to create more mayhem than you'd like. YOu've thus got a yellow fish, an orange (the clown, I take it), a brilliant blue, two patterned black and whites, and an irridescent green or blue, depending on which chromis. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/27/2011, 08:52 AM	#31
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	If you can get a jewel, power to you. THey're hard to find. But they do get big: do read the 'adult size' notation, remember that most fish with capacity to get bigger really will do so fairly fast, and also very particularly note that some damsels change color significantly as they age. The jewel could become the largest and dominant in the tank, matching the kole, while others stay around 3 inches. Kole will be great so long as he has room to swim. They're spooky and timid, but every tang can defend himself quite nicely: the damsels will be fine with him. Just for gosh sake quarantine everything! All these fish can come in with ich in their gills, and it can wipe out a tank before you halfway see what's going on. The blue reef chromis are fine, but again, pricier. Avoid the Fiji Blue Devil, I'd say: they're given to sniping---wait for a fish to swim into their territory and then chase. They rarely harm anything, but they're like a bad barking dog. Take a look at the chromises, too: they're damsels, just lumped separately for marketing purposes. So far as I know, they aggress only against other chromises. If you go after some of the less common damsels, you're going to have a spectacular mix. I've never had a jewel, and can't vouch for their behavior---but honestly, damsels, even the blue velvet, cannot match the temper and nastiness of a yellow dottyback or a Clarkii clownfish, so their rep for mayhem far exceeds their actual behavior. Mostly they're dither-fish, running hither and yon and often swimming in company. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%. Last edited by Sk8r; 02/27/2011 at 09:03 AM.

02/27/2011, 10:43 AM	#33
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Never had one jump. The chromis are the tamest of all, silly little dither-fish, that will often school in the presence of onrier damsels, BUT these sweet little fish will nightly eliminate the weakest of their school until they have a number that feels 'right' for the space, so don't go overboard with the number of them. They'll never aggress against anything else. Peculiar little guys. They make a nice active show in a tank, because they will group. Also with multiple damsels---the less dominant of a school of the same kind are not as brightly colored. So if you have only one of a kind, you have mostly bright fish. I'd add that tuxedo damsel they're advertising; stripes make a brilliant addition: it may be an alternate name for the three-stripe, though as I remember the three-stripe, it's shorter-bodied. And the dascyllus might be interesting. But I can't remember its adult size. If you do have a persistent chase set up, stick a vertical rock up in your rockwork: spires for some reason tend to be 'boundaries' in these fishes' little minds and it helps stabilize things by providing a marker of territory. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/26/2011, 07:04 PM	#28
myfrostymember Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	ok sk8r your dream setup would be? what damsels together in a 100g cube? will any one those damsels work with my current fish mystery wrasse 3" full grown female oc clown yw goby any good damsel combos?

02/26/2011, 07:59 PM	#30
myfrostymember Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	blue reef chromis are labelled as peacefull- that true?- i like the dark blue better then the light blue but not a big deal what about a kole tang my wife wants one of those he be to laid back for the damsels? reading this off live aquaria what about a jewel or a blue sapphire?

02/27/2011, 10:20 AM	#32
myfrostymember Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	any damsels jumpers? and all the things you listed the only time you put more then 1 in a tank was the chromis-- is that becuase they tend to be less aggressive towards others or what>?

02/27/2011, 11:08 AM	#34
myfrostymember Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 503	good info thanks for the help man

02/27/2011, 03:25 PM	#36
Indymann99 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,447	Sk8r, so I have always been a big fan of Domino damsels.. back in 1985 I started my first SW tank with a Domino, and 2 yellow tails. Sorry to say but back then everybody cycled a tank with damsels. My domino survived and over a 5 year period lived with a Niger trigger, Lionfish, snowflake, many other aggressive fish. I really liked this little guy as he would click and grunt when defending his 1 little rock in the middle of the tank. I can find super tiny ones at my LFS that look good. I would like to add one of these super tiny dominos to my FOWLR, thoughts? In the video link you cant see the False Perc hanging out behind the rock. Yellow Tang Hippo False Perc Skunk cleaner 4x Blue Green Chromis Tank is a 48x24x24. http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/n...t=SNC00194.mp4 __________________ 120g DT 100lbs LR / 200 lbs LS, 45g fuge, VectraM1 Return, Herbie drain, 4x RW-8, 2x AI Hydra 26 w AWM, ASM G2, Apex controller, Apex BoB w floats ATO

02/27/2011, 03:29 PM	#37
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I love dominos, too. I'd say go for it. Anybody have a pic of one? They're a very handsome damsel---they can get a bit large; but spirit and self-sufficiency, they are prime! __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

02/27/2011, 10:58 PM	#38
rwb500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,694	i've really been thinking about adding some damsels to my tank. its a 65g (36x18x24h) barebottom. Its a got lots of softies and some sps, and about 50 pounds of LR but still tons of open swimming space due to the height of the tank. current fish: ~3" maroon clown ~2.5" midas blenny 3x 1.5" alleni damsel Would a group of 3-6 yellowtail damsels go nicely in here? I realize that as they get larger 6 would be too many, but im moving in a year so i'll either be selling them or upgrading tanks.

02/27/2011, 11:05 PM	#39
rwb500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,694	one more question for sk8r, because you seem to be an expert: would a group of 3-6 blue/green reef chromis be better for my tank? I think I would rather risk them beating up each other than them beating up my other fish. oh and I'll probably be adding a 6-line wrasse soon.

02/27/2011, 11:36 PM	#40
jcw Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: elmhurst, il Posts: 1,778	How do you qt a group of chromis? I just purchased 3 sunshine chromis that will arrive hopefully Tuesday. If I put them all in the 20gal QT tank, will they start killing each other? __________________ I don't think Coral can live very long under Sun light. It's too yellow. ...get yourself some LED's. -eznet2u Current Tank Info: 125g DT, custom 30g sump, ATB elegance, eheim 1260, mp40 (too many failed wetsides), gyre 150 (love it)

02/28/2011, 05:09 AM	#42
Mr.Maska Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield,Mass Posts: 317	damsels are the devil when he wants to go for a swim. __________________ Look at the beautiful creatures in your tanks in amazement, now look to the sovereign God who created them. Current Tank Info: 210 gallon 72x25x30, hamilton belize sun fixture 3x400 watt mh, 2 t5's 80watts.reefbrite all blue48" supplement light, octo extreme250 skimmer, 80 gal sump/40gal refug 40 gal bow front hospital tank

02/28/2011, 07:49 AM	#43
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Mr. Maska, obviously I totally disagree with you. Re the 20 gallon and qt of sunshine chromis---there is one way to break up a 20 into territories. Put two barriers of eggcrate in if you spot any aggression. It'll cramp them considerably, and don't do it if they seem to be adjusting. One thing that might work instead is to put in not one but 3 pieces of pvc pipe, in opposite corners; in the blank wasteland of a qt tank, what a damsel will most want is a piece of territory to call their own, and they just may each claim one: at very least they may go to separate places at night, which is when most of the aggression happens, as one more tries to get into the shelter than will fit. I hope they ship them very small. They're a beautiful little fish, not commonly seen. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%. Last edited by Sk8r; 02/28/2011 at 07:54 AM.

02/28/2011, 10:58 AM	#45
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	I'm not surprised. It's a quandary, trying to qt damsels in a flock---could happen with any fish that wants a lot of territory: a 20 is just real close quarters. And I know the problem of shipping costs if you don't! But damsel mentality is locked to, as one contributor put it, defending their little rock. I've only bought them locally, singly, so I have no actual experience with them as you do---but knowing how their little minds work I have some hope that each having a 'territory', aka, pipe, might help define their space in a way that will keep them from quarreling. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/02/2011, 11:51 PM	#47
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	Chromis are my favorite damsel, I always have them. I had these guys for 6 years w/out any problems. __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

03/03/2011, 10:33 AM	#49
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Plus a 150 gallon tank! They behave beautifully when they have enough room! __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

03/03/2011, 01:56 PM	#50
davocean Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,655	Well, they started out in a 90g for the first couple/few years. I lost them to a heater failure, or I'm sure I'd still have them. The 5 I have now started in a 67g, and now in my 150g, about a year and a half now. I buy them small, close to same size. I've had three groups total, 6 for 6 years, and 5 for a year and a half twice(one group sold w/ system downsize) I only recently started feeding heavy for my anthias, but before them, fed once a day, and often skipped a day. I do nothing special, and have never had them pick each other off as so many claim. I have no idea why some have luck, some don't. There must be something we just haven't recognized yet. __________________ There's a fine line between owning your tank and your tank owning you! Current Tank Info: SCA 120g RR Starfire, Tunze silence 1073.02 return, 40g sump w/ fuge, SWC Extreme 160 cone skimmer,Geismann reflexx 4xT5, 2x Panorama Pro LED strips, Vortech MP40QD

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