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Unread 09/08/2011, 11:29 AM   #26
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Honestly, they could probably head off a lot of criticism with slight variants of the "don't try this at home" disclaimer.

"The show focuses on setting up some awesome custom aquariums, but there's a lot of other little things that go into keeping a tank healthy and happy that we don't show on TV. If you're going to set up your own tank at home, find a local aquarium club or pick up a good book at the library to help make your journey a long and happy one for both you and your fish."

15 seconds before or after a commercial break, then back to the stuff with higher entertainment value.

Agreed. The people that want to do this kind of stuff are going to kill a lot of innocent animals.

I hope for the producers sake that this show TANKS once people realize they are being dishonest to the public about general aquarium knowledge


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Unread 09/08/2011, 11:44 AM   #27
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Watched one episode, scanned the rest. Won't watch anymore. One thing I noticed is that none of the aquarium industry companies support this show with sponsorship or ads. If you've watched, have they or did i miss any of them?


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Unread 09/08/2011, 12:18 PM   #28
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I hope for the producers sake that this show TANKS once people realize they are being dishonest to the public about general aquarium knowledge
They aren't being dishonest, because quite honestly they aren't claiming (or trying) to put any general aquarium knowledge forward.

The problem is people who THINK the show is presenting that knowledge, and taking it as the truth.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 12:26 PM   #29
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And honestly if they are being dishonest to their customers, it because these customers are being told what they want to hear. If you really pay attention to their customer base, its high rolling, demanding, cash doesnt end kind of people. These kinds of customers will expect to get what they want no matter what. And telling them no isnt an option if you want the business. I am in no way defending their company, but from a business stand point, they are trying to make money. If they were told 'no you cant do that' that business would never have made it past one year.

Am I saying I would do that in their position? Hell no. I would put more responsibility into it. They arent just things. They are living creatures


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Unread 09/08/2011, 12:30 PM   #30
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I watched (an) episode of the show because I don't have time to watch Tv often. I thought it was entertaining. I felt like I was watching PawnStars. The fact is the producers focus on the tanks and the people buying the tanks more than what goes into the tank. This isnt that misleading considering the name of the show is "Tanked." Im sure that gearheads talk just the same about car/cycle shows as we do about this show. We're more into the hobby than the average channel flipper, so it's natural that we would critique it more.
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Unread 09/08/2011, 12:38 PM   #31
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They aren't being dishonest, because quite honestly they aren't claiming (or trying) to put any general aquarium knowledge forward.

The problem is people who THINK the show is presenting that knowledge, and taking it as the truth.
Most non hobbyists and potential new hobbyists won't know the difference from proper care and what is shown in this show. That's the rub.

The dishonesty comes from the portrayal of how this company sets up an aquarium for their customers and touts it's self as "professional tank builders" without the "responsible" explanation, shown or explained, of what it really takes to properly set up and maintain a captive marine environment. (More than a 5 second blurp, which they've done.)


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Unread 09/08/2011, 01:06 PM   #32
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I think it would be a more interesting show if they kept on point and refrained from stupid antics like giving out fake winning lottery tickets.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 01:08 PM   #33
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I think it would be a more interesting show if they kept on point and refrained from stupid antics like giving out fake winning lottery tickets.
Well the general population of america finds that as entertainment. Hence Jersey Shore....Im not even gonna go there


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Unread 09/08/2011, 02:08 PM   #34
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I think you guys are being hard are them. obviously they do good and make good tanks considering they are the number one tank builders in the world. They need to make money to stay a float they can't cycle every single tank that goes out the doors. That would take them forever just to get one paycheck. Im frankly jealous of their jobs. Im sure all of you are too. So stop hating on them.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 02:27 PM   #35
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I think you guys are being hard are them. obviously they do good and make good tanks considering they are the number one tank builders in the world. They need to make money to stay a float they can't cycle every single tank that goes out the doors. That would take them forever just to get one paycheck. Im frankly jealous of their jobs. Im sure all of you are too. So stop hating on them.
Its not hating, son. Its about responsiblity. And with the kind of thinking of they cant cycle every tank, then a construction worker should think, I cant make every house level. A cook, I cant make even dinner cooked properly. A cable guy, I cant get everyones tv working properly.

Is that how you would like the world to work?

Secondly, I could care less about them or the company. Its about actual life. Its about these animal depend on us to house them properly, give them a suitable home. Why? Cause we put them there. The people that are their customers, I can guarantee you, they dont. They have money and it would be no big deal for those customers to just go..."Oh give me another one, if it dies, Ill get another"

And honestly, yes you could cycle every tank you set up. They just dont take the time, nor tell the customers that cause that is not something a customer will take when they want "now"


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Unread 09/08/2011, 03:31 PM   #36
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The owners are clowns, but I would love to have one of their tanks........."Just set it there fellas, and then GET OUT!"


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Unread 09/08/2011, 04:04 PM   #37
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I thought the fake lotto ticket was great as well as the hot sauce bit. I laughed pretty hard...


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Unread 09/08/2011, 04:31 PM   #38
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The owners are clowns, but I would love to have one of their tanks........."Just set it there fellas, and then GET OUT!"
no **** ..


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Unread 09/08/2011, 04:42 PM   #39
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+ ive never seen any skimmer ,lighting ,sump, accrylic ,LIVE ROCK, info ,marketing comercials nothin.......and a few people at work see it and had the ignorance to tell me all i do is for waste .Because on "TV" they doit with a hot water heater in a day .......huh.But it is what it is ,another OCC but i wish they were a little more informative . The tanks are smokin' though !2" acrylllic ...id love to have one $$$$$$$$$$$


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Unread 09/08/2011, 04:52 PM   #40
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Omg that is alot of fish in that little bit of space. Then down size is these people that are their customers say 'I want this.' And they seem like the customers with alot of money and if someone says no, they will just go elsewhere. The value of the life isnt concerned with these customers.
those fish have been dead for over a year now


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Unread 09/08/2011, 05:03 PM   #41
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I find the show entertaining (not educational). Its like all the other semi reality shows out there. They show you some real stuff and the rest is a set up. Like the circle ray tank episode. They make a huge tank put a couple small rays in that hide and then they act like its a major problem because it looks lifeless. They call the shop and all of a sudden they are unloading dozens and dozens of fish for the display. I am sure every fish was picked ahead of time for that tank. The best part of the show is seeing some nice tanks that I will never be able to own. They have never shown the system aspect of these tanks so its hard to say what they have going on, but thats not the point of the show. We (reefers) are not the target audience. They are trying to entertain not educate.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 05:05 PM   #42
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Here is the link. How many fish you think are in there?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHfVV7wItA
hahahaha see all the people DEFENDING them in the comments? People are so clueless. I don't care what they do behind the camera, that is way too many fish for that tank, and that's that.
And they obviously didn't make it for the animals' convenience...I know a lot of those fish would rather be swimming side to side, rather than up and down...


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Unread 09/08/2011, 05:26 PM   #43
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Its not hating, son. Its about responsiblity. And with the kind of thinking of they cant cycle every tank, then a construction worker should think, I cant make every house level. A cook, I cant make even dinner cooked properly. A cable guy, I cant get everyones tv working properly.

Is that how you would like the world to work?

Secondly, I could care less about them or the company. Its about actual life. Its about these animal depend on us to house them properly, give them a suitable home. Why? Cause we put them there. The people that are their customers, I can guarantee you, they dont. They have money and it would be no big deal for those customers to just go..."Oh give me another one, if it dies, Ill get another"

And honestly, yes you could cycle every tank you set up. They just dont take the time, nor tell the customers that cause that is not something a customer will take when they want "now"
Its a business. Don't lecture me on how to do jobs right. I've owned my own cabinet shop for 33 years. To them its a business. If they all the fish died after they put a tank in wouldn't that hurt their reputation? Im sure the fish do fine. So stop judging by what you just see in the show. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We don't know what they tell their clients and what they don't so don't make the assumption they don't tell them anything and just leave.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 05:30 PM   #44
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Its not hating, son. Its about responsiblity. And with the kind of thinking of they cant cycle every tank, then a construction worker should think, I cant make every house level. A cook, I cant make even dinner cooked properly. A cable guy, I cant get everyones tv working properly.

Is that how you would like the world to work?

Secondly, I could care less about them or the company. Its about actual life. Its about these animal depend on us to house them properly, give them a suitable home. Why? Cause we put them there. The people that are their customers, I can guarantee you, they dont. They have money and it would be no big deal for those customers to just go..."Oh give me another one, if it dies, Ill get another"

And honestly, yes you could cycle every tank you set up. They just dont take the time, nor tell the customers that cause that is not something a customer will take when they want "now"
I agree with you 100%


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Unread 09/08/2011, 05:59 PM   #45
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Its a business. Don't lecture me on how to do jobs right. I've owned my own cabinet shop for 33 years. To them its a business. If they all the fish died after they put a tank in wouldn't that hurt their reputation? Im sure the fish do fine. So stop judging by what you just see in the show. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. We don't know what they tell their clients and what they don't so don't make the assumption they don't tell them anything and just leave.
Ok Mr cabinet guy. Your missing the point totally. If you go to a customers home and they say they want this and its either not going to work or for the price or not available. This high dollar customer is going to walk away and call someone else. Yes it is a business. But a business that has to do with lives has to be taken with more care. You gonna go buy a dog you know came from an inbreed puppy mill? Probably not. And fact is most business as long as they get their money and can caress the customer into feeling ok then it wont harm their reputation. Dont even come at me like that. Ive dealt with worse customers then you can ever dream of.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 06:09 PM   #46
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I think you guys are being hard are them. obviously they do good and make good tanks considering they are the number one tank builders in the world. They need to make money to stay a float they can't cycle every single tank that goes out the doors. That would take them forever just to get one paycheck. Im frankly jealous of their jobs. Im sure all of you are too. So stop hating on them.
PLEASE... my goodness... your right about one thing and that is it, they are tank builders, not proper system and healthy enviroment builders... they are completely irresponsible and misleading, directors as well as the guys on the show... and the show is a bunch of crap... a complete disgrace to all of us responsible and care taking hobbyists...

this show makes we wana slap a fool, and puke...


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Unread 09/08/2011, 06:16 PM   #47
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I did like the show. It was entertaining. You guys are quick to judge and missing a point. Business with high rollers - Very reliable wholesaler, healthy acclimitized fish, large canister filters, live sand, ozone, strong UV, enormous skimmers, fast cycling bacteria, lower salinity... Why fish should die??


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Unread 09/08/2011, 06:18 PM   #48
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This show doesn't teach you how to set up a SW tank any more than American Chopper teaches you how to build a motorcycle.

FWIW, if I were a non-reef oriented TV producer and I had to build a TV show around tanks with the proper amount of fish in them I'd start looking for a new job.


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Unread 09/08/2011, 06:22 PM   #49
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You guys are quick to judge and missing a point.
I think you are missing the point of this hobby. This hobby is for us to keep fish healthyand happy in our home systems. What if those where puppies? What if someone had tons of puppies crammed into a small space. I believe that is called a puppy mill? Sure, they are alive, but they aren't healthy and happy. People would hate the show if those poor fish where cats or dogs in similar conditions.
It's not right. And all those tanks with tons of huge fish crammed into small tanks we see on RC ( where people post their tanks, or someone on youtube has it ), the show Tanked is encouraging them.


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There is a show like that its called animal cop. Where are the tang police about that phone booth tank?!


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