About me and my tank

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by Lionfish666

Hey fish, your tank looks great! I think your getting the raw end of the deal on that swap though, not sure about in the US but here rose bubbles are just about the most expensive corals there are, going for about 150 on forums to $250-$300 in shops.
Here the prices (forum) would be Hammer $40, frags 15 each, blatos $40.
Can't you sell the anenomies then just buy exactly the corals you want?

I wouldn't expect anemones to cost that much in Australia considering that where a lot come from or at least countries that are closer to Australia than us. Here on a local forum most of the rose bubble anemones are going for $30 for the size I have which isn't all that big. Online they are around 120 online the blatos is 160 for half the heads that I'm getting.

[fish clown]

Just finalized a deal on two banggais so they will be gone tomarrow. I'll order the new fish this Tuesday and get them on Wednesday. I'll post pics

[biocube14g]

its good to see some younger reefers out there.....im 15 years old and have been in the hobby for 4 months! im subbing to the thread (:

[68551]

I agree with the above posters....I am 60 & I still find it hard to be patient....A new tank can crash quickly & you will be devastated to loose all of the life in your tank due to impatience....Don't worry, you can get what you want just not all at once...The bio load is unfortunately something you can't see....The bacteria in the tank multiply to compensate for new additions but it can only multiply so fast....With a new tank it is much slower than an established one....Testing will tell you what your tank is like now....You will feel very sad if you see bad test results & know you moved too fast. Read the post from the noob that was ready to give up because she had so many deaths all at once from adding livestock too quickly. There is no reason we would want to keep you from your passion...(it is ours too!!!)....Part of the reason for being in this hobby is a respect and awe of the fragile life that lives in the ocean....You have a little piece of paradise in your house....Do things to make the inhabitants happy instead of yourself....If they are happy you will be proud & feel a wonderful sense of accomplishment.....Many of the people on this forum have had reef tanks longer than you have been alive. Listen to them & don't try to reinvent the wheel by making the same mistakes that others have made before you....You are enthusiastic, which is great, you are off to a good start, nothing will encourage you as much as success. Nothing will depresss you as much as failure....You control your destiny!!! Best wishes, Sue

[68551]

Sorry about the double post....See how impatient I am??
Here is the link I was talking about...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2244047

[Lionfish666]

Yeah well they do cost that much here and it sucks. Post me on in the mail?
It odd the price difference between the countries. Your rics are like $20, ours are 150 and up.
Good luck with the tank

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by biocube14g

its good to see some younger reefers out there.....im 15 years old and have been in the hobby for 4 months! im subbing to the thread (:

That's cool, I was thinking that I was pretty much the only reefer under 18. Haha.

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by 68551

I agree with the above posters....I am 60 & I still find it hard to be patient....A new tank can crash quickly & you will be devastated to loose all of the life in your tank due to impatience....Don't worry, you can get what you want just not all at once...The bio load is unfortunately something you can't see....The bacteria in the tank multiply to compensate for new additions but it can only multiply so fast....With a new tank it is much slower than an established one....Testing will tell you what your tank is like now....You will feel very sad if you see bad test results & know you moved too fast. Read the post from the noob that was ready to give up because she had so many deaths all at once from adding livestock too quickly. There is no reason we would want to keep you from your passion...(it is ours too!!!)....Part of the reason for being in this hobby is a respect and awe of the fragile life that lives in the ocean....You have a little piece of paradise in your house....Do things to make the inhabitants happy instead of yourself....If they are happy you will be proud & feel a wonderful sense of accomplishment.....Many of the people on this forum have had reef tanks longer than you have been alive. Listen to them & don't try to reinvent the wheel by making the same mistakes that others have made before you....You are enthusiastic, which is great, you are off to a good start, nothing will encourage you as much as success. Nothing will depresss you as much as failure....You control your destiny!!! Best wishes, Sue

Two weeks ago I added 7 fish so according to what above says it sounds like my tank should have crashed and since it didn't most Likely the bacteria went through, ready, something I learned in biology, exponential growth meaning the bacteria reproduce very rapidly because of unlimited food. Actually one fire fish died because it was attacked by the other one and I'm not planning on adding another one. Also I am selling the two banggais so couldn't my bio load bacteria have excess bacteria and "be ready" for the new fish?

[jimmy n]

Why get rid of the 150 w halides?

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by 68551

Sorry about the double post....See how impatient I am??
Here is the link I was talking about...

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2244047

I looked over this thread and it seemed adding fish wasn't the only problem, for example he had two tangs, both of which requires a larger tank, especially the blue tang. I looked at one of his pictures and it looked like small rocks instead of live sand and the rock didn't look like live rock. Later he said he only tested ammonia so who know what his other levels were. He said the blue tang previously had ich which could have spread through the tank. I'm not trying to be stubborn, I'm just trying to look at both sides of the story.

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by jimmy n

Why get rid of the 150 w halides?

I actually love these lights and they provide amazing color but paying up to 220 in lights a year is a lot and being 14 I'd like to save as much as I can. Here is the thread that really won me to LEDs and this specific kind.http://www.3reef.com/forums/led-aqua...-134342-2.html

[68551]

Obivously your tank was ready for 7 small fish....Do you really want to push the envelope & add 4 more & wait & see if the bacteria can catch up??? Look...You ASKED for advice. None of us has anything to gain or loose by your tank being pushed to the limit....You may be ok, but what if you are not??? Do you really want to gamble with the lives of fish that have no options? I do everything I can to preserve life not kill it & just say oh well, I will just buy more fish if they die....It doesn't take much amonia in a tank to start killing fish....If you are very careful about skimming & husbandry AFTER your tank is mature you may be able to push the envelope....Your tank isn't even a year old!!! It is not mature yet....You are getting good advice & choosing to ignore it, why do you think you know more than people who have been in this hobby for over 15-20 years? A wise man learns from others mistakes....Get the 4 fish you want but do it S~L~O~W~L~Y......Your sucesses so far are encouraging you to think you can beat the system. The thread I pasted was not put there for you to point out the differences between your situation & theirs it was put there for you to see the similarities. Adding too many fish too soon (regardless of what kind they are) is going to be a problem sooner or later....The fish you got with the first 7 created a very small bioload on the system. Bacteria was built up in the sand & the rock to support them, no problem....But now especially with a tang...???? If you insist on getting more fish get the 3 without the tang....See if your parameters are ok for 2 weeks or so then add the tang....You have made a good choice of a tang that can be in a smaller system but at least hold out on him.....

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by 68551

Obivously your tank was ready for 7 small fish....Do you really want to push the envelope & add 4 more & wait & see if the bacteria can catch up??? Look...You ASKED for advice. None of us has anything to gain or loose by your tank being pushed to the limit....You may be ok, but what if you are not??? Do you really want to gamble with the lives of fish that have no options? I do everything I can to preserve life not kill it & just say oh well, I will just buy more fish if they die....It doesn't take much amonia in a tank to start killing fish....If you are very careful about skimming & husbandry AFTER your tank is mature you may be able to push the envelope....Your tank isn't even a year old!!! It is not mature yet....You are getting good advice & choosing to ignore it, why do you think you know more than people who have been in this hobby for over 15-20 years? A wise man learns from others mistakes....Get the 4 fish you want but do it S~L~O~W~L~Y......Your sucesses so far are encouraging you to think you can beat the system. The thread I pasted was not put there for you to point out the differences between your situation & theirs it was put there for you to see the similarities. Adding too many fish too soon (regardless of what kind they are) is going to be a problem sooner or later....The fish you got with the first 7 created a very small bioload on the system. Bacteria was built up in the sand & the rock to support them, no problem....But now especially with a tang...???? If you insist on getting more fish get the 3 without the tang....See if your parameters are ok for 2 weeks or so then add the tang....You have made a good choice of a tang that can be in a smaller system but at least hold out on him.....

As much as I hate to say it, I think your right. It's so hard to wait for this kind of thing. I will hold out on the tang and other clownfish and only get the flame angel, royal gramma, Randall goby and the CUC. I have heard tangs use a lot of bio load.

[68551]

you are wise beyond your years!!!! You are going to be very good at this hobby!!!

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by 68551

you are wise beyond your years!!!! You are going to be very good at this hobby!!!

Well thanks for keep going for me. Well I did the trade today so here are my new corals







The blastos are not quite open all the way but ill post pics when they are.

[jasonrstewart79]

Patience is the key to this hobby. Never rushing, always allowing the tank as a whole to adjust to every minute change that you do to it. Think of your tank as a full living system.

[68551]

Now corals can be as addictive as fish!!! You can get them at any rate you want (til you run out of space or money!!)...Many can't touch each other or have long stinging tentacles that come out at night can "touch" (and sting) even if they aren't touching during the day....The corals look great!!! Best of luck with them!!!!

[biocube14g]

Originally Posted by fish clown

That's cool, I was thinking that I was pretty much the only reefer under 18. Haha.

yeah, i was thinking the same thing!

[biocube14g]

in my opinion, large cardinal have a huge! bioload. i was thinking of getting rid of my spotted just for that reason.

[fish clown]

Here's a better pic of the blastos

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by 68551

Now corals can be as addictive as fish!!! You can get them at any rate you want (til you run out of space or money!!)...Many can't touch each other or have long stinging tentacles that come out at night can "touch" (and sting) even if they aren't touching during the day....The corals look great!!! Best of luck with them!!!!

Yes corals can be afflicting, I'm going to try to only trade for coral so I don't have to pay for them. I'll look up the corals and see which ones need to be moved if any.

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by biocube14g

in my opinion, large cardinal have a huge! bioload. i was thinking of getting rid of my spotted just for that reason.

The banggais don't seem to eat that much compared to the clownfish.

[biocube14g]

My large spotted cardinal has the same bioload in one day as my pair of OC clows have in a week!

[fish clown]

Originally Posted by fish clown

Yes corals can be afflicting, I'm going to try to only trade for coral so I don't have to pay for them. I'll look up the corals and see which ones need to be moved if any.

*addicting* auto correct is annoying.

[fish clown]

I think I'll be waiting on the fish till the beginning of January because ill be gone this weekend and about 9 days the next week so it dosnt make a whole lot of sense to get them this second. Also everyone seems to not have the randals goby right now.