Everythings bigger in texas - Page 2

Deinonych · 04/30/2013, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirreal63

stay off the national seashore, different set of rules on the island, federal laws not state. Check with the tpwd to learn where you can or what you have to do.

+1

Bpb · 05/01/2013, 08:23 AM

just do a muriatic acid bath and remove any doubt. It'll be safe to use right away and that will likely get rid of the vast majority of anything you're worried about leeching. Save all the hassle. Takes 20 minutes.

aandfsoccr04 · 05/01/2013, 08:29 AM

Why do you want to take rocks from your yard to the ocean and dump them in the ocean only to retrieve them a few months later?

codyreed29 · 05/01/2013, 08:38 AM

I will ask. I think 12 miles form the coastline is still texas waters everything past 12 miles is federal.

rrasco · 05/01/2013, 09:45 AM

People use holey rock in cichlid tanks because cichlids like hard water, the limestone helps buffer the water. Down here in Texas we don't need the holey rock because our water comes from mainly limestone aquifers, making it ideal hardness already. I would be cautious using holey rock in your SW tank as it could buffer the water in ways you don't want it to. It's also nowhere near the porousness of good LR.

codyreed29 · 05/02/2013, 12:41 PM

Yeah I think the idea is to buy some Brs rock saver and then maybe dump that. Ive just got my tank how I want it. Maybe in six months I will consider doing this. Right now I'm at the point where i can start buying corals. The idea lives on It might take me a few months to stock my tank with the corals i want and then I could dump some rocks. I'm guessing it will be a year or more before i need more room.

Mike Ordner · 05/02/2013, 02:51 PM

I think you might want to think this through if you plan to dump rock in the near shore waters. Do you have experience beyond the breakers on the Texas coast in a kayak? If you really just want to get real life on the rock why not just place it in the Laguna Madre near Brazos Santiago Pass. There is some pretty cool stuff that grows on the rocks near the Coast Guard Station. Even if you did make it off shore I would bet you would never find the rock again when you went to retrieve it. Just my two cents.

codyreed29 · 05/02/2013, 07:43 PM

Lol I was looking up some make your own rock methods. Cement crushed oyster shells and crushed coral. I would add some aragonite sand. I could mix it all down there and build me a structure. This will be for a 75 or 90 gallon. Dig a hole in the sand and let it dry a few days. I have kayaked off shore before and fished. I went about 1/4 to 1/2 mile. I figure the third sandbar never gets out past 1/3 mile. So somewhere between there and a half mile. I was going to do this with a large blow off raft and lifejacket. I figure they can hold me 185 plus 75-100 lbs of rock. I'll tie it with a large nylon rope black and a floresent 3 litter bottle plus I can judge my are by the condos. It might take me a hour to find it in early september but at the price its worth a try. crushed coral 25 crushed oyster free bag of concretes 3 bucks a bag of sand is like 10 bucks. 38 bucks plus a raft.

So hat have you seen on the rocks? I know where your talking about. Maybe I just don't want someone snaggin it. If i put it a 1/2 mile out nobody will get it.

codyreed29 · 05/02/2013, 07:45 PM

I'm mostly doing this for biological filtration. I looked up water tempartures and it should be arround 78 in a coouple weeks and will be back around there in middle september. Only gets up to about 82

yachtdr22 · 05/03/2013, 12:48 AM

Where are you guys located?

Padre Island National Seashore is less than a mile from me?

Corpus Christi (Padre Island) in the house!

jaa1456 · 05/03/2013, 05:18 AM

If you want some actual LARGE rock call BRS and get some Pukani rock. I ordered 50lbs of it and asked for a large piece for the center of my 120. I didn't expect to get a piece almost 36"L by 24"w and 18"T. I actually sold the piece to another reefer and had to order a smaller centerpiece.

Mike Ordner · 05/03/2013, 01:34 PM

yachtdr22, He is talking about South Padre Island down by Port Isabel in the valley. Seashore is north of him as it ends at Mansfield Pass.

codyreed29 · 05/03/2013, 07:34 PM

Yeah forgot I'm of the island Him I don't think i'm past 12 miles from the actual coast. more like 4 or 5.

yachtdr22 · 05/03/2013, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyreed29

I have searched all the laws on harvesting here in texas and there a season on snails crabs and such when you can't take them and how many. They don't have any laws on liverock or livestock except for like snails conchs hermits and some others. But just to be nice I will do as i stated above.

Cody,
I live on the water... I can hang it off my dock if that will help!

Drew

yachtdr22 · 05/03/2013, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Ordner

yachtdr22, He is talking about South Padre Island down by Port Isabel in the valley. Seashore is north of him as it ends at Mansfield Pass.

Gotcha....

I dont know how many "Reefers" are in Corpus... but we should really get something going.. if not a "Club" maybe a group or something.. some sort of support group!!... you know... for those 4am tank leaks and such!

Drew

codyreed29 · 05/03/2013, 08:21 PM

lol yeah. My not so distance disaster wasn't to bad. Now that I have a lfs in kerrville. I'm not nearly as worried. We have became friends And will let me put things in his tanks for safe keeping.

splateee · 05/03/2013, 09:08 PM

I have used Texas Holey Rock. I had it in a cichlid tank before switching it over to salt. It is very heavy dense rock. I have only a few large pieces left and it is mainly for a base. There is no live growth on it. It is not porous like the live rock that is used.

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 05:50 PM

I still need to call them. The last time i talked to them they said they started doing this because winter texans where racked them in and letting them die for the shells and stuff.
•It is unlawful to take more than 15 live univalve snails during a day which include no more than 2 each of the following snails: lightning whelk, horse conch, Florida fighting conch, pear whelk, banded tulip, or Florida rocksnail.
•It is unlawful to take or kill shell-bearing mollusks, hermit crabs, starfish, or sea urchins from Nov. 1 through Apr. 30 within the following boundary: the bay and pass sides of South Padre Island from the east end of the north jetty at Brazos Santiago Pass to the west end of West Marisol Drive in the town of South Padre Island, out 1,000 yards from the mean high-tide line, and bounded to the south by the centerline of the Brazos Santiago Pass.

brazos santaigo pass is the fishing jetties and a 1000 yards is less than a mile a mile is 1700. so about 2/3 of a mile. I will have to take these rocks down near the jettis. The line in between the two jetties is where it starts so i will put it within the thing.

Importation of Wildlife Resources

It is unlawful to import a wildlife resource into this state or possess a wildlife resource taken outside this state unless the person possessing the wildlife resource possesses a valid hunting, fishing, or other applicable license, stamp endorsement, tag, permit, or document for the state or country in which the wildlife resource was legally taken. Such documentation must be produced upon request of a game warden.

It is unlawful to land by boat or person any fish taken from public water within a protected length limit, or in excess of the daily bag limit or possession limit established for those fish in Texas, regardless of the state or country in which they were caught.

A person possessing a wildlife resource for importation must produce, upon request of a game warden, a valid driver's license or personal identification certificate.

A person may possess an animal or bird killed outside of Texas that is listed in Texas as threatened or endangered, provided that the person possesses proof that the animal or bird possessed was lawfully killed. Proof consists of bill-of-sale, license tag, or notarized affidavit.

Well I'll do some diving and collect some urchins hermits and starfish if anyone wants any. I can easy send them One day ground throught the state. Ground shipping is cheap and can keep them in my tank till you want them. Maybe I just take some pics and you can tell me what you want. CODYREED@( SPI FREE DIVE PRODUCTS LOL> I can easily cath you guys scorpion fish as well.

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 06:06 PM

if guys interested i [plan to get me some smallys

order
1 bonded tulip
2florida conch
3 florida rocksnail
4 horse conch
5 lighting whelk

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 06:09 PM

7 perry winkle

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 06:14 PM

heres the starfish down there

they look ;like this

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 06:19 PM

and the sea urchins thee black.

codyreed29 · 05/10/2013, 06:22 PM

I'm going down there for memorial day to put the man made rocks and cn dive a few days. I can upload some pics of what ive got I am going to get some stuff for myself when i;m there and can post pics of what i get each day after diving. Then you can let me know if you want anything. You pay the shipping from 78028 and there yours You could donate some money to the fund. I will also put about 150-200 lbs of concrete-crushed corals and sand rocks. won't be done till late august early septmeber though.

05/01/2013, 08:29 AM	#28
aandfsoccr04 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 3,561	Why do you want to take rocks from your yard to the ocean and dump them in the ocean only to retrieve them a few months later? __________________ 120 gallon mixed reef

05/01/2013, 09:45 AM	#30
rrasco Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: South Texas Posts: 2,159	People use holey rock in cichlid tanks because cichlids like hard water, the limestone helps buffer the water. Down here in Texas we don't need the holey rock because our water comes from mainly limestone aquifers, making it ideal hardness already. I would be cautious using holey rock in your SW tank as it could buffer the water in ways you don't want it to. It's also nowhere near the porousness of good LR. __________________ -You had me at PWM

05/03/2013, 12:48 AM	#35
yachtdr22 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: corpus christi, tx Posts: 488	Where are you guys located? Padre Island National Seashore is less than a mile from me? Corpus Christi (Padre Island) in the house! __________________ 125 FOLR, 30 gal sump w/LR, SWC 16

05/01/2013, 08:23 AM	#27
Bpb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 3,148	just do a muriatic acid bath and remove any doubt. It'll be safe to use right away and that will likely get rid of the vast majority of anything you're worried about leeching. Save all the hassle. Takes 20 minutes.

05/01/2013, 08:38 AM	#29
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	I will ask. I think 12 miles form the coastline is still texas waters everything past 12 miles is federal.

05/02/2013, 12:41 PM	#31
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	Yeah I think the idea is to buy some Brs rock saver and then maybe dump that. Ive just got my tank how I want it. Maybe in six months I will consider doing this. Right now I'm at the point where i can start buying corals. The idea lives on It might take me a few months to stock my tank with the corals i want and then I could dump some rocks. I'm guessing it will be a year or more before i need more room.

05/02/2013, 02:51 PM	#32
Mike Ordner Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 415	I think you might want to think this through if you plan to dump rock in the near shore waters. Do you have experience beyond the breakers on the Texas coast in a kayak? If you really just want to get real life on the rock why not just place it in the Laguna Madre near Brazos Santiago Pass. There is some pretty cool stuff that grows on the rocks near the Coast Guard Station. Even if you did make it off shore I would bet you would never find the rock again when you went to retrieve it. Just my two cents.

05/02/2013, 07:43 PM	#33
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	Lol I was looking up some make your own rock methods. Cement crushed oyster shells and crushed coral. I would add some aragonite sand. I could mix it all down there and build me a structure. This will be for a 75 or 90 gallon. Dig a hole in the sand and let it dry a few days. I have kayaked off shore before and fished. I went about 1/4 to 1/2 mile. I figure the third sandbar never gets out past 1/3 mile. So somewhere between there and a half mile. I was going to do this with a large blow off raft and lifejacket. I figure they can hold me 185 plus 75-100 lbs of rock. I'll tie it with a large nylon rope black and a floresent 3 litter bottle plus I can judge my are by the condos. It might take me a hour to find it in early september but at the price its worth a try. crushed coral 25 crushed oyster free bag of concretes 3 bucks a bag of sand is like 10 bucks. 38 bucks plus a raft. So hat have you seen on the rocks? I know where your talking about. Maybe I just don't want someone snaggin it. If i put it a 1/2 mile out nobody will get it.

05/02/2013, 07:45 PM	#34
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	I'm mostly doing this for biological filtration. I looked up water tempartures and it should be arround 78 in a coouple weeks and will be back around there in middle september. Only gets up to about 82

05/03/2013, 05:18 AM	#36
jaa1456 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 1,145	If you want some actual LARGE rock call BRS and get some Pukani rock. I ordered 50lbs of it and asked for a large piece for the center of my 120. I didn't expect to get a piece almost 36"L by 24"w and 18"T. I actually sold the piece to another reefer and had to order a smaller centerpiece.

05/03/2013, 01:34 PM	#37
Mike Ordner Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 415	yachtdr22, He is talking about South Padre Island down by Port Isabel in the valley. Seashore is north of him as it ends at Mansfield Pass.

05/03/2013, 07:34 PM	#38
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	Yeah forgot I'm of the island Him I don't think i'm past 12 miles from the actual coast. more like 4 or 5.

05/03/2013, 08:21 PM	#41
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	lol yeah. My not so distance disaster wasn't to bad. Now that I have a lfs in kerrville. I'm not nearly as worried. We have became friends And will let me put things in his tanks for safe keeping.

05/03/2013, 09:08 PM	#42
splateee Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Flower Mound, Texas Posts: 561	I have used Texas Holey Rock. I had it in a cichlid tank before switching it over to salt. It is very heavy dense rock. I have only a few large pieces left and it is mainly for a base. There is no live growth on it. It is not porous like the live rock that is used.

05/10/2013, 05:50 PM	#43
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	I still need to call them. The last time i talked to them they said they started doing this because winter texans where racked them in and letting them die for the shells and stuff. •It is unlawful to take more than 15 live univalve snails during a day which include no more than 2 each of the following snails: lightning whelk, horse conch, Florida fighting conch, pear whelk, banded tulip, or Florida rocksnail. •It is unlawful to take or kill shell-bearing mollusks, hermit crabs, starfish, or sea urchins from Nov. 1 through Apr. 30 within the following boundary: the bay and pass sides of South Padre Island from the east end of the north jetty at Brazos Santiago Pass to the west end of West Marisol Drive in the town of South Padre Island, out 1,000 yards from the mean high-tide line, and bounded to the south by the centerline of the Brazos Santiago Pass. brazos santaigo pass is the fishing jetties and a 1000 yards is less than a mile a mile is 1700. so about 2/3 of a mile. I will have to take these rocks down near the jettis. The line in between the two jetties is where it starts so i will put it within the thing. Importation of Wildlife Resources It is unlawful to import a wildlife resource into this state or possess a wildlife resource taken outside this state unless the person possessing the wildlife resource possesses a valid hunting, fishing, or other applicable license, stamp endorsement, tag, permit, or document for the state or country in which the wildlife resource was legally taken. Such documentation must be produced upon request of a game warden. It is unlawful to land by boat or person any fish taken from public water within a protected length limit, or in excess of the daily bag limit or possession limit established for those fish in Texas, regardless of the state or country in which they were caught. A person possessing a wildlife resource for importation must produce, upon request of a game warden, a valid driver's license or personal identification certificate. A person may possess an animal or bird killed outside of Texas that is listed in Texas as threatened or endangered, provided that the person possesses proof that the animal or bird possessed was lawfully killed. Proof consists of bill-of-sale, license tag, or notarized affidavit. Well I'll do some diving and collect some urchins hermits and starfish if anyone wants any. I can easy send them One day ground throught the state. Ground shipping is cheap and can keep them in my tank till you want them. Maybe I just take some pics and you can tell me what you want. CODYREED@( SPI FREE DIVE PRODUCTS LOL> I can easily cath you guys scorpion fish as well.

05/10/2013, 06:22 PM	#48
codyreed29 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 892	I'm going down there for memorial day to put the man made rocks and cn dive a few days. I can upload some pics of what ive got I am going to get some stuff for myself when i;m there and can post pics of what i get each day after diving. Then you can let me know if you want anything. You pay the shipping from 78028 and there yours You could donate some money to the fund. I will also put about 150-200 lbs of concrete-crushed corals and sand rocks. won't be done till late august early septmeber though.