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Unread 02/04/2015, 03:25 PM   #26
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Fish can knock themselves cold. Or faint. I had a hard time getting my yellow watchman goby pair out of a tank I was breaking down---and the chase kicked up so much from the sand that by the time I found the male, he had passed out from want of oxygen. Female was already in the new tank---and I feared her mate was dead or dying, but the destination tank was the clean water I had. I moved him on over. The female went over to him as he lay on the sand and kept nudging him gently until he woke up---he's still alive, both of them healthy, and faring well.


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Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.
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Unread 02/04/2015, 03:27 PM   #27
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Glad to hear your Gramma is cruising around again. I think a lot of our salty friends are a lot more resilient than we give them credit for.


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Unread 02/04/2015, 03:32 PM   #28
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here is a quick description of marine buffer, i highly recomend you using some. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...fm?pcatid=4168

try not to look at the fish, i know it sounds cruel but let it take its coarse you cant do much about it now. it either lives or it doesnt, time will tell.
Why would you recommend he use buffers without knowing his parameters? That is not really good advice without first knowing all the facts. I don't use buffers nor do I dose anything and my parameters are just fine and have been for many many years. For many of us, there is no need to use buffers so I wouldn't suggest being so quick to give that kind of advice.

As others have mentioned, fish jumping out of the tank is common. This usually happens when they feel threatened and in this case, the process of cleaning the tank probably stressed or startled the fish which caused it to leap out of the tank. I've had wrasses do the same thing. It's relatively common. Glad the gramma is doing better.


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Unread 02/04/2015, 03:34 PM   #29
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Maybe because it was an idea, i didnt put a gun to his head and tell him "you better use it" come on be smart and think about what you say


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Unread 02/04/2015, 03:46 PM   #30
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Maybe because it was an idea, i didnt put a gun to his head and tell him "you better use it" come on be smart and think about what you say
Sorry to offend you. That wasn't my intent. No, you did not hold a gun to his head. You highly suggested he use some buffer without even knowing if he had a PH issue. A new to the hobby person without experience could take that advice for face value and start adding stuff to his tank because somebody "highly suggested" it. Given that, I would not suggest that was good advice and in the interest of the OP, I thought it should be pointed out.

Not sure I deserved the "Think about what I say" comment because I was really trying to help the OP while also pointing out that your suggestion should have some facts to support it. In this case, some knowledge about the OP's water would be needed to justify that. A fish jumping out of the tank which happens to be a very common thing would not justify nor necessitate the need for buffers. Fish don't jump because of low PH. I guess I could say the same thing to you regarding being smart and thinking about what you say. Some people come here with little knowledge about reef tanks, let alone water chemistry or in this case, why his fish may have jumped. Providing sound advice based on facts is more helpful than a recommendation without any facts. Especially when it comes to additives. This is afterall the New To The Hobby section where people come to get sound advice.

Anyhow, as I said, I didn't intend nor mean to offend you. I felt it important to point out that additives should only be used when needed and if there isn't a PH issue, there is no need to use a buffer in my experience.


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Unread 02/04/2015, 05:02 PM   #31
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Glad to hear the fish is doing well.


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Unread 02/04/2015, 06:43 PM   #32
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Thanks for all your concern. Still doing well , eating and acting normal.

Ph is at 8.1 btw. I def think I just scared him.


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Unread 02/04/2015, 10:51 PM   #33
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I was working at a fish store a while back, and the sweetest little girl wanted a goldfish that was in the highest layer of tanks. So I picked her up so she could pick out the exact one she wanted, and when I was getting it for her the sucker jumped right out of the net. It fell about 8 feet onto the concrete right in front of the little girl flopping all around her feet. She started screaming and crying which threw me off my game (maybe it was the angry mother shooting daggers at me) and I missed the last step off the ladder falling on my side. The amount of time it took for me to get up, grab it, and climb back up to put it in the tank seemed like an eternity and the first thing it did was win the lawn dart impersonation award as it went head first right to the bottom.

I sometimes wonder if that little girl ever got a goldfish or if the mother's face got stuck that way, but these are things I'll never know. The good news is I felt like I owed one to the little guy and took him home. He made out just fine. I had him until this most recent move. The only goldfish I'll ever love. Long story short; I'm pretty sure you're little guy is gonna make it. Good luck!


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