Which fish should I get - Page 2

e048 · 12/27/2015, 01:43 PM

No your tank is too small and too stocked

Plus the puffer can (being the key word) eat your starfish and hermits each puffer is different I had my saddle in my 90 with clams, coral, shrimp, etc etc for a year until he jumped out then again I had another one that decimated every invert in my tank

Puffers are hit and miss as far as reef safe goes

running scott · 12/27/2015, 03:44 PM

I have a Valentini thAt I was so hoping would play nice in my tank, but I just caught him nipping at my Derasa clam. So into my refugium he went! Such a neat fish! I will just have to enjoy him in there. On plus side they are very easy to catch with a net.

TheAwesomesloth · 12/27/2015, 06:00 PM

Hello Everyone,
I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with
1 pecula clownfish
1 lubbock wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 chocolate chip starfish
1 blue leg hermit crab

I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions.
Thanks
TheAwesomesloth

TheAwesomesloth · 12/27/2015, 06:00 PM

Hello Everyone,
I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with
1 pecula clownfish
1 lubbock wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 chocolate chip starfish
1 blue leg hermit crab

I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions.
Thanks
TheAwesomesloth

Dkuhlmann · 12/27/2015, 06:11 PM

They're a really cool fish, I loved watching mine when it would perch on the rocks and rotate it's eyes looking around. They can get pretty aggressive when they mature, and you can pretty much never have any live shrimp in your tank.

chilli_reef · 12/27/2015, 06:49 PM

Hawk fish will take out her is and shrimp. That is why they are listed as reef safe with caution.
Personally, I would say your full up in that 37g tank.
But that's just me.

Dustin Thompson · 12/27/2015, 06:51 PM

I had a falco hawk in with a small clown, tiny one spot foxface, starry blenny, and orchid dottyback in a 57 gallon and he was like the devil. He hated the one spot and the dottyback. The clown kept an eye out for him and the starry blenny gave him a run for his money.

He was enjoyably to watch and a terrific eater, but I brought him back after a week or so. Maybe the flames are a bit more mellow? Good luck!

TheAwesomesloth · 12/27/2015, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dkuhlmann

They're a really cool fish, I loved watching mine when it would perch on the rocks and rotate it's eyes looking around. They can get pretty aggressive when they mature, and you can pretty much never have any live shrimp in your tank.

I know they are really cool! Do you think it would work in mine

TheAwesomesloth · 12/27/2015, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone fishin

I would speculate the firefish is just being skiddish.

You were right. He is out almost all the time now! Thanks

Dkuhlmann · 12/27/2015, 08:00 PM

I gave you the facts of the fish, the decision if it will or not work in your tank is totally up to you. I no longer have one in my tank, The choice to get one depends on what your plans are for the future of your tank.

I also wouldn't have a lubbocks wrasse in a tank smaller than 50 gal, but that's me.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...376&pcatid=376

chilli_reef · 12/27/2015, 08:58 PM

That "her is" was supposed to read "hermits" lol !

snorvich · 12/27/2015, 09:21 PM

Not shrimp safe, but otherwise, fine.

Martini5788 · 12/27/2015, 11:14 PM

It would be fine with the fish listed, but will gradually eat your cuc. Mine never got to my hermits but snails were fair game. I love valentinis though. And will have one in every tank I can.

IronMonkey · 12/28/2015, 01:47 AM

Flame hawks are a lot like dwarf angels IMHO, they may or may not have or eventually develop bad behavior. I have a flame angel that developed an addiction for LPS that could never be satisfied, but I also have a flame hawk that, to date, has never paid attention to any of the shrimp. There are 2 cleaner shrimp, 1 fire shrimp and 4 peppermint shrimp that have never been bothered by "Doug" (my flame hawk).

ffreyonn · 12/28/2015, 01:59 AM

Maybe the flames are a bit more mellow? Good luck!

tg1966 · 12/28/2015, 07:28 AM

Its 100% hit or miss. I have both a reef safe Flame Hawkfish and Flame Angel. Model citizens in every way.

gone fishin · 12/28/2015, 08:30 AM

Glad it worked out.

TheAwesomesloth · 12/28/2015, 10:28 AM

Hello Everyone,
I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with
1 pecula clownfish
1 lubbock wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 chocolate chip starfish
1 blue leg hermit crab

I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish or a Saddle valentini Puffer. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions.
Thanks
TheAwesomesloth

Also if the puffer would not work is there any that would

TheAwesomesloth · 12/28/2015, 10:29 AM

ello Everyone,
I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with
1 pecula clownfish
1 lubbock wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 firefish
1 chocolate chip starfish
1 blue leg hermit crab

I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish or a Saddle valentini Puffer. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions.
Thanks
TheAwesomesloth

Also if the puffer would not work is there any that would

Martini5788 · 12/28/2015, 11:06 AM

What kind of inverts are you wanting to keep? Are you going to do corals?

3dees · 12/28/2015, 11:36 AM

my flame hawk didn't bother my peppermint's. I don't have hermit's. shrimp vanished after I added a coral banded shrimp.

Sugar Magnolia · 12/28/2015, 11:48 AM

I wouldn't add any more fish to that size tank.

MondoBongo · 12/28/2015, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar Magnolia

I wouldn't add any more fish to that size tank.

+1. i would consider a tank that sized fully stocked.

chimmike · 12/28/2015, 12:06 PM

I'd probably get rid of that starfish as it'll eat anything it can get a hold of, too.

MondoBongo · 12/28/2015, 12:26 PM

the chocolate chip starfish?

they won't eat fish or non-sessile inverts. they will happily eat coral though.

12/27/2015, 06:00 PM	#28
TheAwesomesloth Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 36	Flame Hawkfish Hello Everyone, I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with 1 pecula clownfish 1 lubbock wrasse 1 royal gramma 1 firefish 1 chocolate chip starfish 1 blue leg hermit crab I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions. Thanks TheAwesomesloth

12/27/2015, 06:00 PM	#29
TheAwesomesloth Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 36	flame Hawkfish Hello Everyone, I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with 1 pecula clownfish 1 lubbock wrasse 1 royal gramma 1 firefish 1 chocolate chip starfish 1 blue leg hermit crab I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions. Thanks TheAwesomesloth

12/27/2015, 06:11 PM	#30
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	They're a really cool fish, I loved watching mine when it would perch on the rocks and rotate it's eyes looking around. They can get pretty aggressive when they mature, and you can pretty much never have any live shrimp in your tank. __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

12/27/2015, 06:49 PM	#31
chilli_reef Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Chillicothe Ohio Posts: 468	Hawk fish will take out her is and shrimp. That is why they are listed as reef safe with caution. Personally, I would say your full up in that 37g tank. But that's just me. __________________ "But did you die !" Current Tank Info: 75g nondrilled reef.

12/27/2015, 08:00 PM	#35
Dkuhlmann Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,823	I gave you the facts of the fish, the decision if it will or not work in your tank is totally up to you. I no longer have one in my tank, The choice to get one depends on what your plans are for the future of your tank. I also wouldn't have a lubbocks wrasse in a tank smaller than 50 gal, but that's me. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...376&pcatid=376 __________________ Previous tanks: 200 gal fowlr 9" Emperor Angel and many different butterfly fish 4" maroon clown and several other fish, 50 gal sump, 40 gal mixed reef/fish mostly softies and LPS. Current Tank Info: 40b 750 gph 45 lbs lr, 2"-3" sand, 165w full spectrum dimable LED, 20 gal sump/refugium 30 lbs lr, Bak Pak 2 skimmer, 4" sock temp 79-80, sg 1.026, NH3 0, NO2 0, NO3 <10, ph 8.2, calc 400, mag 1300

12/27/2015, 01:43 PM	#26
e048 Registered Member. Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 598	No your tank is too small and too stocked Plus the puffer can (being the key word) eat your starfish and hermits each puffer is different I had my saddle in my 90 with clams, coral, shrimp, etc etc for a year until he jumped out then again I had another one that decimated every invert in my tank Puffers are hit and miss as far as reef safe goes

12/27/2015, 03:44 PM	#27
running scott Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bradenton,Fl Posts: 219	I have a Valentini thAt I was so hoping would play nice in my tank, but I just caught him nipping at my Derasa clam. So into my refugium he went! Such a neat fish! I will just have to enjoy him in there. On plus side they are very easy to catch with a net.

12/27/2015, 06:51 PM	#32
Dustin Thompson Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 32	I had a falco hawk in with a small clown, tiny one spot foxface, starry blenny, and orchid dottyback in a 57 gallon and he was like the devil. He hated the one spot and the dottyback. The clown kept an eye out for him and the starry blenny gave him a run for his money. He was enjoyably to watch and a terrific eater, but I brought him back after a week or so. Maybe the flames are a bit more mellow? Good luck!

12/27/2015, 08:58 PM	#36
chilli_reef Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Chillicothe Ohio Posts: 468	That "her is" was supposed to read "hermits" lol ! __________________ "But did you die !" Current Tank Info: 75g nondrilled reef.

12/27/2015, 09:21 PM	#37
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Not shrimp safe, but otherwise, fine. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

12/27/2015, 11:14 PM	#38
Martini5788 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 2,303	It would be fine with the fish listed, but will gradually eat your cuc. Mine never got to my hermits but snails were fair game. I love valentinis though. And will have one in every tank I can.

12/28/2015, 01:47 AM	#39
IronMonkey Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 72	Flame hawks are a lot like dwarf angels IMHO, they may or may not have or eventually develop bad behavior. I have a flame angel that developed an addiction for LPS that could never be satisfied, but I also have a flame hawk that, to date, has never paid attention to any of the shrimp. There are 2 cleaner shrimp, 1 fire shrimp and 4 peppermint shrimp that have never been bothered by "Doug" (my flame hawk). __________________ 210gal, Radion xr30w pro, Radion mp40qd, 40gal sump, Apex w/PM2,WXM,ALD,PMK,EB8, Reeflo pump, Eheim Jager 300w, Vertex alpha 200, Tunze Osmolator, BRS Deluxe Carbon and GFO reactors

12/28/2015, 01:59 AM	#40
ffreyonn Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 4	Maybe the flames are a bit more mellow? Good luck!

12/28/2015, 07:28 AM	#41
tg1966 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 55	Its 100% hit or miss. I have both a reef safe Flame Hawkfish and Flame Angel. Model citizens in every way.

12/28/2015, 08:30 AM	#42
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	Glad it worked out. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

12/28/2015, 10:28 AM	#43
TheAwesomesloth Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 36	Which fish should I get Hello Everyone, I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with 1 pecula clownfish 1 lubbock wrasse 1 royal gramma 1 firefish 1 chocolate chip starfish 1 blue leg hermit crab I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish or a Saddle valentini Puffer. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions. Thanks TheAwesomesloth Also if the puffer would not work is there any that would

12/28/2015, 10:29 AM	#44
TheAwesomesloth Registered Member. Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 36	Which fish should I get ello Everyone, I currently have a 37 gallon saltwater tank with 1 pecula clownfish 1 lubbock wrasse 1 royal gramma 1 firefish 1 chocolate chip starfish 1 blue leg hermit crab I was wondering if I would be able to get a Flame Hawkfish or a Saddle valentini Puffer. They are listed at reef safe with caution on LiveAquaria and I wanted to get a few opinions. Thanks TheAwesomesloth Also if the puffer would not work is there any that would

12/28/2015, 11:06 AM	#45
Martini5788 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 2,303	What kind of inverts are you wanting to keep? Are you going to do corals?

12/28/2015, 11:36 AM	#46
3dees Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 793	my flame hawk didn't bother my peppermint's. I don't have hermit's. shrimp vanished after I added a coral banded shrimp.

12/28/2015, 11:48 AM	#47
Sugar Magnolia Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Northern VA Posts: 17,691	I wouldn't add any more fish to that size tank. __________________ Adrienne The only thing to fear is fear itself....and spiders.

12/28/2015, 12:06 PM	#49
chimmike oxygen abuser Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Parrish, FL Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 2	I'd probably get rid of that starfish as it'll eat anything it can get a hold of, too. __________________ -Mike Tankless wonder Geaux Noles!

12/28/2015, 12:26 PM	#50
MondoBongo Obligate Feeder Obsessed Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,061	the chocolate chip starfish? they won't eat fish or non-sessile inverts. they will happily eat coral though. __________________ [Citation Needed] "You don't use science to show that you're right, you use science to become right" - xkcd Current Tank Info: A rectangular shaped money pit.