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09/01/2016, 03:18 PM | #26 |
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Ron I will have to dis-agree with you on the Made in Japan as poor quality. Although people who made that claim did not own a Winchester 101 or Browning Citori. And it wasn't till Ford got with Mazda and Chevy got with Izuzu did there engines quit using more oil than gas. Back in the 60's there were still many that remembered a war also. I still have a couple friends that refuse to buy Made in Korea. They don't care what side of the border it comes from.
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Not to derail this thread with a continued history lesson, but as alton mentioned, post WWII Germany and Japan had a lot of time to focus on technology and infrastructure since they didn't have to (or couldn't) worry about their military presence. Korea is another example though -- remember when Hyundai first came out with their car? If you kicked it, it would fall apart. Now Samsung and LG make some pretty decent stuff.
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09/01/2016, 07:16 PM | #28 |
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If you ask me "made in the USA" is a warning label.
Most of the time it really means: 1: "look closer, it really isn't" 2: "this is overpriced" *runs away*
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Look at aerospace. A lot has been moved into Mexico as well as other markets. You get rid of the ISO cert and the American dollar goes a bit further. The factories look like laboratories. It's crazy. I was looking into another hot tub last year and the salesman threw out that the "new" factory was in Mexico. So I asked, do you still hold the ISO cert? He said "no". That tells me that production can be done however "they" see fit. At least with aerospace things must be inspected and approved before entering American air space. That goes for any country. Including China.:-) Quote:
To the labor bit.....like I said earlier. GREED. You gotta buy the expensive stuff somehow.....right? No one stops to think that the end user unltimately pays for this stuff. If a line worker wants more money......the person buying it MUST pay more for it. (Airfare???) Don't think companies are just going to give up the cost difference/over run. They're in it for money too. Edit: Look at Twinkie a few years ago. The unions wouldn't budge and demanded more. Twinkie said no we can't.....the union said no. More. Twinkie shut down......... Last edited by 2_zoa; 09/01/2016 at 08:12 PM. |
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My main issue is that nobody ever sends samples in to triton when their tank is doing fine. Like, it's set up to be "there's a problem, go find out why" and then "oh noes! The unobtanium is off the charts!" I guess that's why they put in the aquarium, to show that tungsten is linked to failure to thrive, but that doesn't seem like much. I bet if triton offered free testing to happy tanks, and a bunch of successful reefers sent in samples, the results would be surprising.
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this thread should go to the lounge
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09/02/2016, 04:55 AM | #32 |
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I wonder how many tanks with titanium chillers have high levels of titanium in the water?
How much titanium could come from a small impeller shaft? Really? Titanium is pretty resilient stuff. I suspect an impurity in salt or something else. |
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Thread is entirely now off topic, also starting to head into a political debate
Back on topic- Ron brought up some good points, but I side with alton on the made in Japan issue, the Japanese manufacture some very well engineered stuff, 2JZ or rb26dett anyone? not to mention some of the reef tanks hailing out of Japan are pretty unbelievable. CStrickland also brought up a great point on triton tests, and I agree I bet many of us would be surprised of some of our results even though our reef looks great.
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Unobtanium - The Core
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