what do these corals need? - Page 2

1sttimer · 11/26/2016, 09:12 PM

I'll take your word for it. What should I do?

1sttimer · 11/26/2016, 09:31 PM

I also want to add that I'm using instant ocean salt and I presently mix it 2 days before water change. Should I switch to reef crystals?

Betaktical · 11/26/2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyL

Ok, I am going to say it. Your tank is way to young and immature to have corals in my opinion.

Why is his tank too immature? The green star polyps will survive anywhere. The Zoas can be more complicated in some cases but they usually work too. I have seen gsp in tanks with 100+nitrates that are growing like crazy. Even if it's not cycled usually that's one of the first beginner corals that people put in.

It's only been in your tank for a week. Get them as close to the light as possible and maybe increase flow a little bit. Give it time and more than likely they will come around.

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1sttimer · 11/27/2016, 07:17 AM

I'll increase the intensity and see how they react.

Fish_BowLisha · 11/29/2016, 03:44 AM

Corals are tricky! I started with what most would consider "weeds" the pulsing Xenia and then moved on to mushrooms and then a hammer coral this was all within a ten year span...those three do well in my tank. I have a tiny leather drag that went through some tough times but has managed to stay alive:-) It just depends on your style I think. Unfortunately it's hard to know when that is. In the mean time learn to enjoy spending lots of time on wet web media and perusing books about the different species :-)

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Fish_BowLisha · 11/29/2016, 03:45 AM

[QUOTE=Fish_BowLisha;24839589]Corals are tricky! I started with what most would consider "weeds" the pulsing Xenia and then moved on to mushrooms and then a hammer coral this was all within a ten year span...those three do well in my tank. I have a tiny leather frag that went through some tough times but has managed to stay alive:-) It just depends on your style I think. Unfortunately it's hard to know when that is. In the mean time learn to enjoy spending lots of time on wet web media and perusing books about the different species :-)

sde1500 · 11/29/2016, 10:22 AM

reef crystals are better for reef tanks if you don't want to dose to bring up levels to where they need to be off the start. These corals really aren't all that picky, but to be sure what are your big 3? Alk, Calc, and Mag, should know these all now that you are adding corals to the tank.

1sttimer · 11/29/2016, 05:37 PM

I started about 4 months ago when I sold my piranhas and tank.
My wife was so happy that we had no more aquarium after 20 years of keeping nothing but piranhas. About a week later I was going through major withdrawals and decided to start a 33 gallon brackish tank which turned into full marine tank not long after.
Here I am discussing corals. So much more involved and so addictive. Thanks for all the info.

Vwcrackerjack · 11/29/2016, 09:37 PM

If he has been testing water and the tank cycles properly then what's the harm with putting a couple corals in it? I wouldn't suggest and sps or anything but I've seen tanks that became TOTM starting out exactly like this. Some people just get lucky and put coral in and it works. Maybe differences is salt or light or even the skimmer who knows. I'd agree and say keep an eye on your water tests. That's more important right now than anything. I've seen tanks with crappy old *** equipment and running old lights etc and coral looking beautiful in it because it was a stable environment for them to be in and become used to. It's hard for everyone to not want that tank to be full of stuff and looking great but honestly it's difficult. Especially during the first year. I'd leave those corals and try and see if you can get them to grow. Keep water stable and do some research on whatever coral you decide to try out next before you buy one.

Betaktical · 11/30/2016, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vwcrackerjack

If he has been testing water and the tank cycles properly then what's the harm with putting a couple corals in it? I wouldn't suggest and sps or anything but I've seen tanks that became TOTM starting out exactly like this. Some people just get lucky and put coral in and it works. Maybe differences is salt or light or even the skimmer who knows. I'd agree and say keep an eye on your water tests. That's more important right now than anything. I've seen tanks with crappy old *** equipment and running old lights etc and coral looking beautiful in it because it was a stable environment for them to be in and become used to. It's hard for everyone to not want that tank to be full of stuff and looking great but honestly it's difficult. Especially during the first year. I'd leave those corals and try and see if you can get them to grow. Keep water stable and do some research on whatever coral you decide to try out next before you buy one.

+1 thank you!!! Even in my short time in the reefing environment I have learned that even the most badass tanks with the best equipment can fail and every tank is different.

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themagicman · 11/30/2016, 12:11 AM

I apologize for not reading through the entire thread, but dedication and a routine shall rule them all.

themagicman · 11/30/2016, 12:13 AM

Then again, what's his name has been done in a year... Next!

PsychoticBeauty · 11/30/2016, 12:15 AM

Whatever hot shot. lol

Betaktical · 11/30/2016, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vwcrackerjack

If he has been testing water and the tank cycles properly then what's the harm with putting a couple corals in it? I wouldn't suggest and sps or anything but I've seen tanks that became TOTM starting out exactly like this. Some people just get lucky and put coral in and it works. Maybe differences is salt or light or even the skimmer who knows. I'd agree and say keep an eye on your water tests. That's more important right now than anything. I've seen tanks with crappy old *** equipment and running old lights etc and coral looking beautiful in it because it was a stable environment for them to be in and become used to. It's hard for everyone to not want that tank to be full of stuff and looking great but honestly it's difficult. Especially during the first year. I'd leave those corals and try and see if you can get them to grow. Keep water stable and do some research on whatever coral you decide to try out next before you buy one.

+1 thank you!!! Even in my short time in the reefing environment I have learned that even the most badass tanks with the best equipment can fail and every tank is different.

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Fish Friend · 12/04/2016, 04:55 AM

I don't know if your GSP is a briareum or pachyclavularia, or something completely else, but the GSP generally do better with traces of phosphate and nitrates.

I don't know about button polys.
But, since you don't have a huge reef that would suffer negatively from allowing these values to go up for a short time, you can try allowing a rise and see if it helps with the colour.

Despite all that, remember that it can take time to get use to new locations, so changing more things might always be counterproductive and ... even human babies do not have a 100% survival success, so don't expect anything else to have either

schnebbles · 12/04/2016, 09:11 AM

I have that same light and I only use the M2 for a couple days so I say go ahead and turn it up. I have it on a 40b which is 18" deep minus rock. My corals just like that are looking fine. I have the gsp on the bottom and the cloves about 4" up.

I have a bunch of corals, I hope they don't die, haven't lost any yet and my tank new like yours. Nothing is looking bad, everything opens up. Kinda scary when I read it's too new here!

1sttimer · 12/04/2016, 12:11 PM

Mine started opening up. I moved them up higher also yesterday
, I'll see how that works out . What salt are you guys using?
Should I try red Sea pro?

11/29/2016, 10:22 AM	#32
sde1500 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Glocester, RI Posts: 3,336	reef crystals are better for reef tanks if you don't want to dose to bring up levels to where they need to be off the start. These corals really aren't all that picky, but to be sure what are your big 3? Alk, Calc, and Mag, should know these all now that you are adding corals to the tank. __________________ My build thread: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548422 Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef, Eshopps sump and HOB overflow, RO-110int skimmer, Reefbreeder 32" photons V1.

11/30/2016, 12:11 AM	#36
themagicman Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: California Posts: 126	I apologize for not reading through the entire thread, but dedication and a routine shall rule them all. __________________ "Abracadabra Holmes."

11/30/2016, 12:13 AM	#37
themagicman Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: California Posts: 126	Then again, what's his name has been done in a year... Next! __________________ "Abracadabra Holmes."

11/26/2016, 09:12 PM	#26
1sttimer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 173	I'll take your word for it. What should I do?

11/26/2016, 09:31 PM	#27
1sttimer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 173	I also want to add that I'm using instant ocean salt and I presently mix it 2 days before water change. Should I switch to reef crystals?

11/27/2016, 07:17 AM	#29
1sttimer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 173	I'll increase the intensity and see how they react.

11/29/2016, 03:44 AM	#30
Fish_BowLisha Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 42	Corals are tricky! I started with what most would consider "weeds" the pulsing Xenia and then moved on to mushrooms and then a hammer coral this was all within a ten year span...those three do well in my tank. I have a tiny leather drag that went through some tough times but has managed to stay alive:-) It just depends on your style I think. Unfortunately it's hard to know when that is. In the mean time learn to enjoy spending lots of time on wet web media and perusing books about the different species :-) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/29/2016, 03:45 AM	#31
Fish_BowLisha Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 42	[QUOTE=Fish_BowLisha;24839589]Corals are tricky! I started with what most would consider "weeds" the pulsing Xenia and then moved on to mushrooms and then a hammer coral this was all within a ten year span...those three do well in my tank. I have a tiny leather frag that went through some tough times but has managed to stay alive:-) It just depends on your style I think. Unfortunately it's hard to know when that is. In the mean time learn to enjoy spending lots of time on wet web media and perusing books about the different species :-)

11/29/2016, 05:37 PM	#33
1sttimer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 173	I started about 4 months ago when I sold my piranhas and tank. My wife was so happy that we had no more aquarium after 20 years of keeping nothing but piranhas. About a week later I was going through major withdrawals and decided to start a 33 gallon brackish tank which turned into full marine tank not long after. Here I am discussing corals. So much more involved and so addictive. Thanks for all the info.

11/29/2016, 09:37 PM	#34
Vwcrackerjack Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Staten Island Posts: 5	If he has been testing water and the tank cycles properly then what's the harm with putting a couple corals in it? I wouldn't suggest and sps or anything but I've seen tanks that became TOTM starting out exactly like this. Some people just get lucky and put coral in and it works. Maybe differences is salt or light or even the skimmer who knows. I'd agree and say keep an eye on your water tests. That's more important right now than anything. I've seen tanks with crappy old *** equipment and running old lights etc and coral looking beautiful in it because it was a stable environment for them to be in and become used to. It's hard for everyone to not want that tank to be full of stuff and looking great but honestly it's difficult. Especially during the first year. I'd leave those corals and try and see if you can get them to grow. Keep water stable and do some research on whatever coral you decide to try out next before you buy one.

11/30/2016, 12:15 AM	#38
PsychoticBeauty Registered Member. Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Gotham City Posts: 123	Whatever hot shot. lol

12/04/2016, 04:55 AM	#40
Fish Friend Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 96	I don't know if your GSP is a briareum or pachyclavularia, or something completely else, but the GSP generally do better with traces of phosphate and nitrates. I don't know about button polys. But, since you don't have a huge reef that would suffer negatively from allowing these values to go up for a short time, you can try allowing a rise and see if it helps with the colour. Despite all that, remember that it can take time to get use to new locations, so changing more things might always be counterproductive and ... even human babies do not have a 100% survival success, so don't expect anything else to have either

12/04/2016, 09:11 AM	#41
schnebbles Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 475	I have that same light and I only use the M2 for a couple days so I say go ahead and turn it up. I have it on a 40b which is 18" deep minus rock. My corals just like that are looking fine. I have the gsp on the bottom and the cloves about 4" up. I have a bunch of corals, I hope they don't die, haven't lost any yet and my tank new like yours. Nothing is looking bad, everything opens up. Kinda scary when I read it's too new here!

12/04/2016, 12:11 PM	#42
1sttimer Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 173	Mine started opening up. I moved them up higher also yesterday , I'll see how that works out . What salt are you guys using? Should I try red Sea pro?