Another 'Back to Halides' thread...

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zacktosterone

I just took it down.... It's not even close to 10lbs it's more like 5. It's made of alluminum

Thanks. That's about what I'd figure... 4-5lbs would have been my guess.

Even at 5lbs, I'm not going to be using the glass mount.

I'm thinking of bending a piece of 3/4" conduit. Drill a 3/4" hole in the back/center of the shelf, so that the conduit goes inside the cabinet up against the back wall, a couple of conduit clamps screwed into the inside of the cabinet, i'd be nice and solid. Paint it all flat black, won't look too bad.

Thanks for the input, folks

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by GoVols

Welp, I guess you learned one thing after ten years.

Nothings gotten better except the many ways the industry has changed to take the consumer's money with sleek looking under preforming crap so you have to keep buying more sleek looking crap.

MH/T5 is still the GOLD standard in lighting!

Not true. Skimmer design has improved a great deal. You should have seen the gigantic, noisy PM Bullet Beckett injector skimmer I was using, with a huge external pump, didn't skim nearly as well as the SRO I'm using now. God forbid looking back 2 decades to the wooden airstone powered counter current skimmer I once had

DC powered pumps and wavemakers are _much_ better than what was available a decade back. Better test kits (the low range Hanna Phosphate tester, for one). We're not having to import pallets of southdown play sand from the east cost... talk about a nightmare.

Much has improved, and I have no doubt that in time someone will come up with an LED that performs as well as MH/T5... but I haven't seen it yet.

[GoVols]

Originally Posted by Greybeard

Not true. Skimmer design has improved a great deal. You should have seen the gigantic, noisy PM Bullet Beckett injector skimmer I was using, with a huge external pump, didn't skim nearly as well as the SRO I'm using now. God forbid looking back 2 decades to the wooden airstone powered counter current skimmer I once had

DC powered pumps and wavemakers are _much_ better than what was available a decade back. Better test kits (the low range Hanna Phosphate tester, for one). We're not having to import pallets of southdown play sand from the east cost... talk about a nightmare.

Much has improved, and I have no doubt that in time someone will come up with an LED that performs as well as MH/T5... but I haven't seen it yet.

I was agreeing with you over led lighting.

I've been reefing for over 30 years so I don't need any schooling over any equipment.

In 1999 I already had a pump driven Berlin skimmer and had moved on from any form of
air stone (wood chip) skimmer!

Geezzzzzzzzz -----"Lighten up, Francis"

[Zacktosterone]

The glass mount is perfectly fine. Only reason I didn't use it is because my tank is too wide for it

[shifty51008]

if you haven't already I would call Hamilton, they are very helpful and set you up with whatever your looking for

[ReefCowboy]

Originally Posted by GoVols

Welp, I guess you learned one thing after ten years.

Nothings gotten better except the many ways the industry has changed to take the consumer's money with sleek looking under preforming crap so you have to keep buying more sleek looking crap.

MH/T5 is still the GOLD standard in lighting!

LOL. MH's are great, we get it. Please dont generalize to all other equipment. Flow, return pumps were a joke compared to todays, and there are way more things to mention.
We cant argue that mailing a letter still gets the message through, but dont say emailing does not do it more efficiently

[GoVols]

Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

LOL. MH's are great, we get it. Please dont generalize to all other equipment. Flow, return pumps were a joke compared to todays, and there are way more things to mention.
We cant argue that mailing a letter still gets the message through, but dont say emailing does not do it more efficiently

Sorry... I was regarding lighting and nothing beats Kalk if can keep up with demand.

I apologize for that post that clearly reads like I has blanketing all new tech with one BIG Swipe.

My bad!!!!!

In no way would ANY of us want to go back to the early days, in over all equipment, tech and knowledge.

Hope u guys forgive me for that "Covers All" post!

[ReefCowboy]

Originally Posted by GoVols

Sorry... I was regarding lighting and nothing beats Kalk if can keep up with demand.

I apologize for that post that clearly reads like I has blanketing all new tech with one BIG Swipe.

My bad!!!!!

In no way would ANY of us want to go back to the early days, in over all equipment, tech and knowledge.

Hope u guys forgive me for that "Covers All" post!

No apologies needed, trust me many companies indeed are out there coming out constantly to get peoples $$ without anything to offer other than steal their trust. Ive been in those shoes many times!
Ive also always been a Mh guy and IMO they are indeed the Gold standard, like you said.
It took me long to risk it with leds, but gotta tell you, if it wasnt for the heat problems with the first ones, I would have stuck around with radium bulbs for years to come.

[GoVols]

Originally Posted by ReefCowboy

No apologies needed, trust me many companies indeed are out there coming out constantly to get peoples $$ without anything to offer other than steal their trust. Ive been in those shoes many times!
Ive also always been a Mh guy and IMO they are indeed the Gold standard, like you said.
It took me long to risk it with leds, but gotta tell you, if it wasnt for the heat problems with the first ones, I would have stuck around with radium bulbs for years to come.

Thanks, But an apology is fully appropriate especially to Greybeard!

I'm sorry Greybeard and I went WAY over board!

Yes! Greybeard, Led's can get it done, but there's "nothing wrong" with going back to plug and play MH/T5 and Kalk is still wonderful when used properly.

Regards, GoVols

[GoVols]

Added the MaxSpect Gyre XF130 last spring and Love it.

Got lucky and bought the 2nd version with better blade design and reliability.

The little guy hasn't skipped a beat. (knock on wood)

[Zacktosterone]

Originally Posted by GoVols

Sorry... I was regarding lighting and nothing beats Kalk if can keep up with demand.

I apologize for that post that clearly reads like I has blanketing all new tech with one BIG Swipe.

My bad!!!!!

In no way would ANY of us want to go back to the early days, in over all equipment, tech and knowledge.

Hope u guys forgive me for that "Covers All" post!

I got what you were saying I think some people are being ridiculous and almost on purpose

[morgank]

I have a Hamilton Cebu t5/halide combo on my rimless sixty cube, it stands in the rim with Theo units that came with it. Really nice light.

[morgank]

Originally Posted by morgank

I have a Hamilton Cebu t5/halide combo on my rimless sixty cube, it stands in the rim with Theo units that came with it. Really nice light.

[nursedude]

Curious to see how this all works out for ya! Post updates when you have it installed, please.

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by GoVols

I'm sorry Greybeard and I went WAY over board!

[Greybeard]

I may try the Halo mount, it's fairly secure... if the reflector seems too heavy, I'll bend a bit of conduit. Either way, should be fine.

BRS sent me a satisfaction questionnaire after they answered my weight question with '10 lbs'... and they caught me in a bad mood. I'm afraid I kinda let 'em have it

I'll be ordering the new light after the 1st. I'll post a pic

[Zacktosterone]

Originally Posted by Greybeard

I may try the Halo mount, it's fairly secure... if the reflector seems too heavy, I'll bend a bit of conduit. Either way, should be fine.

BRS sent me a satisfaction questionnaire after they answered my weight question with '10 lbs'... and they caught me in a bad mood. I'm afraid I kinda let 'em have it

I'll be ordering the new light after the 1st. I'll post a pic

Before you order from bulk reef supply Why not give dave at Hamilton technology a call since it's his product. Dave is a rock star when it comes to customer service. Also you should be upset when someone gives you an incorrect answer about a product they sell. I would be annoyed big time. I would rather hear "I don't know" than a nonsense answer just to get rid of me

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zacktosterone

I would rather hear "I don't know" than a nonsense answer just to get rid of me

That's exactly what I told them...

[Greybeard]

Ok, if anyone is interested, without bulb, and trying to keep the weight of the cord off of the scale, Hamilton's Bimini pendant weighs 2.8lbs on my scale.

And, with a bit if ingenuity, it hangs from the mount intended for the Aquaticlife Halo very well Mount constructed of a bit of aluminum flat bar, a couple bits of aluminum tubing for standoffs, and a few M4 stainless cap screws, washers, and nuts. Total cost, about $3. I did alter the reflector slightly, by drilling 2 small holes in the top to attach the mount. Natural aluminum now, I may spray it flat black, eventually.

Man, that's a lot of light

[Zacktosterone]

Originally Posted by greybeard

ok, if anyone is interested, without bulb, and trying to keep the weight of the cord off of the scale, hamilton's bimini pendant weighs 2.8lbs on my scale.

And, with a bit if ingenuity, it hangs from the mount intended for the aquaticlife halo very well mount constructed of a bit of aluminum flat bar, a couple bits of aluminum tubing for standoffs, and a few m4 stainless cap screws, washers, and nuts. Total cost, about $3. I did alter the reflector slightly, by drilling 2 small holes in the top to attach the mount. Natural aluminum now, i may spray it flat black, eventually.

Man, that's a lot of light

wowie

[moondoggy4]

I like the anti glare feature in that light.

[Zacktosterone]

Why not post a full tank shot

[Greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zacktosterone

Why not post a full tank shot

Because I'm dealing with an unrelated problem at the moment, and my tank looks like crap

[Zacktosterone]

Originally Posted by Greybeard

Because I'm dealing with an unrelated problem at the moment, and my tank looks like crap

Oh come on lol it's not a swim suit comp. When you get it under control let us know

[GQuinn]

How do you like the color of the Hamilton 14k on your tank?