Will anyone buy the $7500 fish? - Page 2

candymancan · 10/14/2018, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pfan151

Well obviously the ban must be pretty well enforced or you’d see them for sale all over the place.

who says they arent lol just because you dont see it online doesnt mean it isnt

nikon187 · 10/14/2018, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by candymancan

who says they arent lol just because you dont see it online doesnt mean it isnt

i run a fish store, trust me they arent.

candymancan · 10/14/2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon187

i run a fish store, trust me they arent.

That still doesnt mean anything lol. There are black markets for everything.

Rhino abd elephants horns are illegal yet still poached even though laws are enforced.. That doesnt stop people from killing them.

Whale hunting is banned yet that doesnt stop the Japanese from killing fir research.

Long clawed turtles were banned in Virginia yet a local pet store years ago used to sell them still.. Puppy mills are banned yet local pet stores still conduct illegal activity..

You wont stop it trust me

4x4cubereefer · 10/15/2018, 07:51 AM

no fish is worth over 7 grand i dont care how rare or the circumstances behind it.

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Daddyrawg · 10/15/2018, 12:29 PM

I bought it already, didn't QT has velvet/ich

pfan151 · 10/15/2018, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daddyrawg

I bought it already, didn't QT has velvet/ich

I know you’re joking but it’s still kind of crappy to post on a public forum that you bought a fish from an online vendor and it came in sick when you didn’t.

alton · 10/16/2018, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 4x4cubereefer

no fish is worth over 7 grand i dont care how rare or the circumstances behind it.

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I guess a $20,000 Peppermint is out of the question then?

pfan151 · 10/16/2018, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by alton

I guess a $20,000 Peppermint is out of the question then?

Do you know of anyone that has been able to keep a peppermint alive long term?

alton · 10/16/2018, 08:44 AM

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014...kiki-aquarium/
The above link is the only one that lived for some time. All the ones that where brought here a couple years ago perished but one in Florida. Not sure if it is still alive. Maybe Humaguy knows?

4x4cubereefer · 10/16/2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

I guess a $20,000 Peppermint is out of the question then?

Lol in Aussie dollars that's getting closer to 25k .. so id rather opt for a new ute unless of course this fish can breathe air/poops diamonds and I can walk it daily with a fishy bag I'm out !!

On a side note I have been seriously considering a gem tang for quite some time I'm thinking in the next 12 months once I upgrade to the 750 XXL I'll pull the pin on one but even the gem tangs are a hell of a chunk of

I'll more then likely cry though if it doesn't make it through QT

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alton · 10/16/2018, 03:01 PM

Anybody that is thinking about sneaking fish into the us may want to read and remember this
http://aquanerd.com/2011/08/collecto...angelfish.html

4x4cubereefer · 10/16/2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by alton

Anybody that is thinking about sneaking fish into the us may want to read and remember this
http://aquanerd.com/2011/08/collecto...angelfish.html

If only he got away with it .. what a pay day it would've been.
He needed a submarine or seaplane lol.

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alton · 10/16/2018, 03:12 PM

He actually got off pretty cheap like $2,000 fine and a year supervised out of prison watch? The individual was a nice guy and participated here on RC quite often with information, he just made a bad mistake.

4x4cubereefer · 10/16/2018, 04:56 PM

to be honest i dont think he did something thats really that wrong i mean ok 40 fish is excessive but he just did what the actual collector does in different circumstances .. with the collector being "allowed" to do it .. i mean like with the way things are going here in australia we will be lucky to be able too wipe our own *** in the next 10 years .. hell if i had the means to try it and potentially make 200k wholesale id consider it too .. not gonna lie .. thats a lot of money.

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Originally Posted by alton

He actually got off pretty cheap like $2,000 fine and a year supervised out of prison watch? The individual was a nice guy and participated here on RC quite often with information, he just made a bad mistake.

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nikon187 · 10/17/2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by candymancan

That still doesnt mean anything lol. There are black markets for everything.

Rhino abd elephants horns are illegal yet still poached even though laws are enforced.. That doesnt stop people from killing them.

Whale hunting is banned yet that doesnt stop the Japanese from killing fir research.

Long clawed turtles were banned in Virginia yet a local pet store years ago used to sell them still.. Puppy mills are banned yet local pet stores still conduct illegal activity..

You wont stop it trust me

and you see all these in stores for sale? cuz thats what we were talking about not whether they were collected. READ

Brieninsac · 10/17/2018, 02:24 PM

I'd be a nervous wreck sleeping by my QT if I bought a fish that expensive.

albano · 10/17/2018, 03:49 PM

Missed ~25% off yesterday

4x4cubereefer · 10/17/2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brieninsac

I'd be a nervous wreck sleeping by my QT if I bought a fish that expensive.

lol id have it strapped to my chest with solar panels on my back XD

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4x4cubereefer · 10/17/2018, 05:46 PM

& you need to respond like an asshat ?,
cuz thats what nobody in this thread was doing.
MUTUAL RESPECT

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Originally Posted by nikon187

and you see all these in stores for sale? cuz thats what we were talking about not whether they were collected. READ

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o2manyfish · 10/17/2018, 11:59 PM

The Clarion Angels are only found in one very small region. There is a small window when collection permits are granted. The weather and seas in getting to the location are very treacherous most of the year. The location is extremely remote and can only be accessed by boat. Depending on who you talk to the boat ride is 3-8 days each direction. For the past 30 years there is usually only one or 2 'collections' of Clarions. When they come in they come in in all sizes. The are beautiful as juveniles, and less attractive (in most peoples opinions) when adults. They are tough fish - Both in terms of being hardy and in terms of being aggressive. These are equivalent of Passer angels. For anyone talking about the ridiculousness of the price. Everything has extremes. You can buy a used Yugo for $500 and drive to work. But when you get to work someone in the parking lot is going to have a Tesla (200x the price) a Bentley (400x the price) or even a Ford 150 Platinum edition (Almost $100k for a truck). Just because the price doesn't fit into your budget it doesn't mean it's not there for someone else.

Clarions at the wild caught Price Point don't sit at the wholesalers for long.

I have a friend with (3) Personatus, a Debellius, and an Abei.

I also am friends with 2 people who have Peppermints (multiples) doing well for more than 3 years.

At least with a Clarion you are talking about a really strong fish. Put it in a tank and it's going to adjust quickly, become the boss quickly and live a very long time. It's probably one of the safer expensive fish out their because they are so tough.

Dave B

albano · 10/18/2018, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by o2manyfish

I also am friends with 2 people who have Peppermints (multiples) doing well for more than 3 years.

You need to post a video of that!!!
Also, where can I find a good used Yugo?

pfan151 · 10/18/2018, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by albano

You need to post a video of that!!!
Also, where can I find a good used Yugo?

Ha. Well I don’t know that you could ever find a good yugo, but they actually have a cult collector following now and cost a decent amount of money. Most I have seen cost more than they did new.

Fish559 · 10/18/2018, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by o2manyfish

I also am friends with 2 people who have Peppermints (multiples) doing well for more than 3 years.

d-man · 10/18/2018, 01:50 PM

No, there are a couple in private aquaria from the last batch that are still alive. Well at least a couple months ago they were. And they were more around the $30k mark

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Originally Posted by alton

https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014...kiki-aquarium/
The above link is the only one that lived for some time. All the ones that where brought here a couple years ago perished but one in Florida. Not sure if it is still alive. Maybe Humaguy knows?

d-man · 10/18/2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by o2manyfish

The Clarion Angels are only found in one very small region. There is a small window when collection permits are granted. The weather and seas in getting to the location are very treacherous most of the year. The location is extremely remote and can only be accessed by boat. Depending on who you talk to the boat ride is 3-8 days each direction. For the past 30 years there is usually only one or 2 'collections' of Clarions. When they come in they come in in all sizes. The are beautiful as juveniles, and less attractive (in most peoples opinions) when adults. They are tough fish - Both in terms of being hardy and in terms of being aggressive. These are equivalent of Passer angels. For anyone talking about the ridiculousness of the price. Everything has extremes. You can buy a used Yugo for $500 and drive to work. But when you get to work someone in the parking lot is going to have a Tesla (200x the price) a Bentley (400x the price) or even a Ford 150 Platinum edition (Almost $100k for a truck). Just because the price doesn't fit into your budget it doesn't mean it's not there for someone else.

Clarions at the wild caught Price Point don't sit at the wholesalers for long.

I have a friend with (3) Personatus, a Debellius, and an Abei.

I also am friends with 2 people who have Peppermints (multiples) doing well for more than 3 years.

At least with a Clarion you are talking about a really strong fish. Put it in a tank and it's going to adjust quickly, become the boss quickly and live a very long time. It's probably one of the safer expensive fish out their because they are so tough.

Dave B

Spot on Dave.
I do actually like them as adults, albeit their color isn’t as intense as you stated but still nice contrast. But as stated, they are too mean for my taste and way out of my budget but if I had the money that was disposable to that degree I’d probably do one

10/17/2018, 02:24 PM	#41
Brieninsac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 782	I'd be a nervous wreck sleeping by my QT if I bought a fish that expensive. __________________ Red Sea Reefer 350 (73gal/18gal sump) / Kessil a360WE Lights

10/17/2018, 03:49 PM	#42
albano SALTWATER since '73 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Katonah, NY/ San Fernando Ca./ Sea Isle City NJ Posts: 6,210	Missed ~25% off yesterday __________________ ______________________________________ Jan. '11 TOTM Manhattan Reefs Current Tank Info: 500g & 200g acrylic DTs/2 separate reef systems

10/17/2018, 11:59 PM	#45
o2manyfish Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Encino, CA Posts: 6,199	The Clarion Angels are only found in one very small region. There is a small window when collection permits are granted. The weather and seas in getting to the location are very treacherous most of the year. The location is extremely remote and can only be accessed by boat. Depending on who you talk to the boat ride is 3-8 days each direction. For the past 30 years there is usually only one or 2 'collections' of Clarions. When they come in they come in in all sizes. The are beautiful as juveniles, and less attractive (in most peoples opinions) when adults. They are tough fish - Both in terms of being hardy and in terms of being aggressive. These are equivalent of Passer angels. For anyone talking about the ridiculousness of the price. Everything has extremes. You can buy a used Yugo for $500 and drive to work. But when you get to work someone in the parking lot is going to have a Tesla (200x the price) a Bentley (400x the price) or even a Ford 150 Platinum edition (Almost $100k for a truck). Just because the price doesn't fit into your budget it doesn't mean it's not there for someone else. Clarions at the wild caught Price Point don't sit at the wholesalers for long. I have a friend with (3) Personatus, a Debellius, and an Abei. I also am friends with 2 people who have Peppermints (multiples) doing well for more than 3 years. At least with a Clarion you are talking about a really strong fish. Put it in a tank and it's going to adjust quickly, become the boss quickly and live a very long time. It's probably one of the safer expensive fish out their because they are so tough. Dave B __________________ 560g Display. 1500g System Volume. (2) 180g Outdoor Frag Tanks. 340g Sump, 30g 2 story surge tank. Dasatco EXT 9. Bubble King Skimmer. Ozone. UV. 5' Fluidized Sand Filter. Avast Kalk Mixer. Current Tank Info: 560g SPS Dominant Reef / 1500g Total System

10/15/2018, 07:51 AM	#29
4x4cubereefer Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 53	no fish is worth over 7 grand i dont care how rare or the circumstances behind it. Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk

10/15/2018, 12:29 PM	#30
Daddyrawg Registered Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 814	I bought it already, didn't QT has velvet/ich

10/16/2018, 08:44 AM	#34
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	https://www.reef2rainforest.com/2014...kiki-aquarium/ The above link is the only one that lived for some time. All the ones that where brought here a couple years ago perished but one in Florida. Not sure if it is still alive. Maybe Humaguy knows?

10/16/2018, 03:01 PM	#36
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	Anybody that is thinking about sneaking fish into the us may want to read and remember this http://aquanerd.com/2011/08/collecto...angelfish.html

10/16/2018, 03:12 PM	#38
alton Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zuehl, Texas Posts: 4,460	He actually got off pretty cheap like $2,000 fine and a year supervised out of prison watch? The individual was a nice guy and participated here on RC quite often with information, he just made a bad mistake.