Pictures of Bomber's barebottom SPS tank and related equipment - Page 2

traip93 · 01/02/2004, 02:32 PM

BOOMER, uggg BOMBER...

What is the eggcrate in the sump for?

Looks great, those day light pics are a lot better then those Space (dark) picks....

Good job!!!

Shoestring Reefer · 01/02/2004, 03:22 PM

Really, the tank is so clear, I wasn't sure it was filled until I saw fish.

Bomber · 01/02/2004, 05:48 PM

Shane,

The tanks got a glass brace around the bottom, so the Starboard is recessed into it. I'm going to look into those lights - Thanks! You know I know diddly about equipment and brands.

Quote:

Originally posted by MiddletonMark
what do you do for Calcium/Alk replentishing on this system?
What's you opinion on that blue chromis?

Mark

I use calcium chloride and baking soda.
Blue chromis are real delicate when small, when big they are tough as nails. I've only had this guy by himself, they tend to fight each other but nothing else.

Quote:

Originally posted by photobarry
Jeesh Jerel, those snails in there look like they have nothing to do. What type of blenny is that?

LOL now you're feeling sorry for the snails!

They have plenty to do.
Don't have a clue on the blenny yet. Angus caught it in the Bahamas and so far it has no name.

Quote:

Originally posted by traip93
BOOMER, uggg BOMBER...What is the eggcrate in the sump for?

I slows the flow down just enough for some of the heavier detritus to settle.

Clean and clean is good for SPS. These guys are growing over a inch a month.

Doug, finally a picture so I can show you that skimmer!

MiddletonMark · 01/02/2004, 06:02 PM

Did you ever outline all the names of your critters on a thread?

I'd love an intro to all of them - every now and then I see one referred to by name, but without the fish/coral type associated I'm lost

And I do love that they're all named, for some reason I want to name mine and have yet to ...

InsaneClownFish · 01/02/2004, 07:27 PM

Bomber those look like some really healthy fish...sheesh...I wonder why...

jackson6745 · 01/02/2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joeychitwood
Why are your halides only on for 2 hours a day?

Beautiful tank, by the way!

Why are the MH's on for only 2hrs daily?

Nek · 01/02/2004, 08:26 PM

" Pictures of Bomber's barebottom ......."

Bomber · 01/02/2004, 08:42 PM

Mark I'll get you a list of names in the morning, and yes, they are all named. LOL
I'll give you one now. The big old long spine urchin is Doug.

Thanks ICF

The lights are on for two hours cause that's all they need.

Bomber · 01/02/2004, 08:43 PM

Nek you don't know the half of it, Greg was going to title it >

Pictures of Jerel's Equipment

Flameangel · 01/02/2004, 09:23 PM

I think the tank looks awesome!! It is wonderfully unique. I think a comment in a different thread was Frank Lloyd Wright + Reef = Starboard reef.

But I did not see the Queen Angel?? Was she just hiding or did she have to go back to the ocean?

Thanks for sharing!
Connie

jackson6745 · 01/03/2004, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bomber

The lights are on for two hours cause that's all they need.

I never heard that before. Could you please elaborate.... Not trying to argue, just trying to understand why

melev · 01/03/2004, 03:13 AM

Very interesting. Thanks for the pictures.

Putawaywet · 01/03/2004, 07:01 AM

For some strange reason I'm sitting here chuckling to myself. But I share Jerel's position on DSB's so I think he'll understand

Any chance you can really turn this hobby on it's ear and run that puppy skimmerless? I'd be ROTFLMAO if you could find a way to pull that one off. Think of the fun that would be had.

Seriously though, a mighty fine job working outside the "box".
I was another that actually thought I was looking at a tank without water in it. It looks so unbelievably clear in there that it's hard to believe my eyes.

Brett

gregt · 01/03/2004, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Any chance you can really turn this hobby on it's ear and run that puppy skimmerless?

No. BB tanks work on the principle of "remove the waste before it breaks down". Without a large enough - well operating skimmer, BB will have problems with nitrate and phosphates. The whole point is to not keep poop as a pet.

Putawaywet · 01/03/2004, 07:09 AM

I know, but it would make for some interesting arguments on the difinitive way to set up a tank.

sps si · 01/03/2004, 07:44 AM

it certainly is bare

nice looking tank though - how long has it been running and what is your rock structure built up on?

MiddletonMark · 01/03/2004, 07:56 AM

That white bottom is `starboard' ... very similar to cutting board material, but the stuff he's using is actually from boating-uses.

The thread detailing this setup [and eventually a number of places to get this material, other folks who used it in different colors] ... is at:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ight=starboard

---

And Gregt is dead on with the skimmer - BB's main requirement is getting the detritus/etc out of the tank ASAP.

Unlike a DSB, which is `sinking' and storing the detritus, poop, food residue, phosphates ... BB is base on a high-flow, detritus-suspension, wet-skimming removal of all such products from the tank as quick as possible.
This quickly removes all phoshphates from the system ... and will get other compounds gone before they have a chance to break down [instead of dealing with nitrate reduction, this removes things before they have a chance to break down and cause nitrates ... or at worst while they're in the process of such].

Key to this all is the big, efficient skimmer ... as it's the main `removal' technique for all this crud. I find dumping my skimmer cup in my toilet is the best method for `processing' phosphates and nitrates ... far better than leaving them in the tank [for algae/etc to go to work on].

invincible569 · 01/03/2004, 07:56 AM

I love the clean and ogranized look! It looks awesome! Cant wait to see it when the SPS have encrusted and grown out. Keep us updated

Bomber · 01/03/2004, 11:25 AM

Connie, Malcomb finally met his maker. I have to tell you, as much as I loved Malcomb, it had become his tank and I will never have another big angel in it.

jackson, all they need is to get excited for the processes to take place. I'm not trying to reduce zoox for color, I'm going for growth.

PAW I think we're already there. I don't see any earth shattering equipment changes coming to reduce nutrients in closed systems. Going skimmerless would be going backwards and back to the days of Lee and the "Natural Aquarium". No one could keep his systems running either because of nutrient/phosphate build up.

Mark's right. Where do nitrates come from? It you remove it before it gets there, why would you have nitrates?

Bomber · 01/03/2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by invincible569
I love the clean and ogranized look! It looks awesome! Cant wait to see it when the SPS have encrusted and grown out. Keep us updated

Take a closer look at the picture of the blenny.

The rocks are getting encrusted with corals already.

Nek · 01/03/2004, 11:28 AM

Do you notice a salinity constantly fluctuating with the wet skimming????

Bomber · 01/03/2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nek
Do you notice a salinity constantly fluctuating with the wet skimming????

Nek why would it fluctuate?

I take out about a 1/2gal of skimmate a day. Most of the time I just add RO/DI for evaporation. About once a month I'll test for salinity and bump it back up by adding salt water instead of RO/DI to replace evaporation.

In a month it will drop to around 1.023-4 from 1.025.

joeychitwood · 01/03/2004, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nek
" Pictures of Bomber's barebottom ......."

No. That would be this:

BoomerD · 01/03/2004, 01:13 PM

joeychitwood, well done!

melev · 01/03/2004, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joeychitwood
No. That would be this:

ROFLMAO!!!!

01/02/2004, 03:22 PM	#27
Shoestring Reefer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Westerly, RI Posts: 4,989	Really, the tank is so clear, I wasn't sure it was filled until I saw fish. __________________ Mike Reefcentral Folding@Home team 37251 - Click my little red house to learn more and help medical science! Current Tank Info: 2, 20-gal low tech tanks

01/02/2004, 06:02 PM	#29
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	Did you ever outline all the names of your critters on a thread? I'd love an intro to all of them - every now and then I see one referred to by name, but without the fish/coral type associated I'm lost And I do love that they're all named, for some reason I want to name mine and have yet to ... __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

01/02/2004, 07:27 PM	#30
InsaneClownFish Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,069	Bomber those look like some really healthy fish...sheesh...I wonder why... __________________ 7 Years Reefing and Many Fresh 8 Foot Envisions

01/02/2004, 08:26 PM	#32
Nek Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My office chair Posts: 2,036	" Pictures of Bomber's barebottom ......." __________________ The Institute for Incomplete Studies found that 3 out of 4 Current Tank Info: 120 in wall in progress

01/03/2004, 07:01 AM	#38
Putawaywet 20 and over club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA. Posts: 2,720	For some strange reason I'm sitting here chuckling to myself. But I share Jerel's position on DSB's so I think he'll understand Any chance you can really turn this hobby on it's ear and run that puppy skimmerless? I'd be ROTFLMAO if you could find a way to pull that one off. Think of the fun that would be had. Seriously though, a mighty fine job working outside the "box". I was another that actually thought I was looking at a tank without water in it. It looks so unbelievably clear in there that it's hard to believe my eyes. Brett Last edited by Putawaywet; 01/03/2004 at 07:09 AM.

01/02/2004, 02:32 PM	#26
traip93 Moved On Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Auburn, Georgia Posts: 1,140	BOOMER, uggg BOMBER... What is the eggcrate in the sump for? Looks great, those day light pics are a lot better then those Space (dark) picks.... Good job!!!

01/02/2004, 08:42 PM	#33
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Mark I'll get you a list of names in the morning, and yes, they are all named. LOL I'll give you one now. The big old long spine urchin is Doug. Thanks ICF The lights are on for two hours cause that's all they need.

01/02/2004, 08:43 PM	#34
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Nek you don't know the half of it, Greg was going to title it > Pictures of Jerel's Equipment

01/02/2004, 09:23 PM	#35
Flameangel Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 660	I think the tank looks awesome!! It is wonderfully unique. I think a comment in a different thread was Frank Lloyd Wright + Reef = Starboard reef. But I did not see the Queen Angel?? Was she just hiding or did she have to go back to the ocean? Thanks for sharing! Connie

01/03/2004, 03:13 AM	#37
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Very interesting. Thanks for the pictures.

01/03/2004, 07:09 AM	#40
Putawaywet 20 and over club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA. Posts: 2,720	I know, but it would make for some interesting arguments on the difinitive way to set up a tank.

01/03/2004, 07:44 AM	#41
sps si Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Norfolk, U.K Posts: 163	it certainly is bare nice looking tank though - how long has it been running and what is your rock structure built up on? __________________ - simon Current Tank Info: 260g sps dominated reef, 4 x 400w 10k, lots of fish

01/03/2004, 07:56 AM	#42
MiddletonMark Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 14,441	That white bottom is `starboard' ... very similar to cutting board material, but the stuff he's using is actually from boating-uses. The thread detailing this setup [and eventually a number of places to get this material, other folks who used it in different colors] ... is at: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ight=starboard --- And Gregt is dead on with the skimmer - BB's main requirement is getting the detritus/etc out of the tank ASAP. Unlike a DSB, which is `sinking' and storing the detritus, poop, food residue, phosphates ... BB is base on a high-flow, detritus-suspension, wet-skimming removal of all such products from the tank as quick as possible. This quickly removes all phoshphates from the system ... and will get other compounds gone before they have a chance to break down [instead of dealing with nitrate reduction, this removes things before they have a chance to break down and cause nitrates ... or at worst while they're in the process of such]. Key to this all is the big, efficient skimmer ... as it's the main `removal' technique for all this crud. I find dumping my skimmer cup in my toilet is the best method for `processing' phosphates and nitrates ... far better than leaving them in the tank [for algae/etc to go to work on]. __________________ read a lot, think for yourself Current Tank Info: 58g stony reef [250w10k, 250w 20k MH, 2x vho act, Octopus150, 6060 + 6000] ; 60g mixed tub

01/03/2004, 07:56 AM	#43
invincible569 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,715	I love the clean and ogranized look! It looks awesome! Cant wait to see it when the SPS have encrusted and grown out. Keep us updated

01/03/2004, 11:25 AM	#44
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Connie, Malcomb finally met his maker. I have to tell you, as much as I loved Malcomb, it had become his tank and I will never have another big angel in it. jackson, all they need is to get excited for the processes to take place. I'm not trying to reduce zoox for color, I'm going for growth. PAW I think we're already there. I don't see any earth shattering equipment changes coming to reduce nutrients in closed systems. Going skimmerless would be going backwards and back to the days of Lee and the "Natural Aquarium". No one could keep his systems running either because of nutrient/phosphate build up. Mark's right. Where do nitrates come from? It you remove it before it gets there, why would you have nitrates?

01/03/2004, 11:28 AM	#46
Nek Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My office chair Posts: 2,036	Do you notice a salinity constantly fluctuating with the wet skimming???? __________________ The Institute for Incomplete Studies found that 3 out of 4 Current Tank Info: 120 in wall in progress

01/03/2004, 01:13 PM	#49
BoomerD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,208	joeychitwood, well done! __________________ If you ain't cheatin, You ain't tryin!