EuroReef Club - Page 2

jnb · 03/22/2005, 08:20 PM

yes but i am looking for auto shutoff - yours has never overflowed - good for you - and a little surprising - I thought everyone experienced this which I understood had nothing to do with how clean the skimmer is

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Originally posted by jimdogg187
You can add an overflow drain to the collection cup. ER does an upgrade and there are some threads in the DIY forum. Mine has never had this problem, but I also clean it twice a week so it performs better. Jim

Jim_S · 03/23/2005, 12:25 AM

I meant my collection cup has never overflowed. I never let the skimmate get close to filling it. But yes, my skimmer has never gone "crazy" and overflowed. If anything, when I feed the fish, the skimmer level drops below the collection cup. I don't think you'll have a problem if you don't add foaming agents to the water but if you want an auto shut off, then maybe someone can help.

georgiajams · 03/23/2005, 06:35 AM

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are any of the new euroreef skimmeers sealed such that you can use the more avaiable auto shut off waste collectors - how do you guys manage possible oveerflows due to the occasional skimmer going crazy?

You don't need the "auto shut off" collector. Just get a sealed collector (e.g. as simple as a milk jug with the area where the tube comes in being sealed). In the worst case scenario, the collector will fill up and the cup will fill up. Any more skimmate produced will just flow back down the neck (e.g. which is no worse than not having a skimmer at all).

This has been said before, but IMO, I think the collectors are only useful if you are really skimming wet. That is, you should be cleaning your ER *at least* once a week for better skimming.

jnb · 03/23/2005, 07:21 AM

the skimmers cup will fill up, the milk jug will start to fill up until there is pressure in the jug causing the overflow spew to want to make its way out the path of least resistance which in my cs 6-1 case is the top of the skimmers collector starts lifting up which then the bubbles, etc start to make a mess - unless the external ER skimmers have a sealed top which was a question as part of my original post - this has been said and I do keep my skimmer clean too

if you look back you will see that many er users and I can only assume other skimmers sometimes for crazy for unexplained reasons - yes I know epoxy, treatments, etc, etc can cause a skimmer to go crazy and that is predicitable so one can be around to manage it - but sometimes there is an unexplained event in the tank which can when you are not home that can cause it to go crazy which leds to my trying to find a solution - and I wanted one to cut the skimmer off

at this point I will find my solution myself but I thought I would suggest for people who have not experienced this that it does and/or could happen

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Originally posted by georgiajams
You don't need the "auto shut off" collector. Just get a sealed collector (e.g. as simple as a milk jug with the area where the tube comes in being sealed). In the worst case scenario, the collector will fill up and the cup will fill up. Any more skimmate produced will just flow back down the neck (e.g. which is no worse than not having a skimmer at all).

This has been said before, but IMO, I think the collectors are only useful if you are really skimming wet. That is, you should be cleaning your ER *at least* once a week for better skimming.

georgiajams · 03/23/2005, 07:52 AM

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skimmers collector starts lifting up which then the bubbles, etc start to make a mess

OK, well, yeah. I've had a few bubbles spew out the top, but not enough to make what I'd consider a mess. If I was running the system outside my sump maybe I'd be more concenred that it might happen in the future. No matter what happens you aren't going to get gallons of skimmate on the floor or anything.

I've had my ERs for about a year now and haven't had any disasters, so maybe I'm just not as conscious of the concern. I don't run any extra collectors either... so mine fills up even faster.

jnb · 03/23/2005, 08:09 AM

I agree not too bad if it happens except I had some of the bubbles pop throwing up some light mist (salty) close to some 110 volts and I hate to see dry salt anywhere - I learned my lesson, with respect to salt water conductivity when I was young by peeing on an outside 110Volt receptacle

ledford1 · 03/23/2005, 05:24 PM

I've been running a CS8-3 for two months, but am now starting to cure LR. Can you explain to me about adjusting the riser arm? If I understand correctly, the higher the riser tube, the wetter the foam is?

Also, as I am curing, any suggestions on what ype of foam I should go for? I was thinking that the wettest foam would be best, trying to catch as much waste as possible.

Thanks.

SHOW ANGELS · 03/23/2005, 06:04 PM

arconom · 03/23/2005, 06:18 PM

Yes the higher you go the wetter the foam.

buddie · 03/23/2005, 07:00 PM

can someone tell me the difference between the cs8-3 and the rs8-3 ,and is the price different , and is $500.00 a good deal on a new one

SunnyX · 03/23/2005, 07:36 PM

Ok guys, what skimmer for a 225gl?

fragn'stein · 03/24/2005, 12:00 AM

My CS 5-2 will be here tomarrow. I can hardly wait. I've been waiting almost 3 months now, well a week since I ordered, but 3 months budgeting.

I can finally get rid of my POS Prism and air powered skimmers.

Jim_S · 03/24/2005, 02:43 AM

Sunnyx,
I would look into a CS12-1RC or higher, but I like the idea of over-skimming. And also it matters what type of tank/filtration your gonna run.

Buddy,
CS is now the Computer Store model and the RS is the Retail Store model. They are both made of cast acrylic and use the same pumps. However, the CS uses higher grade bonds and different fittings. I'm not sure about pricing on the 8-3 models. I wanted one but the they're just too tall for my stand, so I ordered CS8-2RC beta last week and it was in the ball park of $600. I think it was discounted because it is a test skimmer though. Jim

radone · 03/24/2005, 08:52 AM

Could someone in here tell me the size of thier pump. The 5000 or the 9000. Any footprint dimensions on the 8-3?

ledford1 · 03/24/2005, 09:12 AM

radone, I ordered my CS8-3 from Marine Depot. It has specs at the MD Web site. Height is concern for many with this one, but I knew I wanted this skimmer beforehand and had the stand bulit accordingly.

fragn'stein · 03/24/2005, 11:57 PM

My CS 5-2 came in today. I can't believe the foam it produces. I can't wait for it to break in and start producing some good scunge. I'll post some pics tomarrow.

Lunchbucket · 03/25/2005, 06:27 AM

fragn'stein - glad to hear you got it FINALLY. waiting to get the money and then the week it ships is the worste part IMO. get a new pic of your pride and joy.

i know when i upgraded from a super reef devil (SRD) to my ES5-2 i was completely BLOWN away. this was right when the 5 series came out. such a great little skimmer and for the price you can't beat it!!!

oh smell your skimmate when you get a nice dark good amount of it...then tell us how much you love your ER.

Lunchbucket

greenfroggiespawn · 03/25/2005, 02:26 PM

I have a es5-3 and it comes w/ the stock sedra. I however want to very much upgrade the pump to something stronger. I have in my 2-3 years w/ my ER never have over flow or anything like that.

I did a search and even posted in the ER section a while back, but no replies or anything.

So any help? Should i wait for this new 'beta pump' or what? What shoudl I do.

arconom · 03/25/2005, 02:31 PM

To my understanding the Beta pump in final production will replace the 5000 & 9000 model Sendra. Also I think they will only bundle it with the CS8 line and up.

I am testing a Beta pump on a CS6-2 Recirc. You will see I have the air intake throttled back and gatevalve opened all the way.

VERY detailed photos

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=557746

greenfroggiespawn · 03/25/2005, 02:33 PM

Yes I found and posted there too. I guess by the jest of it, ES5-3 is stuck w/ no upgrades that is w/ the newer pump.

Lunchbucket · 03/25/2005, 05:27 PM

hmm didn't know they were distributing the beta pumps yet...... i'll have to get on that

Lunchbucket

reefkeeper1 · 03/25/2005, 06:35 PM

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I've been running a CS8-3 for two months, but am now starting to cure LR. Can you explain to me about adjusting the riser arm? If I understand correctly, the higher the riser tube, the wetter the foam is?

Ledford, if you want a really wet foam, buy or put together a gate valve mod for your Euro-Reef. It allows you to really raise the level of the water column in your skimmer:

fragn'stein · 03/25/2005, 07:16 PM

Here's a pic of my CS5-2 running.

As you can see it has a while to go before it breaks in. Notice the large bubbles in the neck. Did you new ER users have large bubble at the beginning?

lmattix · 03/26/2005, 12:42 PM

I am glad you posted that picture. I just bought a CS 6-2+ and set it up today. I have large bubbles in the neck too. I want to know if that is normal during the break-in, too. What about it ER old-timers?

Larry

California Man · 03/26/2005, 12:56 PM

Two questions for all you profrssionals out there. I purchased my CS6+2 for my 75 gallon tank. will this be suffient for a 75 gallon tank heavily stocked? I am getting alot of wet foam and no dry foam. Is this normal? Or how would I get dry foam... do I have to raise the skimmer?

03/23/2005, 12:25 AM	#27
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	I meant my collection cup has never overflowed. I never let the skimmate get close to filling it. But yes, my skimmer has never gone "crazy" and overflowed. If anything, when I feed the fish, the skimmer level drops below the collection cup. I don't think you'll have a problem if you don't add foaming agents to the water but if you want an auto shut off, then maybe someone can help. __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs. Last edited by Jim_S; 03/23/2005 at 12:39 AM.

03/23/2005, 07:00 PM	#35
buddie Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: mass Posts: 274	can someone tell me the difference between the cs8-3 and the rs8-3 ,and is the price different , and is $500.00 a good deal on a new one __________________ 350 in wall starfire sps reef Current Tank Info: 350 in wall sps/lps tank

03/24/2005, 02:43 AM	#38
Jim_S Timo Boll Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,333	Sunnyx, I would look into a CS12-1RC or higher, but I like the idea of over-skimming. And also it matters what type of tank/filtration your gonna run. Buddy, CS is now the Computer Store model and the RS is the Retail Store model. They are both made of cast acrylic and use the same pumps. However, the CS uses higher grade bonds and different fittings. I'm not sure about pricing on the 8-3 models. I wanted one but the they're just too tall for my stand, so I ordered CS8-2RC beta last week and it was in the ball park of $600. I think it was discounted because it is a test skimmer though. Jim __________________ We will survive in this world of competition, shooting guns and our ammunition... Bradley Nowell Current Tank Info: We're recreating the ocean in our livings rooms. With that said, I've had some ups and downs.

03/25/2005, 06:27 AM	#42
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	fragn'stein - glad to hear you got it FINALLY. waiting to get the money and then the week it ships is the worste part IMO. get a new pic of your pride and joy. i know when i upgraded from a super reef devil (SRD) to my ES5-2 i was completely BLOWN away. this was right when the 5 series came out. such a great little skimmer and for the price you can't beat it!!! oh smell your skimmate when you get a nice dark good amount of it...then tell us how much you love your ER. Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

03/25/2005, 05:27 PM	#46
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	hmm didn't know they were distributing the beta pumps yet...... i'll have to get on that Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

03/23/2005, 08:09 AM	#31
jnb Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: S.E. Florida Deerfield Beach Posts: 2,581	I agree not too bad if it happens except I had some of the bubbles pop throwing up some light mist (salty) close to some 110 volts and I hate to see dry salt anywhere - I learned my lesson, with respect to salt water conductivity when I was young by peeing on an outside 110Volt receptacle

03/23/2005, 05:24 PM	#32
ledford1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 2,241	I've been running a CS8-3 for two months, but am now starting to cure LR. Can you explain to me about adjusting the riser arm? If I understand correctly, the higher the riser tube, the wetter the foam is? Also, as I am curing, any suggestions on what ype of foam I should go for? I was thinking that the wettest foam would be best, trying to catch as much waste as possible. Thanks.

03/23/2005, 06:04 PM	#33
SHOW ANGELS Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Posts: 363

03/23/2005, 06:18 PM	#34
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	Yes the higher you go the wetter the foam.

03/23/2005, 07:36 PM	#36
SunnyX Moved On Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Michigan Posts: 4,991	Ok guys, what skimmer for a 225gl?

03/24/2005, 12:00 AM	#37
fragn'stein Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rathdrum ID. Posts: 162	My CS 5-2 will be here tomarrow. I can hardly wait. I've been waiting almost 3 months now, well a week since I ordered, but 3 months budgeting. I can finally get rid of my POS Prism and air powered skimmers.

03/24/2005, 08:52 AM	#39
radone Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,167	Could someone in here tell me the size of thier pump. The 5000 or the 9000. Any footprint dimensions on the 8-3?

03/24/2005, 09:12 AM	#40
ledford1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 2,241	radone, I ordered my CS8-3 from Marine Depot. It has specs at the MD Web site. Height is concern for many with this one, but I knew I wanted this skimmer beforehand and had the stand bulit accordingly.

03/24/2005, 11:57 PM	#41
fragn'stein Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rathdrum ID. Posts: 162	My CS 5-2 came in today. I can't believe the foam it produces. I can't wait for it to break in and start producing some good scunge. I'll post some pics tomarrow.

03/25/2005, 02:26 PM	#43
greenfroggiespawn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: coral st. Posts: 751	I have a es5-3 and it comes w/ the stock sedra. I however want to very much upgrade the pump to something stronger. I have in my 2-3 years w/ my ER never have over flow or anything like that. I did a search and even posted in the ER section a while back, but no replies or anything. So any help? Should i wait for this new 'beta pump' or what? What shoudl I do.

03/25/2005, 02:31 PM	#44
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	To my understanding the Beta pump in final production will replace the 5000 & 9000 model Sendra. Also I think they will only bundle it with the CS8 line and up. I am testing a Beta pump on a CS6-2 Recirc. You will see I have the air intake throttled back and gatevalve opened all the way. VERY detailed photos http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=557746

03/25/2005, 02:33 PM	#45
greenfroggiespawn Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: coral st. Posts: 751	Yes I found and posted there too. I guess by the jest of it, ES5-3 is stuck w/ no upgrades that is w/ the newer pump.

03/25/2005, 07:16 PM	#48
fragn'stein Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rathdrum ID. Posts: 162	Here's a pic of my CS5-2 running. As you can see it has a while to go before it breaks in. Notice the large bubbles in the neck. Did you new ER users have large bubble at the beginning?

03/26/2005, 12:42 PM	#49
lmattix Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 215	I am glad you posted that picture. I just bought a CS 6-2+ and set it up today. I have large bubbles in the neck too. I want to know if that is normal during the break-in, too. What about it ER old-timers? Larry

03/26/2005, 12:56 PM	#50
California Man Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 234	Two questions for all you profrssionals out there. I purchased my CS6+2 for my 75 gallon tank. will this be suffient for a 75 gallon tank heavily stocked? I am getting alot of wet foam and no dry foam. Is this normal? Or how would I get dry foam... do I have to raise the skimmer?