My New Black Tang!!!!!!!!! - Page 2

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 08:21 PM

thank you aquareeferman. i have also heard of pimafix. could i use that, because my lfs carries that. also, is that stuff known to be reef safe?

supertech3 · 02/16/2006, 08:30 PM

Hopefully you can quarantine him, look at this site for disease
www.seahorse-nw.com

MyMonkey · 02/16/2006, 08:33 PM

How do you tell a Scopas from a Black Tang?

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 08:35 PM

the TRUE BLACK TANG has a green line that follows his lateral line that runs the entire length of his body. it is right below his top fin. before i take him out and treat him, are we sure that it is a fungus? and can i use pimafix?

iannozzi · 02/16/2006, 08:41 PM

ANOTHER TRIED AND TRUE REMEDY IN QUICK FIX SIUTATIONS--IS A PRODUCT CALLED "STOP PARASITES" THIS CAN BE USED IN THE MAIN TANK--I HAVE FOUND THAT QT'ING A FISH AFTER PLACING HIM IN THE MAIN TANK AFTER A LONG SHIPPING IS ASKING FOR PROBLEMS--LOOK INTO TO STOP PARASITES

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 08:46 PM

will it work even if it is not a parasite?

iannozzi · 02/16/2006, 08:54 PM

Good question: First we need to determine if it is a parasite or a fungus. Do a web search and see if you can find the maracyn chart that helps diagnos disease. Second, it is a parasite threat immediately and feed with seaweed soaked in vitamin suppliment--ie the zoe product--sorry for not being 100% accurate with my name for this stuff, however I have not kept tangs in years--however when I did the three suggestions worked for me at differant times--first we need to determine what it is --it looks like a fungus--if correct get maracyn; if not get stop parasites--regardless get that fish some enriched seaweed--that held assist in recovery and greatly prevents LLD

Zoos · 02/16/2006, 08:57 PM

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QT him and then use the med..

I second that

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How do you tell a Scopas from a Black Tang?

much longer nose is the obvious

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 08:58 PM

he has had a constant supply of soaked seaweed along with lots of feedings per day which were also soaked in vitamins.

iannozzi · 02/16/2006, 09:03 PM

http://fins.actwin.com/articles/disease/chart1.php

answer these questions and determine what the tang has--I suspect a fungus--hence maroxy will be needed

reefD · 02/16/2006, 09:04 PM

i would wait too with tangs it could have been brought on by stress and not anything that attacked him per say. in other words it may subside when he settles in. tangs are tough..very prone to infections but remeadied easily with streess free envirnment and good nutrition. id wait if he is eating feed him more without threatening your water quality.

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 09:08 PM

ok, i like that approach better. he is the only other fish in a 120 gallon tank except for 3 anthias, and 3 wrasses, so he isnt scared and he should have a stress free environment. from the website with the chart-i think it is a fungus. the guy i ordered it from said it didnt have it when it left, so it must have developed in the last 24 hours. so maybe reefD is right.

iannozzi · 02/16/2006, 09:11 PM

fungus is brought on by stress--a good water change and a wait and see approach may work--however at over 300 bucks I would take a more preemptive approach

reefD · 02/16/2006, 09:17 PM

money is an issue but be confident that prestine water with aged bacteria present will elevate the situation. make sure he gets some algae sheets. but like said if things dont improve in 48 hours then you need to do something else.

iannozzi · 02/16/2006, 09:19 PM

My fear is that if the fungus gets inside the tangs system that's when the game is over--the window for these things is a couple of days--however give it a day and prepare--take some time and research what the ailment actually is--that link i charted will afford you the ability to answer some questions and diagnos the fish--good luck--night

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 09:21 PM

ok. thank you guys very much. do you think that i will see improvement within 24 hours?

reefD · 02/16/2006, 09:23 PM

it is totally possible. i have seen improvements in fish in shorter time! so yes its possible if the issue is or was elleviated.

nemo g · 02/16/2006, 09:25 PM

eeeeeww, itchy scrot

nemo g

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 09:30 PM

ok awesome, because he LOVES seaweed soaked in vitamins so that is a great sign.

sethd12 · 02/16/2006, 09:36 PM

i will give you guys an update tomorrow afternoon.

goldeneyeretrie · 02/16/2006, 10:02 PM

Gorgeous tang, good luck!

smoney · 02/16/2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by sethd12
i waited about 2.5 months. i got it from zemuron114 on reefcentral. pm him for more details and tell him that i sent you to him. they run about $350 to $400 in stores.

Thanks a bunch. I dont currently have a tank that is suitable for a black tang, but when I do, I will contact him.

ReefNutPA · 02/17/2006, 01:54 AM

BTW...to answer your previous question... do not use PimaFix. Both MelaFix and PimaFix and natural remedies to help fish recover from different ailments, HOWEVER, they are not medicines. They do have their uses but if you can pinpoint a specific illness in a fish, it's much better to use a specific med to combact the disease in a hospital tank. In this case, I'd agree it's a fungus. All the Mardel products (Maroxy, Maracyn and MaracynII) can be used together.

If the area doesn't significantly improve within the next day or two, I'd put the tank in a hospital tank and medicate with Maracyn and Maroxy.

Tom

sethd12 · 02/17/2006, 10:55 PM

well. i could not find maracyn locally. so i just picked up some pimafix which says that it gets rid of body fungus. he is eating a little bit better than yesterday, but still not as good as i would like to see. the patch of fungus has not grown nor subsided so i will see.

sethd12 · 02/18/2006, 02:55 PM

i think that it is becoming thinner in some areas but im not sure.

02/16/2006, 08:21 PM	#26
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	thank you aquareeferman. i have also heard of pimafix. could i use that, because my lfs carries that. also, is that stuff known to be reef safe? __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 08:33 PM	#28
MyMonkey Persona Non Grata Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,106	How do you tell a Scopas from a Black Tang? __________________ The worst thing about an unwritten law is that you don't know where to go to erase it. Current Tank Info: 20 Long.10 months to my 240 In wall with Fish Room.

02/16/2006, 08:35 PM	#29
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	the TRUE BLACK TANG has a green line that follows his lateral line that runs the entire length of his body. it is right below his top fin. before i take him out and treat him, are we sure that it is a fungus? and can i use pimafix? __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 08:46 PM	#31
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	will it work even if it is not a parasite? __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 08:58 PM	#34
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	he has had a constant supply of soaked seaweed along with lots of feedings per day which were also soaked in vitamins. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 08:30 PM	#27
supertech3 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: El Paso Posts: 1,206	Hopefully you can quarantine him, look at this site for disease www.seahorse-nw.com

02/16/2006, 08:41 PM	#30
iannozzi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 224	ANOTHER TRIED AND TRUE REMEDY IN QUICK FIX SIUTATIONS--IS A PRODUCT CALLED "STOP PARASITES" THIS CAN BE USED IN THE MAIN TANK--I HAVE FOUND THAT QT'ING A FISH AFTER PLACING HIM IN THE MAIN TANK AFTER A LONG SHIPPING IS ASKING FOR PROBLEMS--LOOK INTO TO STOP PARASITES

02/16/2006, 08:54 PM	#32
iannozzi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 224	Good question: First we need to determine if it is a parasite or a fungus. Do a web search and see if you can find the maracyn chart that helps diagnos disease. Second, it is a parasite threat immediately and feed with seaweed soaked in vitamin suppliment--ie the zoe product--sorry for not being 100% accurate with my name for this stuff, however I have not kept tangs in years--however when I did the three suggestions worked for me at differant times--first we need to determine what it is --it looks like a fungus--if correct get maracyn; if not get stop parasites--regardless get that fish some enriched seaweed--that held assist in recovery and greatly prevents LLD

02/16/2006, 09:03 PM	#35
iannozzi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 224	http://fins.actwin.com/articles/disease/chart1.php answer these questions and determine what the tang has--I suspect a fungus--hence maroxy will be needed

02/16/2006, 09:04 PM	#36
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	i would wait too with tangs it could have been brought on by stress and not anything that attacked him per say. in other words it may subside when he settles in. tangs are tough..very prone to infections but remeadied easily with streess free envirnment and good nutrition. id wait if he is eating feed him more without threatening your water quality. __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

02/16/2006, 09:08 PM	#37
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	ok, i like that approach better. he is the only other fish in a 120 gallon tank except for 3 anthias, and 3 wrasses, so he isnt scared and he should have a stress free environment. from the website with the chart-i think it is a fungus. the guy i ordered it from said it didnt have it when it left, so it must have developed in the last 24 hours. so maybe reefD is right. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 09:11 PM	#38
iannozzi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 224	fungus is brought on by stress--a good water change and a wait and see approach may work--however at over 300 bucks I would take a more preemptive approach

02/16/2006, 09:17 PM	#39
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	money is an issue but be confident that prestine water with aged bacteria present will elevate the situation. make sure he gets some algae sheets. but like said if things dont improve in 48 hours then you need to do something else. __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

02/16/2006, 09:19 PM	#40
iannozzi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 224	My fear is that if the fungus gets inside the tangs system that's when the game is over--the window for these things is a couple of days--however give it a day and prepare--take some time and research what the ailment actually is--that link i charted will afford you the ability to answer some questions and diagnos the fish--good luck--night

02/16/2006, 09:21 PM	#41
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	ok. thank you guys very much. do you think that i will see improvement within 24 hours? __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 09:23 PM	#42
reefD Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Schenectady,New York Posts: 4,968	it is totally possible. i have seen improvements in fish in shorter time! so yes its possible if the issue is or was elleviated. __________________ DAVID Current Tank Info: it has four sides and a bottom...oh yeah and it has water in it. lol

02/16/2006, 09:25 PM	#43
nemo g Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: west side iz da best Posts: 1,039	eeeeeww, itchy scrot nemo g __________________ nG Current Tank Info: tis da bestest tank eva

02/16/2006, 09:30 PM	#44
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	ok awesome, because he LOVES seaweed soaked in vitamins so that is a great sign. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 09:36 PM	#45
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	i will give you guys an update tomorrow afternoon. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/16/2006, 10:02 PM	#46
goldeneyeretrie Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 78	Gorgeous tang, good luck!

02/17/2006, 01:54 AM	#48
ReefNutPA Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pottsville, PA Posts: 852	BTW...to answer your previous question... do not use PimaFix. Both MelaFix and PimaFix and natural remedies to help fish recover from different ailments, HOWEVER, they are not medicines. They do have their uses but if you can pinpoint a specific illness in a fish, it's much better to use a specific med to combact the disease in a hospital tank. In this case, I'd agree it's a fungus. All the Mardel products (Maroxy, Maracyn and MaracynII) can be used together. If the area doesn't significantly improve within the next day or two, I'd put the tank in a hospital tank and medicate with Maracyn and Maroxy. Tom

02/17/2006, 10:55 PM	#49
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	well. i could not find maracyn locally. so i just picked up some pimafix which says that it gets rid of body fungus. he is eating a little bit better than yesterday, but still not as good as i would like to see. the patch of fungus has not grown nor subsided so i will see. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef

02/18/2006, 02:55 PM	#50
sethd12 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 941	i think that it is becoming thinner in some areas but im not sure. __________________ -500 gallon mixed reef