Calcium levels will not increase! - Page 2

Lamorak · 02/26/2006, 09:01 PM

Reverendmaynard: Yeah, I guess so!

Bernacchi: I've had a lot of success with ESV products. I currently use their B-Ionic two part Alk and Calcium product. I've got a 60 gallon tank though, so depending upon the size of your tank, it can get expensive. I like the product though and I'm sure you could find either a Calcium Chloride or Hydroxide product that would help raise just your calcium.
I'd take a close look while you are adding the Kent product. If you see a bunch of snowflakes in the water, immediately after you add it, then you are precipitating. You'll either want to add that product as a drip or switch to another brand that won't "snowflake" on you.

bernacchi · 02/26/2006, 09:10 PM

ok let me ask it another way, does it crystalize or is it like dew?

bernacchi · 02/26/2006, 09:12 PM

thank you Lamorak

RBU1 · 02/27/2006, 05:51 AM

Here is the Salifert test kit chart. The middle numbers are in Dkh and the end numbers are in meq/l.
Not sure what the Rev is talking about with your 180. Unless your test kit is different than Salifert. But lets say you were reading 1.80 meq/l that would be a dkh of about 5. That is low and needs to be raised to about 8 or 9 dkh. I hope this helps BILL.
DKH meq/l
0.00 16.0 5.71
0.02 15.7 5.60
0.04 15.4 5.49
0.06 15.0 5.37
0.08 14.7 5.26
0.10 14.4 5.14
0.12 14.1 5.03
0.14 13.8 4.91
0.16 13.4 4.80
0.18 13.1 4.69
0.20 12.8 4.57
0.22 12.5 4.46
0.24 12.2 4.34
0.26 11.8 4.23
0.28 11.5 4.11
0.30 11.2 4.00
0.32 10.9 3.89
0.34 10.6 3.77
0.36 10.2 3.66
0.38 9.9 3.54
0.40 9.6 3.43
0.42 9.3 3.31
0.44 9.0 3.20
0.46 8.6 3.09
0.48 8.3 2.97
0.50 8.0 2.86
0.52 7.7 2.74
0.54 7.4 2.63
0.56 7.0 2.51
0.58 6.7 2.40
0.60 6.4 2.29
0.62 6.1 2.17
0.64 5.8 2.06
0.66 5.4 1.94
0.68 5.1 1.83
0.70 4.8 1.71
0.72 4.5 1.60
0.74 4.2 1.49
0.76 3.8 1.37
0.78 3.5 1.26
0.80 3.2 1.14
0.82 2.9 1.03
0.84 2.6 0.91
0.86 2.2 0.80
0.88 1.9 0.69
0.90 1.6 0.57
0.92 1.3 0.46
0.94 1.0 0.34
0.96 0.6 0.23
0.98 0.3 0.11

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RBU1 · 02/27/2006, 05:53 AM

One more thing. I use nothing but Seachem products and swear byt them. I have had no problems at all "knock on wood". To raise my Alk I use the Seachem buffer. I also like that you can call Seachem for any advice all week long. The person I deal with at Seachem is Rusty and he is real nice. They will help you get all your numbers straight. BILL

reverendmaynard · 02/27/2006, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RBU1
Here is the Salifert test kit chart. The middle numbers are in Dkh and the end numbers are in meq/l.
Not sure what the Rev is talking about with your 180. Unless your test kit is different than Salifert.

The only thing test kits have to do with conversion of ppm into meq/l or dkh is what they give you the readings in. Your chart doesn't mention ppm at all. Many test kits give their readings in ppm.
meq/l=ppm*.02
dkh=ppm*.056
Therefore, 180ppm = 3.6meq/l = 10.08 dkh, which is a fine level.

RBU1 · 02/27/2006, 07:21 AM

Gotcha Thanks for clearing that up for me. I just assumed that all test kits were in meq/l not ppm. I would try a different calcium raising product. Give Seacham a try. Make sure you do not dose more than the suggested amounts. BILL

bernacchi · 02/27/2006, 01:02 PM

Being new to saltwater setups I purchased Red Sea Reef Lab which was what the LFS was pushing that week. Unfortunately, results for ALK is read in general terms of "low-normal-high" only. As a qiuck check I got some 5 in 1 dip strips which is in ppm. Salifert test kit was ordered yesterday and hopefully will give me a more useable reading. Still today after adding 4oz. for liquid calcium yesterday {without any precipitation} the calcium is still unchanged at 350. I also use Seachem Builder & Buffer. Any ideas beyound waiting for the Salifert Kit?

reverendmaynard · 02/27/2006, 01:13 PM

could be a bad test kit. I'd wait for the salifert before adding any more.

02/26/2006, 09:10 PM	#27
bernacchi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aiken SC Posts: 38	ok let me ask it another way, does it crystalize or is it like dew? __________________ Aikenreefnuts Current Tank Info: A 55 and a 90 gal reef, turbo twist and Gamma UV, coralite needle wheel skimmers, 130w Orbit PC Extreme(55g), Aqualight Pro 2-150wMH(90g), Lunar Tracker, SEIO powerheads, Koralia 4 pumps on Ocean Pulse, Aqua Euro USA CA Reactor, Arctica Chiller.

02/26/2006, 09:12 PM	#28
bernacchi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aiken SC Posts: 38	thank you Lamorak __________________ Aikenreefnuts Current Tank Info: A 55 and a 90 gal reef, turbo twist and Gamma UV, coralite needle wheel skimmers, 130w Orbit PC Extreme(55g), Aqualight Pro 2-150wMH(90g), Lunar Tracker, SEIO powerheads, Koralia 4 pumps on Ocean Pulse, Aqua Euro USA CA Reactor, Arctica Chiller.

02/27/2006, 01:02 PM	#33
bernacchi Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Aiken SC Posts: 38	Being new to saltwater setups I purchased Red Sea Reef Lab which was what the LFS was pushing that week. Unfortunately, results for ALK is read in general terms of "low-normal-high" only. As a qiuck check I got some 5 in 1 dip strips which is in ppm. Salifert test kit was ordered yesterday and hopefully will give me a more useable reading. Still today after adding 4oz. for liquid calcium yesterday {without any precipitation} the calcium is still unchanged at 350. I also use Seachem Builder & Buffer. Any ideas beyound waiting for the Salifert Kit? __________________ Aikenreefnuts Current Tank Info: A 55 and a 90 gal reef, turbo twist and Gamma UV, coralite needle wheel skimmers, 130w Orbit PC Extreme(55g), Aqualight Pro 2-150wMH(90g), Lunar Tracker, SEIO powerheads, Koralia 4 pumps on Ocean Pulse, Aqua Euro USA CA Reactor, Arctica Chiller.

02/27/2006, 01:13 PM	#34
reverendmaynard Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: RI Posts: 1,490	could be a bad test kit. I'd wait for the salifert before adding any more. __________________ Think for yourself. Question authority. Current Tank Info: 125 gal AGA, setup on 1/1/06; 29 gal seahorse tank, setup 10/21/06

02/26/2006, 09:01 PM	#26
Lamorak Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: O.C. California Posts: 107	Reverendmaynard: Yeah, I guess so! Bernacchi: I've had a lot of success with ESV products. I currently use their B-Ionic two part Alk and Calcium product. I've got a 60 gallon tank though, so depending upon the size of your tank, it can get expensive. I like the product though and I'm sure you could find either a Calcium Chloride or Hydroxide product that would help raise just your calcium. I'd take a close look while you are adding the Kent product. If you see a bunch of snowflakes in the water, immediately after you add it, then you are precipitating. You'll either want to add that product as a drip or switch to another brand that won't "snowflake" on you.

02/27/2006, 05:51 AM	#29
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	Here is the Salifert test kit chart. The middle numbers are in Dkh and the end numbers are in meq/l. Not sure what the Rev is talking about with your 180. Unless your test kit is different than Salifert. But lets say you were reading 1.80 meq/l that would be a dkh of about 5. That is low and needs to be raised to about 8 or 9 dkh. I hope this helps BILL. DKH meq/l 0.00 16.0 5.71 0.02 15.7 5.60 0.04 15.4 5.49 0.06 15.0 5.37 0.08 14.7 5.26 0.10 14.4 5.14 0.12 14.1 5.03 0.14 13.8 4.91 0.16 13.4 4.80 0.18 13.1 4.69 0.20 12.8 4.57 0.22 12.5 4.46 0.24 12.2 4.34 0.26 11.8 4.23 0.28 11.5 4.11 0.30 11.2 4.00 0.32 10.9 3.89 0.34 10.6 3.77 0.36 10.2 3.66 0.38 9.9 3.54 0.40 9.6 3.43 0.42 9.3 3.31 0.44 9.0 3.20 0.46 8.6 3.09 0.48 8.3 2.97 0.50 8.0 2.86 0.52 7.7 2.74 0.54 7.4 2.63 0.56 7.0 2.51 0.58 6.7 2.40 0.60 6.4 2.29 0.62 6.1 2.17 0.64 5.8 2.06 0.66 5.4 1.94 0.68 5.1 1.83 0.70 4.8 1.71 0.72 4.5 1.60 0.74 4.2 1.49 0.76 3.8 1.37 0.78 3.5 1.26 0.80 3.2 1.14 0.82 2.9 1.03 0.84 2.6 0.91 0.86 2.2 0.80 0.88 1.9 0.69 0.90 1.6 0.57 0.92 1.3 0.46 0.94 1.0 0.34 0.96 0.6 0.23 0.98 0.3 0.11 If you have any questions about the Salifert KH/Alkalinity Test Kit or other Aquarium Supplies, please call us at 1-714-385-0080 or e-mail us at customercare@marinedepot.com. Related Items: Salifert Magnesium Test Kit Add $23.95 Captive Purity Refractometer with Light Add $119.00 Salifert KH & pH Buffer 500 mL Add $15.90 Login Home \| Newsletter \| Request Catalog \| FAQ Contact Us \| Job Opportunities \| Customer Registration Copyright 1997-2005 MarineDepot.com. All rights reserved. 0.06 seconds

02/27/2006, 05:53 AM	#30
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	One more thing. I use nothing but Seachem products and swear byt them. I have had no problems at all "knock on wood". To raise my Alk I use the Seachem buffer. I also like that you can call Seachem for any advice all week long. The person I deal with at Seachem is Rusty and he is real nice. They will help you get all your numbers straight. BILL

02/27/2006, 07:21 AM	#32
RBU1 Moving on Up Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,167	Gotcha Thanks for clearing that up for me. I just assumed that all test kits were in meq/l not ppm. I would try a different calcium raising product. Give Seacham a try. Make sure you do not dose more than the suggested amounts. BILL