My 55 Gallon Tank Project !!!!! - Page 2

bjonesjr1 · 03/25/2006, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon's Reef
did you think about the Coralife Super Skimmer 65 there not bad for the price and totally killed the remora pro I had.

If you can give me a website to check this skimmer out it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks alot Brandon's Reef.

bjonesjr1 · 03/25/2006, 10:50 PM

bump

amazingbobby · 03/25/2006, 10:55 PM

You'll be happy with the Aqua C Remora. I have a Maxi-Jet 1200 on it and it is working great so far. It is on a 29gal, though, and I'm not positive that it is enough for a 55gal. maybe someone can verify it.

bjonesjr1 · 03/25/2006, 11:01 PM

Thats what I'm leaning towards, but I still want to know which is better the "needle wheel system"
or the "spray injection system"

thanks amzingbobby though for the input...

bjonesjr1 · 03/26/2006, 09:10 PM

does anyone have a input on these twi systems above please ???

bjonesjr1 · 03/26/2006, 09:11 PM

which is better.....

needle wheel system (Aqua Medic Turboflotor)...

spray injection system (Aqua C Remora Pro)...

thanks for the input from anyone !!!

NCreefwannabe · 03/27/2006, 12:47 AM

hahathe wal mart tank im assuming?? if so I have the same one. so be carefull with the heater, they tend to stick sometimes. Ive seen 3 so far do it before mine stuck..
as for the skimmer, i would go with the needlewheel. But id prolly get the coralife superskimmer.

Swanwillow · 03/27/2006, 06:41 AM

I have a aqua C bak-pak run with the maxi 1200, I like it... until it settles in nice, it spwes out microbubbles, and whenever you add an additive to the tank it spews-but all skimmers do that, I'm told.

otherwise, more rock... and I agree with Patmayo-anemone is a bit too soon. Where do you want to go with this tank? reef? fish? You'll rue the damsels, I'm sure... unless your going to not have any other fish, and going straight reef...

tulkas71 · 03/27/2006, 09:07 AM

Im a bit on the new side my self.
But im thinking you need some(make that alot)more live rock in your tank, and then monitor it untill its cycled?
Im not sure how its going to handle any bioload.
Id take the aneneneneme back for now.

From my underdtanding skimmers and filters are merely bandaids, abiet good ones, to the biologic filtration of LR and optionaly a DSB.
LR sees faster results and a DSB takes a very long time to establish.

IMO, id get least 60 pounds in there.
If money is an issue then just add to it when you can.
Take your time, build up your LR, get a cleaner crew, watch for spikes and aglae blooms and then add the 'cool stuff'

A couple of powerheads for more flow others will mention.

just my 2 cents

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NCreefwannabe
hahathe wal mart tank im assuming?? if so I have the same one. so be carefull with the heater, they tend to stick sometimes. as for the skimmer, i would go with the needlewheel. But id prolly get the coralife superskimmer.

As for the walmart thing, not sure bought it off a buddy that had it for 3 years so, couldn't pass it up for $150 tank and stand.... As for the heater I don't even use it I live in florida so its in their right now just for looks, (came with the tank)... If I do buy a heater then I'll buy the right one to make sure I have a good one, thanks for the input on the two systems... I have heard & read good and bad things about the spray injection system and I've heard & read that needle is better than the spray injection, as in skimming purposes... thanks again for the input though NCreefwannabe

Kurt03 · 03/27/2006, 09:29 AM

Heres the corallife super skimmers
http://bigalsonline.com/catalog/cate...tegory_id=3043
I got a 220 off ebay and dont have it yet so cant tell you if it works good or not. They seem like a decent bang for your buck compared to the others.

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Swanwillow
I have a aqua C bak-pak run with the maxi 1200, I like it... until it settles in nice, it spwes out microbubbles, and whenever you add an additive to the tank it spews-but all skimmers do that, I'm told. Where do you want to go with this tank? reef? fish? You'll rue the damsels, I'm sure... unless your going to not have any other fish, and going straight reef...

You have the Aqua C urchin? Or is the one you have a different one? Yea I was told the same thing about the microbubbles, you supposed to turn off your skimmer whenever adding chemicals to prevent any microbubbles going back into the tank... I'm trying to see whats going to fit my best as in with where I'm going with the tank, but the problem is my wife is in the Coast Guard and we will be moving this year sometime, somewhere ??? and I don't want to get a whole lot of LR because of the fact that we mayu be going to Hawaii for all I know... In the end I'm shooting for around 100lbs of LR with different sorts of polpys, a few anemone's for hosting with clown fish, and maybe some colorfull colors to add into the tank with around 5-7 fish in the tank... but that won't happen tell we end up in a perment place for awhile... (which will be after this move)

I hate the damsels, the little bastards... LOL even with the little worm culture rock that I have in my tank, they knock that around with mnoving sand all the time, They will be the first out of the tank and back to LFS when possible. Thanks for the input though Swanwillow

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tulkas71
But im thinking you need some(make that alot)more live rock in your tank, and then monitor it untill its cycled?

From my underdtanding skimmers and filters are merely bandaids, abiet good ones, to the biologic filtration of LR and optionaly a DSB.
LR sees faster results and a DSB takes a very long time to establish.

Thanks for the input tulkas71, like I said above my wife's in the Coast Guard and the fact that I'm moving this year somewhere, is the reason that I haven't gotten alot of LR, other than When we do get to our new home I'm going to be shooting for around 100lbs of LR and as for my sand bed, the sand that is in their has been alive for 3 years from my buddy that sold me the tank, and I also got a cup of LS from a buddy of mine on here *(robthorn)* he gave a cup of his LS from his tank that has been established for awhile, so I think my sand bed is doing pretty well for what I have in their... Thanks again for the input though, greatly appreciated

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kurt03
I got a 220 off ebay and dont have it yet so cant tell you if it works good or not. They seem like a decent bang for your buck compared to the others.

thanks for the link Kurt03 will check it out...

tulkas71 · 03/27/2006, 09:52 AM

If you dont see an occasional gas buble pop-up from the sand to the surface then its not doing its job yet.

If your moving this year, to be honest, I wouldnt progress in it any further and just have your equipment ready till after.

My 55 was left in my posession by my Ex(her hobby not mine initially

). I have done about all i can with it the way its setup now.
If i had the opportunity to start from scratch, is definately go with a larger tank with on overflow. but thats another thread

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 10:25 AM

I see the gas bubble pop every now and then but it is their... Well I know that when I do move, I could always sell what I have or ship it to where I'm going... The military gives us 2 weeks before my wife has to report where ever we have to go so can be their before the shipment arrives and set everything back up, if everything is fine during shipment...

Swanwillow · 03/27/2006, 10:29 AM

its not the urchin, its the bakpak 2R ummm, has two chambers....

oops, its a CPR aquatic bakpak, not aqua c... ugh, sorry for screwing it up!!!! anyways, heres the site/picture of it (minues the bio-bale crud) http://www.cpraquatic.com/products/bakpak.html

bjonesjr1 · 03/27/2006, 10:31 AM

thanks for the link will look into it... thanks agaun swanwillow

bjonesjr1 · 04/03/2006, 10:15 PM

bump

bjonesjr1 · 04/03/2006, 10:21 PM

about to purchase my skimmer tomorrow and would like to know people's final thought on the two systems that I have narrowed it down too...

The needle wheel system

Or the spray injection system

As I've been talking above with which one is better would like to know what people's thoughts are on the pro's & con's of each one and why I should go with one of the other...

Do like the Aqua C Remora Pro HO with the drain fitting but also like the Aqua Medic Turboflotor because of the needle wheel system, have heard this was better in the end for my tank ???

thanks for the input guys & girls

tulkas71 · 04/04/2006, 07:30 AM

Having a drain would be very nice

slapshot16 · 04/09/2006, 05:37 AM

Go with the Remora. Very easy set up and adjustment. Get the skimmer box too.

PatMayo · 04/09/2006, 08:46 AM

I had a remora on my 46 gallon and was not happy with it's performance. I used the mj1200 and the skimmer box, still was not happy with it's performance. (It's for sale if you want it)

I prefer the needle wheel but I only have experience with the remora and the ER which is a needle wheel.

As far as a DSB. A DSB will only function as a DSB if it is a minimum of about 4 inches deep. Anything less than that and it really will not function as a DSB. As for protein skimmers and live rock, you really do need a good protein skimmer if you want to have a decent number of critters in your tank. Live rock will work alone but for long term health the skimmer works in conjunction with your live rock and will give you good long term results.

Regards,

Pat

blazemore · 04/14/2006, 12:37 PM

I took a picture almost exactly like one of yours about four years ago.

bjonesjr1 · 04/15/2006, 02:10 PM

Thats cool... Thats exactly what the one Looked like in my picture... I ended up takening him out though, Did you ???

03/25/2006, 10:50 PM	#27
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	bump __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

03/25/2006, 10:55 PM	#28
amazingbobby Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: N.California Posts: 227	You'll be happy with the Aqua C Remora. I have a Maxi-Jet 1200 on it and it is working great so far. It is on a 29gal, though, and I'm not positive that it is enough for a 55gal. maybe someone can verify it. __________________ Control for smilers can't be bought Current Tank Info: 29 gal Reef, 30"Coralife Deluxe Aqualight, Aqua C Remora Skimmer, 24 gal Cube w/ 150w Sunpod. LPS, softies, bristleworms x 7.34 million, and other weird creatures.

03/25/2006, 11:01 PM	#29
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	Thats what I'm leaning towards, but I still want to know which is better the "needle wheel system" or the "spray injection system" thanks amzingbobby though for the input... __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

03/26/2006, 09:10 PM	#30
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	does anyone have a input on these twi systems above please ??? __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

03/26/2006, 09:11 PM	#31
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	which is better..... needle wheel system (Aqua Medic Turboflotor)... spray injection system (Aqua C Remora Pro)... thanks for the input from anyone !!! __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

03/27/2006, 12:47 AM	#32
NCreefwannabe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 953	hahathe wal mart tank im assuming?? if so I have the same one. so be carefull with the heater, they tend to stick sometimes. Ive seen 3 so far do it before mine stuck.. as for the skimmer, i would go with the needlewheel. But id prolly get the coralife superskimmer.

03/27/2006, 06:41 AM	#33
Swanwillow goby girl Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bemidji MN Posts: 2,025	I have a aqua C bak-pak run with the maxi 1200, I like it... until it settles in nice, it spwes out microbubbles, and whenever you add an additive to the tank it spews-but all skimmers do that, I'm told. otherwise, more rock... and I agree with Patmayo-anemone is a bit too soon. Where do you want to go with this tank? reef? fish? You'll rue the damsels, I'm sure... unless your going to not have any other fish, and going straight reef... __________________ my advice:walk away. do nothing. til tomorrow. if its still alive, it will hopefully be fine. If you do not see it, do not try to find it. it may be hiding. just LEAVE it alone Current Tank Info: starting over! 125 gallon. Soon to be home to Blackfoot clowns, A. nigripes

03/27/2006, 09:07 AM	#34
tulkas71 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 155	Im a bit on the new side my self. But im thinking you need some(make that alot)more live rock in your tank, and then monitor it untill its cycled? Im not sure how its going to handle any bioload. Id take the aneneneneme back for now. From my underdtanding skimmers and filters are merely bandaids, abiet good ones, to the biologic filtration of LR and optionaly a DSB. LR sees faster results and a DSB takes a very long time to establish. IMO, id get least 60 pounds in there. If money is an issue then just add to it when you can. Take your time, build up your LR, get a cleaner crew, watch for spikes and aglae blooms and then add the 'cool stuff' A couple of powerheads for more flow others will mention. just my 2 cents __________________ No man is an island, but some are penninsulas Current Tank Info: 55gl 260w PC lights, Odyssa PS75 HOB skimmer, 2 MJ 1200 powerheads, and an unknown model cannister filter

03/27/2006, 09:29 AM	#36
Kurt03 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,602	Heres the corallife super skimmers http://bigalsonline.com/catalog/cate...tegory_id=3043 I got a 220 off ebay and dont have it yet so cant tell you if it works good or not. They seem like a decent bang for your buck compared to the others.

03/27/2006, 09:52 AM	#40
tulkas71 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 155	If you dont see an occasional gas buble pop-up from the sand to the surface then its not doing its job yet. If your moving this year, to be honest, I wouldnt progress in it any further and just have your equipment ready till after. My 55 was left in my posession by my Ex(her hobby not mine initially ). I have done about all i can with it the way its setup now. If i had the opportunity to start from scratch, is definately go with a larger tank with on overflow. but thats another thread __________________ No man is an island, but some are penninsulas Current Tank Info: 55gl 260w PC lights, Odyssa PS75 HOB skimmer, 2 MJ 1200 powerheads, and an unknown model cannister filter

03/27/2006, 10:25 AM	#41
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	I see the gas bubble pop every now and then but it is their... Well I know that when I do move, I could always sell what I have or ship it to where I'm going... The military gives us 2 weeks before my wife has to report where ever we have to go so can be their before the shipment arrives and set everything back up, if everything is fine during shipment... __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

03/27/2006, 10:29 AM	#42
Swanwillow goby girl Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bemidji MN Posts: 2,025	its not the urchin, its the bakpak 2R ummm, has two chambers.... oops, its a CPR aquatic bakpak, not aqua c... ugh, sorry for screwing it up!!!! anyways, heres the site/picture of it (minues the bio-bale crud) http://www.cpraquatic.com/products/bakpak.html __________________ my advice:walk away. do nothing. til tomorrow. if its still alive, it will hopefully be fine. If you do not see it, do not try to find it. it may be hiding. just LEAVE it alone Current Tank Info: starting over! 125 gallon. Soon to be home to Blackfoot clowns, A. nigripes

03/27/2006, 10:31 AM	#43
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	thanks for the link will look into it... thanks agaun swanwillow __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

04/03/2006, 10:15 PM	#44
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	bump __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

04/03/2006, 10:21 PM	#45
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	about to purchase my skimmer tomorrow and would like to know people's final thought on the two systems that I have narrowed it down too... The needle wheel system Or the spray injection system As I've been talking above with which one is better would like to know what people's thoughts are on the pro's & con's of each one and why I should go with one of the other... Do like the Aqua C Remora Pro HO with the drain fitting but also like the Aqua Medic Turboflotor because of the needle wheel system, have heard this was better in the end for my tank ??? thanks for the input guys & girls __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer

04/04/2006, 07:30 AM	#46
tulkas71 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 155	Having a drain would be very nice __________________ No man is an island, but some are penninsulas Current Tank Info: 55gl 260w PC lights, Odyssa PS75 HOB skimmer, 2 MJ 1200 powerheads, and an unknown model cannister filter

04/09/2006, 05:37 AM	#47
slapshot16 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 341	Go with the Remora. Very easy set up and adjustment. Get the skimmer box too.

04/09/2006, 08:46 AM	#48
PatMayo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,843	I had a remora on my 46 gallon and was not happy with it's performance. I used the mj1200 and the skimmer box, still was not happy with it's performance. (It's for sale if you want it) I prefer the needle wheel but I only have experience with the remora and the ER which is a needle wheel. As far as a DSB. A DSB will only function as a DSB if it is a minimum of about 4 inches deep. Anything less than that and it really will not function as a DSB. As for protein skimmers and live rock, you really do need a good protein skimmer if you want to have a decent number of critters in your tank. Live rock will work alone but for long term health the skimmer works in conjunction with your live rock and will give you good long term results. Regards, Pat __________________ 90 AGA Megaflow (Setup 1-24-06) 120 Lbs. Liverock EuroReef RS 100 Skimmer 2 X 150 MH 2 X 96 watt PC Actinic 2 Clarki Clowns (31 months old) 1 Niger Trigger (Owned 6 months) 2 Tunze 6055 PH Current Tank Info: 90 AGA Megaflow To Be Mixed Reef

04/14/2006, 12:37 PM	#49
blazemore Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 75	I took a picture almost exactly like one of yours about four years ago.

04/15/2006, 02:10 PM	#50
bjonesjr1 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 1,258	Thats cool... Thats exactly what the one Looked like in my picture... I ended up takening him out though, Did you ??? __________________ Bobby Current Tank Info: 75gal, LifeReef CLF1 Sump & SVS2-24 Skimmer