Extreme Makeover: Sump Edition - Page 2

Chaloupa · 04/29/2006, 05:03 PM

Nicely done! Much easier to work in and to look at I'm sure!

glaudds · 04/29/2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by subzero420
looks way more clean, nice job.

can you explain why you have the pinpoint monitor in that little pool of water and not just in the main area?

Thanks all...

This little cup is where the effluent from my Ca reactor drains into(from the black tube). The ph probe monitors the effluent's pH. It is connected to a pH controller that turns the CO2 to the reactor off and on within a prescribed range to dissolve the reactor media.
There are a couple of small holes on the bubble tower side where the effluent drains into the sump. I'm hoping that the bubble agitation in the tower will blow off some of the excess CO2.

Mike.B · 04/30/2006, 02:29 AM

Hmmph crazy!

Calcium reactors, CO2 and kalk reactors worry me, there the only piece of reef equipment I really know nothing about

Casie · 04/30/2006, 03:25 AM

Very nicely done, Glaudds! =)

melev · 04/30/2006, 04:06 AM

You did a very nice job. Glad I stumbled across your thread. The title caught my eye.

glaudds · 04/30/2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by subzero420
Hmmph crazy!

Calcium reactors, CO2 and kalk reactors worry me, there the only piece of reef equipment I really know nothing about

lol, thanks subzero
Here's a good link to get you started, click on the calcium reactor primer link on that page.....
http://www.cnidarianreef.com/

glaudds · 04/30/2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by melev
You did a very nice job. Glad I stumbled across your thread. The title caught my eye.

Thanks Marc...It was your site that I got alot of the information and inspiration for this project. What a great resource!
For those of you that don't know of Marc's site....
http://www.melevsreef.com/

Ewan · 04/30/2006, 04:39 PM

Very nice! I'd like to do the same some day.

I really like the effluent compartment. Nice attention to detail. Everything seems perfect.

-E.

glaudds · 04/30/2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Ewan
Very nice! I'd like to do the same some day.

I really like the effluent compartment. Nice attention to detail. Everything seems perfect.

-E.

Thanks, Ewan...I'm pretty happy with the result. The sump is pretty silent. But what I noticed since the sump was running is that my tank temperature is much more stable. Instead of the 2-3 degree daily swing, it's more like 1 degree. I'm evaporating more due the the larger exposed surface area, thus more cooling.

snoozer · 06/16/2006, 11:24 AM

Nice DIY....I noticed your float valve is on the side of your refugium. What type of water top off are you using? Thanks

glaudds · 06/16/2006, 06:23 PM

I have reservoir above the tank that gravity feeds RO/DI water into my kalk reactor which then flows through the kent float valve.

I put the float valve on the wall of the refugium that overflows into the sump in hopes that the water will help prevent the buildup of calcium deposits on the valve. Here is a picture of the valve when the sump was first set up...

In the couple of months since this setup has been running, I still get some buildup on the valve (especially the underside), but not as much as before.

d.can82 · 06/17/2006, 11:29 AM

WOW, I find it hard to believe that this is your first attempt at working with acrylic- absolutely professional job! And that on top of having to contend with an already warped sump!
Just out of curiosity, do you have an auto shut off valve on the float valve, or is the mechanical portion of the float enough to shut off the flow from the reservoir?

glaudds · 06/17/2006, 07:05 PM

Thanks, d.can...it wasn't as hard as it looks. The tank bowing did throw a curve in things, however.

The kent float valve is enough to shut the flow from the the reservoir...no autoshut off valve. I have been using this same valve for about 8 years now.

jeffreylam1132 · 06/27/2006, 04:29 AM

Hi glaudds,

This is some nice work. Looks really clean and well thought out. One question, what is the probe at the baffle used for? I will definitely used this thread as a guide to build my sump when I'm ready. Thanks for sharing.

Jeffrey

jjjimmy · 06/27/2006, 06:22 AM

Very nice work indeed. I just this last weekend did pretty much the same thing but my sump is larger because I have mine in my basement.

Here is a couple of pics.

Before install

After install.

It is amazing how quick a good idea can catch on.

melev · 06/27/2006, 11:12 AM

That is some flow! Look at the water coming out of the teeth on your refugium.

I guess with the basement application, noise isn't a factor.

Nice work, guys.

glaudds · 06/27/2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by jeffreylam1132
Hi glaudds,

This is some nice work. Looks really clean and well thought out. One question, what is the probe at the baffle used for? I will definitely used this thread as a guide to build my sump when I'm ready. Thanks for sharing.

Jeffrey

Thanks Jeffrey,

There are actually two probe holders in the baffles, one is for a Pinpoint pH monitor (for tanks's pH), and the other is for a temperature probe I have hooked up to a Reefkeeper 2 controller.

Good luck with your new sump!

glaudds · 06/27/2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jjjimmy
Very nice work indeed. I just this last weekend did pretty much the same thing but my sump is larger because I have mine in my basement.

It is amazing how quick a good idea can catch on.

jjjimmy,

LOL, brilliant minds think alike.... great job!!

But again, I must give props to Melev for all the great ideas on his site.

That is some serious flow you have going through your fuge and sump. How much is flowing through there?

jjjimmy · 06/27/2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by glaudds
jjjimmy,

LOL, brilliant minds think alike.... great job!!

But again, I must give props to Melev for all the great ideas on his site.

That is some serious flow you have going through your fuge and sump. How much is flowing through there?

Definately, props to Melev.

I am not exactly sure how much flow is going where. I have always just gone by eye and feel. I have one pump running everything on my system, a Sequence Manta Ray. If I am not mistaken it pushes almost 5200 gallons an hour at 4' of head and is a pressure rated pump.

melev · 06/27/2006, 01:18 PM

OMG. Talk about an energy hog! 771w of power, 24 hours a day.
http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...rk.asp?CartId=

My window a/c unit pulls 800w and that aggravates me to no end, especially when my electricity bill comes in.

As long as you're happy and can pay the bill...

jjjimmy · 06/27/2006, 01:26 PM

I replaced a 1HP pump that pulled even more. I should be happy when I get my electric bill.

melev · 06/27/2006, 01:42 PM

My old return pump was an Ampmaster 4700. It pulled 384w of power. Now I'm using a Little Giant that pulls 141w of power. I'm all about lower wattage when possible, which is why I run Tunzes and a VorTech.

jjjimmy · 06/27/2006, 01:49 PM

I run the Tunze's as well but when you have about 35' of head between everything that one is running your pump options become limited.

Johnson7 · 06/27/2006, 06:20 PM

Is your stand store bought or DIY? I want to cut a hole in the side of my Oceanic stand so my sump will be easier to get in and out. However, I wasn't sure if a huge hole would drastically compromise the integrity of the stand even though I plan on reinforcing it after I cut the hole. I personally would rather have doors on the ends of my stands than remove the center brace.

glaudds · 06/27/2006, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bthomas
Is your stand store bought or DIY? I want to cut a hole in the side of my Oceanic stand so my sump will be easier to get in and out. However, I wasn't sure if a huge hole would drastically compromise the integrity of the stand even though I plan on reinforcing it after I cut the hole. I personally would rather have doors on the ends of my stands than remove the center brace.

My stand is a store bought Lee-mar stand. I contemplated removing the center brace also, but decided to cut a hole on the end. In doing so, I even had to about an inch from the 2x4's in the corners of the stand. I don't think I compromised the strength of the stand significantly in doing so. From what I understand, the attached skin of the stand also contributes alot to the overall strength.

04/29/2006, 05:03 PM	#26
Chaloupa Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vancouver Island, BC Canada Posts: 412	Nicely done! Much easier to work in and to look at I'm sure! __________________ No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. Sarah Current Tank Info: 65g hexagon reef,120g anemone and LPS, 34g RSM, 150g SPS and zoos, 40g frag/Q tank

04/30/2006, 03:25 AM	#29
Casie Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elm Grove, La Posts: 363	Very nicely done, Glaudds! =) __________________ ==(`'·.¸(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)¸.·'´)== ¤´¨`·.¸¸.Casie.¸¸.·´¨`¤ ==(¸.·'´(¸.·'´ `'·.¸)`'·.¸)== Current Tank Info: 200 gallon mixed

06/17/2006, 11:29 AM	#37
d.can82 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 142	WOW, I find it hard to believe that this is your first attempt at working with acrylic- absolutely professional job! And that on top of having to contend with an already warped sump! Just out of curiosity, do you have an auto shut off valve on the float valve, or is the mechanical portion of the float enough to shut off the flow from the reservoir? __________________ Daniel "Sweety, if I get a bigger tank, then can I have a little tang?" Current Tank Info: 40 Breeder w/ 4 x 39w T5 Retro, 20 Long Sump, Super Skimmer 65, DIY Kalkreactor

06/27/2006, 04:29 AM	#39
jeffreylam1132 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rosemead, CA Posts: 2,658	Hi glaudds, This is some nice work. Looks really clean and well thought out. One question, what is the probe at the baffle used for? I will definitely used this thread as a guide to build my sump when I'm ready. Thanks for sharing. Jeffrey __________________ SCRK, SFVR, SCMAS & LARS Member Current Tank Info: Tankless

06/27/2006, 06:22 AM	#40
jjjimmy Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Algonquin, IL Posts: 2,867	Very nice work indeed. I just this last weekend did pretty much the same thing but my sump is larger because I have mine in my basement. Here is a couple of pics. Before install After install. It is amazing how quick a good idea can catch on. __________________ How strange it seems that the truth is something that most do not want to hear.

04/30/2006, 02:29 AM	#28
Mike.B Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 548	Hmmph crazy! Calcium reactors, CO2 and kalk reactors worry me, there the only piece of reef equipment I really know nothing about

04/30/2006, 04:06 AM	#30
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	You did a very nice job. Glad I stumbled across your thread. The title caught my eye.

04/30/2006, 04:39 PM	#33
Ewan Premium Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada Posts: 2,594	Very nice! I'd like to do the same some day. I really like the effluent compartment. Nice attention to detail. Everything seems perfect. -E.

06/16/2006, 11:24 AM	#35
snoozer Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3	Nice DIY....I noticed your float valve is on the side of your refugium. What type of water top off are you using? Thanks

06/16/2006, 06:23 PM	#36
glaudds Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glendale, So. Cal. Posts: 2,425	I have reservoir above the tank that gravity feeds RO/DI water into my kalk reactor which then flows through the kent float valve. I put the float valve on the wall of the refugium that overflows into the sump in hopes that the water will help prevent the buildup of calcium deposits on the valve. Here is a picture of the valve when the sump was first set up... In the couple of months since this setup has been running, I still get some buildup on the valve (especially the underside), but not as much as before.

06/17/2006, 07:05 PM	#38
glaudds Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Glendale, So. Cal. Posts: 2,425	Thanks, d.can...it wasn't as hard as it looks. The tank bowing did throw a curve in things, however. The kent float valve is enough to shut the flow from the the reservoir...no autoshut off valve. I have been using this same valve for about 8 years now.

06/27/2006, 11:12 AM	#41
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	That is some flow! Look at the water coming out of the teeth on your refugium. I guess with the basement application, noise isn't a factor. Nice work, guys.

06/27/2006, 01:18 PM	#45
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	OMG. Talk about an energy hog! 771w of power, 24 hours a day. http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_...rk.asp?CartId= My window a/c unit pulls 800w and that aggravates me to no end, especially when my electricity bill comes in. As long as you're happy and can pay the bill...

06/27/2006, 01:26 PM	#46
jjjimmy Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Algonquin, IL Posts: 2,867	I replaced a 1HP pump that pulled even more. I should be happy when I get my electric bill. __________________ How strange it seems that the truth is something that most do not want to hear.

06/27/2006, 01:42 PM	#47
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	My old return pump was an Ampmaster 4700. It pulled 384w of power. Now I'm using a Little Giant that pulls 141w of power. I'm all about lower wattage when possible, which is why I run Tunzes and a VorTech.

06/27/2006, 01:49 PM	#48
jjjimmy Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Algonquin, IL Posts: 2,867	I run the Tunze's as well but when you have about 35' of head between everything that one is running your pump options become limited. __________________ How strange it seems that the truth is something that most do not want to hear.

06/27/2006, 06:20 PM	#49
Johnson7 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St Louis Posts: 195	Is your stand store bought or DIY? I want to cut a hole in the side of my Oceanic stand so my sump will be easier to get in and out. However, I wasn't sure if a huge hole would drastically compromise the integrity of the stand even though I plan on reinforcing it after I cut the hole. I personally would rather have doors on the ends of my stands than remove the center brace. __________________ In most places in the country, voting is looked upon as a right and a duty, but in Chicago it's a sport. In Chicago not only your vote counts, but all kinds of other votes--kids, dead folks, and so on. -Dick Gregory Current Tank Info: AGA 75RR