Let's talk about Polyp Extension in an SPS tank - Page 2

dirtyreefer · 12/10/2006, 01:04 AM

Good point about the polyp extension not always being a good thing. I just thought I would experiment with the flow to see if the polyps actually come out during the daylight hours.

When you mention that you aim your 6100 on your back wall, I assume that it's mounted on the end of your tank though. That is fine since you are still blasting it lengthwise on your tank, even if it's bouncing off the front or back of the tank since the flow is going the length of the tank. But with mine, it would almost be like you mounting yours on the front of the tank and aiming it at the back of your tank. Not very effective but I get your point though

dirtyreefer · 12/10/2006, 01:08 AM

Great lookin tank btw

twon8 · 12/10/2006, 01:15 AM

actually it is in a deco rock, aimed up at the back wall, so it is in the middle of the tank, less than 8 inches from the glass it is facing.
in this pic the green w purple rim cap on the right side is attached to the deco rock, the flow peaks at the surface directly behind the middle standpipe, which has the rubberbands around it.

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Originally posted by dirtyreefer
Great lookin tank btw

thanks, now im just waiting for stuff to grow in; i really need to install a no new frags policy, but...

- just looked at my tank after the lights were out. I had been taking pictures earlier so some of my flow pumps were still off (6100 was still on along with the return, and the polyps were more inflated than i usually observe in this tank, but it might just be because they weren't getting moved around near as much. I turned the modded mj's back on.

SDguy · 12/10/2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by twon8
2x6000 in a 94 is not that much flow, i would have them set at 30-100

mille's not having pe is really weird, i've never experienced that. I have green mille four feet directly infront of a 6200 and it is my fastest growing acro, so if anything turn those streams up imo.

Actually, my pink milli has some of the worst PE in my tank. Always has. No clue why. It's growing. Other millis look like shaving brushes

hobogato · 12/10/2006, 11:09 AM

20" off of the water for the halides might be a bit high, most people average 7" to 12" i believe.

dirtyreefer · 12/10/2006, 02:09 PM

Actually what I meant to say is 20cm, haha 20" would be like almost 2 feet!

So a little under 10" is how high it really is

GSMguy · 12/10/2006, 02:24 PM

20cm sounds better i was going to say...
and by the way your avatar is super creepy

twon8 · 12/10/2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dirtyreefer
Actually what I meant to say is 20cm, haha 20" would be like almost 2 feet!

So a little under 10" is how high it really is

you rest of the world with your metric system...

dvanacker · 12/10/2006, 03:02 PM

Metric makes sense.......

Although in Canada we kinda take our own approach. Speed and distance is in kilometers (per hour). Weight is usually in pounds when talking about someones weight..but when talking about the weight of an item it might be in kilograms. When shoping for most tools and hardware depending on the industry a lot times its standard inches but then again you pretty much have to have 2 sets of tools.

Some people still can't comprehend the celcius when it comes to temperature.....I'm somewhat young and was taught celius over farenheit. I think I want to sing canadian idiot right now.

It can get confusing....sorry to get off subject. Dirty...very wierd problem ....especially since eveything sounds healthy. I would start looking at the fish funny.

SDguy · 12/10/2006, 03:22 PM

Metric is one word.....EASY

tiny tentacle · 12/10/2006, 08:03 PM

I recently have great polyp extension for a few months now before i don't know what was wrong? I have the same fish and the only thing that I changed was I added bacteria
http://www.robsreef.com/Merchant2/me...gory_Code=prod
the polyps opened up and i noticed weekly additions of this good bacteria helped to increase polyp extension . Now I hold off on the bacteria and the polyps are still out.
Your live rock is sometimes not enough to support the nitrification cycle. ?? this is my theory?

dirtyreefer · 12/10/2006, 09:46 PM

I used a product similar to prodibio and this did lower my nitrates down to zero but didn't help with PE. I am not totally convinced that the lack of PE is due to nitrates, but would love to entertain ideas telling me otherwise

bogg · 12/10/2006, 10:42 PM

IMO If you have nipping angels or whatever in your tank this is probably the culprit. I had 2 angels in my old sps tank and the coral actually knew what certain spots of it would not get picked on. It would have great pe on the inside of the branches not the outside or the tips. I would yank any angels and watch the polyps rage in all their glory. The coral is probably protecting itself from nips. I now have no nipping fish in my current setup and guess what great pe!. ( it's going to be a pain to catch them but just do it).

messy1messmer · 12/10/2006, 11:03 PM

i have had better pe after i took out my flame and put in the reef safe bellus angle.

dirtyreefer · 12/10/2006, 11:06 PM

The only suspect fish is my RS Regal, but my PE sucked even before I got him.

tonyscoots84 · 12/11/2006, 12:24 AM

here is a pic of a couple of my sps corals that have insane polyp extension why i dont no... all i no is i try to keep all levels consistent and temp everyday and i havent done a water change in about 3 months

...

i wish i could get better pics of my other sps corals but everything i have has great polyp extension...

jackson6745 · 12/11/2006, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tiny tentacle
I recently have great polyp extension for a few months now before i don't know what was wrong? I have the same fish and the only thing that I changed was I added bacteria
http://www.robsreef.com/Merchant2/me...gory_Code=prod
the polyps opened up and i noticed weekly additions of this good bacteria helped to increase polyp extension . Now I hold off on the bacteria and the polyps are still out.
Your live rock is sometimes not enough to support the nitrification cycle. ?? this is my theory?

Which one of these is bacteria?

tiny tentacle · 12/13/2006, 08:08 PM

Prodibio has a specific type of bacteria that may be just the right one ?
If your trying to order some prodibio make sure they have it in stock
There are problems importing the stuff from France with all the import regulations and biological warfare etc.
This bacteria had the same results in my friends tank... after 24hrs his sps polyps were PUMPED UP!

Ralph ATL · 12/13/2006, 10:12 PM

I have the same problem!
Phosphate: 0.024 (merk)
Trates: 0 (using Az-No)
As you can see, I have plenty of fish????? My Tunzes are on a multi controller also?

Tekno · 12/14/2006, 07:24 AM

this is my polyp extension:

Thanks
aqun

hiepatitis · 12/14/2006, 10:44 AM

hey dirtyreefer. do you have a pic of your sps? i want to see what you mean by no polyp extension

dirtyreefer · 12/14/2006, 11:29 AM

Yes, I'll take some tonight and post them

drock59 · 01/25/2007, 07:02 PM

so whats the word on the pics?

jackson6745 · 01/25/2007, 10:13 PM

I see a "moved on" under his name

12/10/2006, 02:24 PM	#32
GSMguy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northern New Mexico Posts: 17,420	20cm sounds better i was going to say... and by the way your avatar is super creepy __________________ Nick. Conehead. Shallow Reef club. Current Tank Info: 48"x27"x14" Envision Acrylic rimless, 6x39w ATi Sunpower, Custom ATB Deluxe Skimmer, 4x tunze nano stream,ATB flowstar 1500, ACJR, Tunze osmolator.

12/10/2006, 03:02 PM	#34
dvanacker DID I SOUNDS SMRT?? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ontario, CAN Posts: 3,690	Metric makes sense....... Although in Canada we kinda take our own approach. Speed and distance is in kilometers (per hour). Weight is usually in pounds when talking about someones weight..but when talking about the weight of an item it might be in kilograms. When shoping for most tools and hardware depending on the industry a lot times its standard inches but then again you pretty much have to have 2 sets of tools. Some people still can't comprehend the celcius when it comes to temperature.....I'm somewhat young and was taught celius over farenheit. I think I want to sing canadian idiot right now. It can get confusing....sorry to get off subject. Dirty...very wierd problem ....especially since eveything sounds healthy. I would start looking at the fish funny. __________________ --DARRYL-- Current Tank Info: 200g SPS dominant Mixed Reef

12/10/2006, 03:22 PM	#35
SDguy Fish heads unite! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 23,384	Metric is one word.....EASY __________________ Peter SDMAS member Marine tanks since 1989. ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º> ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><((((º> Current Tank Info: 240g butterfly and angel FOWLR. 15g QT.

12/10/2006, 10:42 PM	#38
bogg Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,174	IMO If you have nipping angels or whatever in your tank this is probably the culprit. I had 2 angels in my old sps tank and the coral actually knew what certain spots of it would not get picked on. It would have great pe on the inside of the branches not the outside or the tips. I would yank any angels and watch the polyps rage in all their glory. The coral is probably protecting itself from nips. I now have no nipping fish in my current setup and guess what great pe!. ( it's going to be a pain to catch them but just do it). __________________ And God said let the water teem with living creatures and he saw that it was good. Current Tank Info: Elos 120xl, 2 planet 2's, KZs, wavy sea/Tunze

12/10/2006, 11:03 PM	#39
messy1messmer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: fort collins co Posts: 1,252	i have had better pe after i took out my flame and put in the reef safe bellus angle. __________________ Save the world and the reefs Steve Messmer Current Tank Info: 120g sps,lps,zoas, tek T5 8x54, Mrc3, 5 tunze nano streams.

12/10/2006, 01:04 AM	#26
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	Good point about the polyp extension not always being a good thing. I just thought I would experiment with the flow to see if the polyps actually come out during the daylight hours. When you mention that you aim your 6100 on your back wall, I assume that it's mounted on the end of your tank though. That is fine since you are still blasting it lengthwise on your tank, even if it's bouncing off the front or back of the tank since the flow is going the length of the tank. But with mine, it would almost be like you mounting yours on the front of the tank and aiming it at the back of your tank. Not very effective but I get your point though

12/10/2006, 01:08 AM	#27
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	Great lookin tank btw

12/10/2006, 11:09 AM	#30
hobogato Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,517	20" off of the water for the halides might be a bit high, most people average 7" to 12" i believe.

12/10/2006, 02:09 PM	#31
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	Actually what I meant to say is 20cm, haha 20" would be like almost 2 feet! So a little under 10" is how high it really is

12/10/2006, 08:03 PM	#36
tiny tentacle Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Crystal Lake Posts: 381	I recently have great polyp extension for a few months now before i don't know what was wrong? I have the same fish and the only thing that I changed was I added bacteria http://www.robsreef.com/Merchant2/me...gory_Code=prod the polyps opened up and i noticed weekly additions of this good bacteria helped to increase polyp extension . Now I hold off on the bacteria and the polyps are still out. Your live rock is sometimes not enough to support the nitrification cycle. ?? this is my theory?

12/10/2006, 09:46 PM	#37
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	I used a product similar to prodibio and this did lower my nitrates down to zero but didn't help with PE. I am not totally convinced that the lack of PE is due to nitrates, but would love to entertain ideas telling me otherwise

12/10/2006, 11:06 PM	#40
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	The only suspect fish is my RS Regal, but my PE sucked even before I got him.

12/11/2006, 12:24 AM	#41
tonyscoots84 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Howell, NJ Posts: 322	here is a pic of a couple of my sps corals that have insane polyp extension why i dont no... all i no is i try to keep all levels consistent and temp everyday and i havent done a water change in about 3 months ... i wish i could get better pics of my other sps corals but everything i have has great polyp extension... __________________ 120 Gallon RR tank Sfligoi 2 x 400w radium bulbs w/4 t5's Current Tank Info: 120 gallon single overflow, Sflligoi 2x 400w radium with 4 t5's, 2 mp40's, tunze ato, skimz monster 203, eheim 1262 return, SPS all the way :)

12/13/2006, 08:08 PM	#43
tiny tentacle Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Crystal Lake Posts: 381	Pump up your polyps Prodibio has a specific type of bacteria that may be just the right one ? If your trying to order some prodibio make sure they have it in stock There are problems importing the stuff from France with all the import regulations and biological warfare etc. This bacteria had the same results in my friends tank... after 24hrs his sps polyps were PUMPED UP!

12/13/2006, 10:12 PM	#44
Ralph ATL Formerly mysterybox Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Flowery Branch, GA (North ATL) Posts: 1,842	I have the same problem! Phosphate: 0.024 (merk) Trates: 0 (using Az-No) As you can see, I have plenty of fish????? My Tunzes are on a multi controller also? __________________ Ralph Scheriff

12/14/2006, 07:24 AM	#45
Tekno Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: INDONESIA LOMBOK Posts: 39	this is my polyp extension: Thanks aqun __________________ Lighting: 3400W+360W actinic blue + 2W moon Light, Tunze:36100+Wavebox+MC7095+Osmolator Universal 3155, Deltec:AP902+PF600S+KM500+FR616 ROPS 5000 EXT skimmer And Teco Chiller R30 Current Tank Info: 280G Display

12/14/2006, 10:44 AM	#46
hiepatitis Moved On Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sunnyvale Posts: 774	hey dirtyreefer. do you have a pic of your sps? i want to see what you mean by no polyp extension

12/14/2006, 11:29 AM	#47
dirtyreefer Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver Canada Posts: 2,221	Yes, I'll take some tonight and post them

01/25/2007, 07:02 PM	#48
drock59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 3,802	so whats the word on the pics? __________________ Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 93g Marineland cube. SPS dominated. Vortech mp40. 2 x AI sol super blues. SRO 2000 int skimmer. Mag 18 return. Korallin 1500 calcium reactor.

01/25/2007, 10:13 PM	#49
jackson6745 Yeah Yeah Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rockaway Park, NY Posts: 5,822	I see a "moved on" under his name __________________ Richard - Officially done shipping coral. Don't ask! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2357196"]http://www.reefcentralcom/forums/showthread.php?t=2357196 Officially Done Shipping