WOOT lol Odyssea NEEDLE WHEEL skimmer! - Page 21

luke33 · 09/07/2007, 08:46 AM

ID is 1/4". Hmm, with my ps160 i had no problems with to much flow with the venturi and mods i made. I had one layer of mesh, the center tube was gone and the pump had the 1/4" venturi tube in a 1/2" male pvc fitting. It pulled 15scfh which was 3-5x's the stock venturi.

miatawnt2b · 09/08/2007, 08:34 AM

I would like to discuss another possible mod for the PS160. It seems that the top of the skimmer neck is very close to the lid of the collection cup. I wonder if the foam would flow into the cup better if the riser were trimmed down maybe 1/8" allowing for a bit more space between the riser and the lid.

thoughts?
-J

b16drag · 09/26/2007, 01:13 AM

Are you talking about a much more smoother transition into the collection cup? That might work, but dont you think it'd be more of a pain type of modification?

Also you got pics of your venturi with 5 tubes?

jefferzbooboo · 10/06/2007, 11:41 AM

Anyone ever tried a Maxi-jet hooked up to one of these?

FishAreFriends2 · 10/06/2007, 11:45 AM

Wow I havent seen this thread in ages, I dont see why note.

luke33 · 10/06/2007, 12:37 PM

Jefferzbooboo, what one of these are you talking about? The ps75? I don't think the MJ would do much more than the NW pump on it now.

mta · 10/06/2007, 01:08 PM

luke33 · 10/06/2007, 01:23 PM

If your going to add a new pump to it i'd go with a QO1200 for around 20bux. It will pull much more air then the mj1200 or ex250

b16drag · 10/07/2007, 01:20 AM

Luke,

On the PS160, do you think the EX550 pump from aquatraders would make any difference vs the stock pump? I know the stock pump is supposedly 500gph or something... (rating, smurting... I know)

Any thoughts?

luke33 · 10/07/2007, 09:58 AM

No, i don't think it would make a difference. I tried a genx2400 NW on it and it was to much no matter what i did. The 500gph pump works well modded. You can get 15scfh out of it, which is 3-5x's more han stock.

b16drag · 10/07/2007, 10:07 AM

Yea already did that luke... well see... Maybe I'll just extend the neck haha

supreme_being · 10/13/2007, 11:27 PM

This thread is breaking new ground for all the cheapies to bad I'm just now finding it.I have alot of reading to catch up on but anyway I just wanted to commend chevegan and all the other participants on one of the greatest RC threads around.Keep it comin.Peace

Danyal · 10/14/2007, 09:50 AM

so just to re-visit the results, how did the PS75 & PS160 compare to higher end skimmers? and the skimmers?

mta · 10/26/2007, 07:49 PM

Starting to kick in.No mods.Running as a secondary skimmer.Next to the etss 800.

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luke33 · 10/26/2007, 08:27 PM

Looks like you need more air! Have you removed the worthless extra tube inside of this skimmer? Also you can redo the pump venturi by taking a 1/2" male threaded pvc adapter and drill a 1/4" hose adapter right where the threads meet the pvc adapter, then take a very small piece of 1/2" pvc and insert it into the pvc side and put it right after the venturi air injector. You'll pull 15scfh and that will milk that skimmer out and give it all it can. Oh yea, and add a layer or two of mesh ; ) THen you have a skimmer that can handle a 55g tank.

mta · 10/26/2007, 08:48 PM

I ordered a Genx1000.When it comes in I will post pictures to compare before and after.

miatawnt2b · 10/27/2007, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by luke33
Looks like you need more air! Have you removed the worthless extra tube inside of this skimmer? Also you can redo the pump venturi by taking a 1/2" male threaded pvc adapter and drill a 1/4" hose adapter right where the threads meet the pvc adapter, then take a very small piece of 1/2" pvc and insert it into the pvc side and put it right after the venturi air injector. You'll pull 15scfh and that will milk that skimmer out and give it all it can. Oh yea, and add a layer or two of mesh ; ) THen you have a skimmer that can handle a 55g tank.

hey luke, do you happen to have a picture of this, It's about time I get back to playing with mine.
-J

luke33 · 10/27/2007, 12:53 PM

You want to take a very small piece of 1/2" pvc and slide it right to the air venturi then your done.

Hope that helps

jefferzbooboo · 11/02/2007, 10:14 PM

I was thinking either a Maxi-Jet 600 or 1200. Do I need to leave the cap on the collection cup or can I leave it off (I seem to have lost mine in my move). I'm using a PS75.

jefferzbooboo · 11/04/2007, 08:04 PM

I was also wondering if anyone else's skimmer quit skimming during feeding? I have the PS75 and use it HOB stock. I've used it HOB for over 6 months and have never had it overflow, like some have said.

luke33 · 11/04/2007, 08:22 PM

I've never had a skimmer not stop at feeding time. I don't think anyone on this thread has said the ps75 has overflown either, only the ps160. It would be better to leave the lid on, but i guess its not a necessity.

luke33 · 11/04/2007, 08:26 PM

Here's what your ps160 should look like.

HTH

miatawnt2b · 11/04/2007, 08:42 PM

luke,
what kind of crap are you pulling from your 160 daily?

-J

luke33 · 11/04/2007, 08:54 PM

I sold it for 45bux. I solely bought it to see what it could do. It was pulling around a cup a day of dark green skimmate off my 125g buuuut it was in my fuge so it wasn't getting but 1/5 the raw water it should. I'm guessing it should do a cup or more modded on a heavy bioload on a 55g or more.

ziac · 11/11/2007, 01:22 PM

I made a new venturi today for the stock pump that comes with a ps - 75 skimmer dyi on end. It is easy all the parts came from a extra maxi-jet stuff works much better also. This was not my idea for the venturi read about it on another thread though i would try it was so happy with the improvement i though i should post it here for ps-75 users

stock venturi i got it to work but never great

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take it apart

all the parts you need to make the venturi from maxi-jet one of the rubber adpters the small strainer to keep stuff out

the assembled unit

the put air line in hole stick on end of pump

09/08/2007, 08:34 AM	#502
miatawnt2b Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,467	I would like to discuss another possible mod for the PS160. It seems that the top of the skimmer neck is very close to the lid of the collection cup. I wonder if the foam would flow into the cup better if the riser were trimmed down maybe 1/8" allowing for a bit more space between the riser and the lid. thoughts? -J __________________ Proud member of the JTCCB (jebao tuners club for cheap bastards)

11/04/2007, 08:42 PM	#523
miatawnt2b Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,467	luke, what kind of crap are you pulling from your 160 daily? -J __________________ Proud member of the JTCCB (jebao tuners club for cheap bastards)

09/07/2007, 08:46 AM	#501
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	ID is 1/4". Hmm, with my ps160 i had no problems with to much flow with the venturi and mods i made. I had one layer of mesh, the center tube was gone and the pump had the 1/4" venturi tube in a 1/2" male pvc fitting. It pulled 15scfh which was 3-5x's the stock venturi.

09/26/2007, 01:13 AM	#503
b16drag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 903	Are you talking about a much more smoother transition into the collection cup? That might work, but dont you think it'd be more of a pain type of modification? Also you got pics of your venturi with 5 tubes?

10/06/2007, 11:41 AM	#504
jefferzbooboo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ND Posts: 118	Anyone ever tried a Maxi-jet hooked up to one of these?

10/06/2007, 11:45 AM	#505
FishAreFriends2 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,163	Wow I havent seen this thread in ages, I dont see why note.

10/06/2007, 12:37 PM	#506
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Jefferzbooboo, what one of these are you talking about? The ps75? I don't think the MJ would do much more than the NW pump on it now.

10/06/2007, 01:08 PM	#507
mta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: yonkers new york Posts: 418

10/06/2007, 01:23 PM	#508
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	If your going to add a new pump to it i'd go with a QO1200 for around 20bux. It will pull much more air then the mj1200 or ex250

10/07/2007, 01:20 AM	#509
b16drag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 903	Luke, On the PS160, do you think the EX550 pump from aquatraders would make any difference vs the stock pump? I know the stock pump is supposedly 500gph or something... (rating, smurting... I know) Any thoughts?

10/07/2007, 09:58 AM	#510
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	No, i don't think it would make a difference. I tried a genx2400 NW on it and it was to much no matter what i did. The 500gph pump works well modded. You can get 15scfh out of it, which is 3-5x's more han stock.

10/07/2007, 10:07 AM	#511
b16drag Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: California Posts: 903	Yea already did that luke... well see... Maybe I'll just extend the neck haha

10/13/2007, 11:27 PM	#512
supreme_being Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toledo Posts: 6	This thread is breaking new ground for all the cheapies to bad I'm just now finding it.I have alot of reading to catch up on but anyway I just wanted to commend chevegan and all the other participants on one of the greatest RC threads around.Keep it comin.Peace

10/14/2007, 09:50 AM	#513
Danyal Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: woodland Posts: 221	so just to re-visit the results, how did the PS75 & PS160 compare to higher end skimmers? and the skimmers?

10/26/2007, 07:49 PM	#514
mta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: yonkers new york Posts: 418	Starting to kick in.No mods.Running as a secondary skimmer.Next to the etss 800.

10/26/2007, 08:27 PM	#515
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Looks like you need more air! Have you removed the worthless extra tube inside of this skimmer? Also you can redo the pump venturi by taking a 1/2" male threaded pvc adapter and drill a 1/4" hose adapter right where the threads meet the pvc adapter, then take a very small piece of 1/2" pvc and insert it into the pvc side and put it right after the venturi air injector. You'll pull 15scfh and that will milk that skimmer out and give it all it can. Oh yea, and add a layer or two of mesh ; ) THen you have a skimmer that can handle a 55g tank.

10/26/2007, 08:48 PM	#516
mta Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: yonkers new york Posts: 418	I ordered a Genx1000.When it comes in I will post pictures to compare before and after.

10/27/2007, 12:53 PM	#518
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	You want to take a very small piece of 1/2" pvc and slide it right to the air venturi then your done. Hope that helps

11/02/2007, 10:14 PM	#519
jefferzbooboo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ND Posts: 118	I was thinking either a Maxi-Jet 600 or 1200. Do I need to leave the cap on the collection cup or can I leave it off (I seem to have lost mine in my move). I'm using a PS75.

11/04/2007, 08:04 PM	#520
jefferzbooboo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ND Posts: 118	I was also wondering if anyone else's skimmer quit skimming during feeding? I have the PS75 and use it HOB stock. I've used it HOB for over 6 months and have never had it overflow, like some have said.

11/04/2007, 08:22 PM	#521
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	I've never had a skimmer not stop at feeding time. I don't think anyone on this thread has said the ps75 has overflown either, only the ps160. It would be better to leave the lid on, but i guess its not a necessity.

11/04/2007, 08:26 PM	#522
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Here's what your ps160 should look like. HTH

11/04/2007, 08:54 PM	#524
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	I sold it for 45bux. I solely bought it to see what it could do. It was pulling around a cup a day of dark green skimmate off my 125g buuuut it was in my fuge so it wasn't getting but 1/5 the raw water it should. I'm guessing it should do a cup or more modded on a heavy bioload on a 55g or more.

11/11/2007, 01:22 PM	#525
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	I made a new venturi today for the stock pump that comes with a ps - 75 skimmer dyi on end. It is easy all the parts came from a extra maxi-jet stuff works much better also. This was not my idea for the venturi read about it on another thread though i would try it was so happy with the improvement i though i should post it here for ps-75 users stock venturi i got it to work but never great [ take it apart all the parts you need to make the venturi from maxi-jet one of the rubber adpters the small strainer to keep stuff out the assembled unit the put air line in hole stick on end of pump