280 gallon tank project has begun!!!!!! - Page 21

NexDog · 04/19/2006, 12:32 AM

Travis, ********** have it in stock:

http://www.**********.com/main.php?i...3&item_type=56
them if they had any a week or so back and Eric emailed me back when they got it in. SaltyCritter also have it in.

Travis · 04/19/2006, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by clkwrk
But I have been using the TMPCC since it was avail in the US I have had good success so far with only seeing damage every once in a while .

Hey clkwrk, are you seeing damage from the treatments or from the FW's?

clkwrk · 04/19/2006, 08:14 AM

fw's

Although really smooth bodied acros don't like the treatment if left in tooo long

Travis · 04/19/2006, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clkwrk
fw's

Although really smooth bodied acros don't like the treatment if left in tooo long

That doesn't surprise me since TMPCC is iodine based. My smooth bodied acros (bali tort-like and A. carduss) were the worst hit by the Reef Dip last night. I wonder why this is. Maybe the smooth bodied acros don't have as thick of a slime coat.

clkwrk · 04/19/2006, 09:39 PM

I believe that is correct .........Also they have way less polyp density....

Travis · 04/21/2006, 05:29 PM

I think I may finally have some good news, but don't want to jump the gun just yet. I decided to give up on the Reef Dip at 1 cap per cup of water for 15 minutes as it seemed to cause to much damage to the corals. I've also decided not to try the TMPCC right now because it is so expensive and is only good for 1 15 minute dip and then you need to make up a new solution.

I've decided that the levamisole is fairly effective, although not 100% at the 40ppm for 5 hours dosage. I know I lost a few corals after round 1 but I didn't lose a single coral after round 2. I think I may not have been prepared enough during round 1. For example, I don't think the water temp in the treatment and holding tanks was close enough and I didn't think the alkalinity was going to drop from 11 to 6.4 in the quarantine tank in a day or 2. After I saw the alk drop I hooked up the Ca reactor and the level has been a lot more stable. During round 2 I made sure that the water temp in all tanks was exactly the same. I lost no corals after round 2 so I think it may have had more to do with the water temp fluctuations and the sudden alk drop.

The 40ppm dose seems to really stress the FW's as they jump off the corals and stick to the bottom of the tank but it doesn't seem to finish them off. I decided to try to hit the corals with 60ppm this time. I came home on my lunch break today and started the treatment. I just checked the tank when I got home (4 hours into treatment) and I could only find 1 adult FW and it was toasted already. With the 40ppm treatments it seemed to wipe out the young FW's within 15 minutes but the adults were only stunned after 5 hours. But the adult I found this time is already dead for sure. This is the first adult I have found dead in any of my treatments.

This is good news in 2 ways.
1)This dosage seems to actually kill the adults.
2)It looks like I must have finally taken out almost all the adults in the 2nd treatmen. I found about 30-40 live adults after treatment 1. Then I found about 20 live adults after treatment 2. Now I can only find 1 adult 4 hours into this 60ppm treatment and it is dead. I may find more at the end when I take everything out of the tank.

The corals are looking the same as they did during the 40ppm treatments. Definitely stressed but they don't look any more stressed from the higher dosage. I guess only time will tell how they come around after the treatment. I plan to keep this treatment going for another hour or 2 just to be sure.

Dudester · 04/21/2006, 08:41 PM

Congratulations Travis on a positive turn of events! It's fantastic that you're documenting such thorough detail on your process of eradication. This information will be invaluable to counless reefers as we struggle to combat this most recent and difficult infestation (the AEFW's). Thanks for your attention to detail and good luck with the remainder of your treatment.

NexDog · 04/21/2006, 10:02 PM

Great news Travis. I bet your dying to see teh end of this issue! Is levamisole only availble fron a vet?

Travis · 04/21/2006, 10:43 PM

Thanks guys.

NexDog, levamisole can be purchased over-the-counter at your local farm supply store.

I just finished the treatment. I didn't find any more adults so it looks like progress is finally being made.

I did have a thermostat for one of my heaters malfunction in one of the holding tanks. I did the old faithful "feel test" right before I was going to start blasting and moving the corals into the holding tanks. One of them was hot, not warm but HOT. I checked the temp with my Ranco probe and it was 98 degrees. So that took me about 2 hours to get the temp down with water jugs filled with cold water. By the time I could start moving corals over they had been sitting in the treatment for about 8 hours. I inspected every nook and crannie on each coral even better than ever and even used a magnifying glass. I did find some small clutches on some of the corals. I think these are ones I missed before because they were small and very difficult to see. These ones were all on the rock that the corals were mounted on so they blended in even better. I covered all of the clutches I could find with superglue gel. Hopefully the corals will be ok. I do have a gut feeling that all will be fine. My biggest concern is that I'm leaving on Sunday to go to Chicago for IMAC and won't be back for a little over a week. So I won't be able to keep close tabs on my babies.

arconom · 04/22/2006, 06:10 AM

Travis I'm glad things are looking better

BTW I got the phosphate test kit thanks

tangdiver · 04/22/2006, 06:23 AM

Travis things for me went like yours...the heater started to go nuts...got to 80 degrees and I caught it...dang heaters. What is it with heaters. But did a little cooling down and finished moving corals. The seachem reef dip is doing wonders so far...hope and praying needed. I have a couple the were lighten up before treatment and still are...but other than that all ok. Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

Grant

Travis · 04/22/2006, 10:27 AM

Things are looking fine this morning. Some of the corals did seem to lighten up a little more than they did from the other treatments, but not enough to raise any red flags. I did lose a couple corals but they were ones that started going right after the Reef Dips and I left them in the tank because they were LE's and I didn't want to give up on them but they were probably going to go either way.

I forgot to mention that the water in the 30 gallon holding tank where the heater malfunctioned was cloudy. I'm guessing that the temperature rising to 98 degrees either killed some of the life in the water column or possibly caused an explosion in bacterial reproduction, either one could attribute to the cloudiness. The quarantine tank remained a bit cloudy through the night but seems to be almost as clear as normal this morning.

maxxII · 04/23/2006, 11:43 AM

Travis,
glad to hear your system is doign better. I will be going through my version of this shortly here. I've been directed to look at Praziquantil to treat against AEFW's by a pretty good source.

Do you recall if anyone already tried that route? I looked through the AEFW's in abowl thread, but didnt see anything re: Praziquantil.

Nick

Dudester · 04/23/2006, 04:09 PM

Don't know if it's directly appicable, but I tried Praziquantil for non-AEFW (the regular flatworms) in my 30g tank and it didn't appear to help. I gave 2 treatments at just over recommended dose. The only thing that seems to help my flatworm problem is my sixline wrasse. I've had no luck eradicating them with either FWE or PraziPro. Just my 0.02.

tangdiver · 04/23/2006, 05:14 PM

I do not know if they treat external flatworms...we used it in the public aquariums for internal parasites...not much luck for external from what I hear...IMO....

good luck...I have been doing the ml per 1 cup tank water of the Seachem Coral Dip...and so far doing good...lost 2 colonies but they were not hot to begin with...and lost 4 frags...but just my opinion...

Grant

Travis · 05/01/2006, 11:26 AM

I have not hear any other reports of prazi being used for AEFW's yet.

Got back from my week long vacation last night. I was just leaving the IMAC conference last night and got a call from my mom about 2 minutes later. She had come over to feed the fish and noticed water all over the floor in the tank room. To make a long story short, the overflow got restricted, the tank began to overflow, the auto-top-off added 40 gallons of RO/DI to the 75 gallon tank, after the top-off tub emptied, the QT tank sump then emptied and all of the pumps and heater ran dry until my mom got there. Does this sound familiar to anyone? This is pretty close to the same thing that crashed my 75 gallon sps tank a couple years ago.

I made sure to have 100 gallons of fresh saltwater made up and aerating while I was gone just in case something came up. So I had my mom add about 15 gallons of this to a rubbermaid tub. I then had her check the salinity in the Q tank. It was 20 ppt. So I had her add 16 cups of salt to that 15 gallons of saltwater and let it mix for an hour. Then I had her do a water change with that water. After the water change, the tank was right on the knob at 35ppt. I didn't want her to start running the sump until I could get home and see what was up so I just had her run the tank with the powerheads in it. Now the problem was the heater. It had been running dry for anywhere from 2-24 hours so I did not trust it. I just had her leave the tank heaterless until I got home. I must admit, I didn't think the damage would be that bad as the corals should be able to tolerate that salinity drop for a little while. But the combination of the salinity drop and the cold water (70 degrees when I got home) took their toll. I figured I might lose a couple corals but was suprised when I got home and over half of the acros in the Q tank were sloughing tissue.

Got home about 2am and stayed up until 7am raising the water temp, fragging, and doing a 80% water change.

Really starting to get sick of all this crap.

asnatlas · 05/01/2006, 11:57 AM

Dang man, I am soo sorry to hear

Hang in there it will get better...

melev · 05/01/2006, 02:14 PM

Hop · 05/01/2006, 02:19 PM

Give it a week and re-evaluate... You come so far, hate to see you get frustrated!

Lunchbucket · 05/01/2006, 07:18 PM

dang man!! after a great week i'm sorry to hear you loosing so much! hope the stuff ends up making it!! i'll be praying everything pulls through. i feel terrible for all you tough luck buddy....it HAS to stop soon!

i guess i just really glad it wasn't the 280gal tank!

keep us posted buddy!

Lunchbucket

arconom · 05/01/2006, 07:45 PM

Sorry to hear this Travis

OMG man the only difference is that last time you had the kalk reactor keep adding the kalkwasser water

I wish I had a mom like yours

NexDog · 05/01/2006, 09:00 PM

Sounds similar to that guy that had a fire in his garage. He went through a period of disaster after disaster. Just learn from it and move on. In the end you'll have a super-robust system. In this case, dual overflows and having a smaller RODI reservoir? I work about this so only have a 10g reservoir on the auto-topoff with a 50g next to that and I choose to manually pump in water from one to the other every 3 days. They are connected so just need to flick a switch for that.

Man, you must be left with 1/4 of your original corals now.

clkwrk · 05/01/2006, 09:36 PM

Man I feel for you

It is a terrible loss.

I wish you the best of luck getting things back in order.

kau_cinta_ku · 05/01/2006, 10:38 PM

very sorry to hear that you and Grant both had bad reactions to your tanks after getting back from the meeting.

it is amazing how everything can be working perfect but the time when you leave for a vacation is the time everything goes wrong. which makes me always scared of leaving the tank for a couple of days.

but hang in there and you will pull through this. it is always the learing part which is the most difficult. i feel you will pull through this very strong.

Wish you the best of luck and let me know if there is anything i can do to help.

Travis · 05/04/2006, 09:41 AM

Suprisingly, things turned around fast in the quarantine tank. After I got home and got things taken care of and did a large water change, there has been no more recession and no more losses. Only 3 corals ended up being total losses so that isn't so bad. I thought things were going to be much worse because, IME, once you see tissue blowing in the breeze, there is a very small chance to bring the coral around. But in this case it was different. The corals just needed to back in the water parameters they are used to. The corals have been improving daily through the week and are now looking as good as they were before I left. Tomorrow night I am going to hit them with the 4th and final treatment of levamisole. I will hit them with 60ppm for 6-7 hours again. At the end of the treatment, they will be blasted one by one with a powerhead and then transferred back to the display.

The last couple days I have spent a lot of time re-aquascaping the tank. I am doing something different this time. I've decided to get rid of the eggcrate as I didn't care for the look and the pvc risers were a flawed design because I didn't cap them off so they were collecting detritus and creating localized areas of nutrient leaks. This time I am using acrylic rod to build a much more open structure and make rock "legs" that elevate the rock off the bottom of the tank. The acrylic rod works really well. It is allowing me to build very open structures that are also very stable. But it is also time consuming. I spent about 6 hours Tuesday night working on it and then another 4 hours last night. I'm almost finished. I am guessing another 2-3 hours tonight and it will be finished.

04/19/2006, 12:32 AM	#501
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Travis, ******** have it in stock: http://www.********.com/main.php?i...3&item_type=56 them if they had any a week or so back and Eric emailed me back when they got it in. SaltyCritter also have it in. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

04/19/2006, 08:14 AM	#503
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	fw's Although really smooth bodied acros don't like the treatment if left in tooo long __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

04/19/2006, 09:39 PM	#505
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	I believe that is correct .........Also they have way less polyp density.... __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

04/21/2006, 05:29 PM	#506
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	I think I may finally have some good news, but don't want to jump the gun just yet. I decided to give up on the Reef Dip at 1 cap per cup of water for 15 minutes as it seemed to cause to much damage to the corals. I've also decided not to try the TMPCC right now because it is so expensive and is only good for 1 15 minute dip and then you need to make up a new solution. I've decided that the levamisole is fairly effective, although not 100% at the 40ppm for 5 hours dosage. I know I lost a few corals after round 1 but I didn't lose a single coral after round 2. I think I may not have been prepared enough during round 1. For example, I don't think the water temp in the treatment and holding tanks was close enough and I didn't think the alkalinity was going to drop from 11 to 6.4 in the quarantine tank in a day or 2. After I saw the alk drop I hooked up the Ca reactor and the level has been a lot more stable. During round 2 I made sure that the water temp in all tanks was exactly the same. I lost no corals after round 2 so I think it may have had more to do with the water temp fluctuations and the sudden alk drop. The 40ppm dose seems to really stress the FW's as they jump off the corals and stick to the bottom of the tank but it doesn't seem to finish them off. I decided to try to hit the corals with 60ppm this time. I came home on my lunch break today and started the treatment. I just checked the tank when I got home (4 hours into treatment) and I could only find 1 adult FW and it was toasted already. With the 40ppm treatments it seemed to wipe out the young FW's within 15 minutes but the adults were only stunned after 5 hours. But the adult I found this time is already dead for sure. This is the first adult I have found dead in any of my treatments. This is good news in 2 ways. 1)This dosage seems to actually kill the adults. 2)It looks like I must have finally taken out almost all the adults in the 2nd treatmen. I found about 30-40 live adults after treatment 1. Then I found about 20 live adults after treatment 2. Now I can only find 1 adult 4 hours into this 60ppm treatment and it is dead. I may find more at the end when I take everything out of the tank. The corals are looking the same as they did during the 40ppm treatments. Definitely stressed but they don't look any more stressed from the higher dosage. I guess only time will tell how they come around after the treatment. I plan to keep this treatment going for another hour or 2 just to be sure. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

04/21/2006, 08:41 PM	#507
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	Congratulations Travis on a positive turn of events! It's fantastic that you're documenting such thorough detail on your process of eradication. This information will be invaluable to counless reefers as we struggle to combat this most recent and difficult infestation (the AEFW's). Thanks for your attention to detail and good luck with the remainder of your treatment. __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

04/21/2006, 10:02 PM	#508
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Great news Travis. I bet your dying to see teh end of this issue! Is levamisole only availble fron a vet? __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

04/21/2006, 10:43 PM	#509
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Thanks guys. NexDog, levamisole can be purchased over-the-counter at your local farm supply store. I just finished the treatment. I didn't find any more adults so it looks like progress is finally being made. I did have a thermostat for one of my heaters malfunction in one of the holding tanks. I did the old faithful "feel test" right before I was going to start blasting and moving the corals into the holding tanks. One of them was hot, not warm but HOT. I checked the temp with my Ranco probe and it was 98 degrees. So that took me about 2 hours to get the temp down with water jugs filled with cold water. By the time I could start moving corals over they had been sitting in the treatment for about 8 hours. I inspected every nook and crannie on each coral even better than ever and even used a magnifying glass. I did find some small clutches on some of the corals. I think these are ones I missed before because they were small and very difficult to see. These ones were all on the rock that the corals were mounted on so they blended in even better. I covered all of the clutches I could find with superglue gel. Hopefully the corals will be ok. I do have a gut feeling that all will be fine. My biggest concern is that I'm leaving on Sunday to go to Chicago for IMAC and won't be back for a little over a week. So I won't be able to keep close tabs on my babies. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

04/22/2006, 06:10 AM	#510
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	Travis I'm glad things are looking better BTW I got the phosphate test kit thanks

04/22/2006, 06:23 AM	#511
tangdiver Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,231	Travis things for me went like yours...the heater started to go nuts...got to 80 degrees and I caught it...dang heaters. What is it with heaters. But did a little cooling down and finished moving corals. The seachem reef dip is doing wonders so far...hope and praying needed. I have a couple the were lighten up before treatment and still are...but other than that all ok. Just thought I would throw in my 2 cents. Grant __________________ Its unwise to pay to much or to little When U pay to much U lose a little $ When U pay to little U sometimes lose it all because the thing U bought was incapable of doing the thing U bought it to do Current Tank Info: 6' long, 3' wide, 2' high, My tank is not worthy of Tank of the Month

04/22/2006, 10:27 AM	#512
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Things are looking fine this morning. Some of the corals did seem to lighten up a little more than they did from the other treatments, but not enough to raise any red flags. I did lose a couple corals but they were ones that started going right after the Reef Dips and I left them in the tank because they were LE's and I didn't want to give up on them but they were probably going to go either way. I forgot to mention that the water in the 30 gallon holding tank where the heater malfunctioned was cloudy. I'm guessing that the temperature rising to 98 degrees either killed some of the life in the water column or possibly caused an explosion in bacterial reproduction, either one could attribute to the cloudiness. The quarantine tank remained a bit cloudy through the night but seems to be almost as clear as normal this morning. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump

04/23/2006, 11:43 AM	#513
maxxII Super Housemonkey! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St Louis Mo Posts: 4,442	Travis, glad to hear your system is doign better. I will be going through my version of this shortly here. I've been directed to look at Praziquantil to treat against AEFW's by a pretty good source. Do you recall if anyone already tried that route? I looked through the AEFW's in abowl thread, but didnt see anything re: Praziquantil. Nick __________________ A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn, that was fun!"

04/23/2006, 04:09 PM	#514
Dudester Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,218	Don't know if it's directly appicable, but I tried Praziquantil for non-AEFW (the regular flatworms) in my 30g tank and it didn't appear to help. I gave 2 treatments at just over recommended dose. The only thing that seems to help my flatworm problem is my sixline wrasse. I've had no luck eradicating them with either FWE or PraziPro. Just my 0.02. __________________ The Dude abides Current Tank Info: building a new home tank l 450g office tank with Deltec everything

04/23/2006, 05:14 PM	#515
tangdiver Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sioux Falls South Dakota Posts: 1,231	I do not know if they treat external flatworms...we used it in the public aquariums for internal parasites...not much luck for external from what I hear...IMO.... good luck...I have been doing the ml per 1 cup tank water of the Seachem Coral Dip...and so far doing good...lost 2 colonies but they were not hot to begin with...and lost 4 frags...but just my opinion... Grant __________________ Its unwise to pay to much or to little When U pay to much U lose a little $ When U pay to little U sometimes lose it all because the thing U bought was incapable of doing the thing U bought it to do Current Tank Info: 6' long, 3' wide, 2' high, My tank is not worthy of Tank of the Month

05/01/2006, 11:26 AM	#516
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	I have not hear any other reports of prazi being used for AEFW's yet. Got back from my week long vacation last night. I was just leaving the IMAC conference last night and got a call from my mom about 2 minutes later. She had come over to feed the fish and noticed water all over the floor in the tank room. To make a long story short, the overflow got restricted, the tank began to overflow, the auto-top-off added 40 gallons of RO/DI to the 75 gallon tank, after the top-off tub emptied, the QT tank sump then emptied and all of the pumps and heater ran dry until my mom got there. Does this sound familiar to anyone? This is pretty close to the same thing that crashed my 75 gallon sps tank a couple years ago. I made sure to have 100 gallons of fresh saltwater made up and aerating while I was gone just in case something came up. So I had my mom add about 15 gallons of this to a rubbermaid tub. I then had her check the salinity in the Q tank. It was 20 ppt. So I had her add 16 cups of salt to that 15 gallons of saltwater and let it mix for an hour. Then I had her do a water change with that water. After the water change, the tank was right on the knob at 35ppt. I didn't want her to start running the sump until I could get home and see what was up so I just had her run the tank with the powerheads in it. Now the problem was the heater. It had been running dry for anywhere from 2-24 hours so I did not trust it. I just had her leave the tank heaterless until I got home. I must admit, I didn't think the damage would be that bad as the corals should be able to tolerate that salinity drop for a little while. But the combination of the salinity drop and the cold water (70 degrees when I got home) took their toll. I figured I might lose a couple corals but was suprised when I got home and over half of the acros in the Q tank were sloughing tissue. Got home about 2am and stayed up until 7am raising the water temp, fragging, and doing a 80% water change. Really starting to get sick of all this crap.

05/01/2006, 11:57 AM	#517
asnatlas Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waukee, IA Posts: 4,198	Dang man, I am soo sorry to hear Hang in there it will get better... __________________ Shawn

05/01/2006, 02:14 PM	#518
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217

05/01/2006, 02:19 PM	#519
Hop Carpe Noctem!!! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Western Colorado Posts: 8,548	Give it a week and re-evaluate... You come so far, hate to see you get frustrated! __________________ Hop Current Tank Info: 300-gallon in-wall system (mixed reef)

05/01/2006, 07:18 PM	#520
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	dang man!! after a great week i'm sorry to hear you loosing so much! hope the stuff ends up making it!! i'll be praying everything pulls through. i feel terrible for all you tough luck buddy....it HAS to stop soon! i guess i just really glad it wasn't the 280gal tank! keep us posted buddy! Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

05/01/2006, 07:45 PM	#521
arconom Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 2,126	Sorry to hear this Travis OMG man the only difference is that last time you had the kalk reactor keep adding the kalkwasser water I wish I had a mom like yours

05/01/2006, 09:00 PM	#522
NexDog Snail Killer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kyushu, Japan Posts: 4,804	Sounds similar to that guy that had a fire in his garage. He went through a period of disaster after disaster. Just learn from it and move on. In the end you'll have a super-robust system. In this case, dual overflows and having a smaller RODI reservoir? I work about this so only have a 10g reservoir on the auto-topoff with a 50g next to that and I choose to manually pump in water from one to the other every 3 days. They are connected so just need to flick a switch for that. Man, you must be left with 1/4 of your original corals now. __________________ Laurence Flynn 340g In-Wall Envision Tank and 150g Sump. Current Tank Info: Deltec 902, PFO hood with 3x400w Radium 20k and 4x96w PC's. Hammerhead closed loop - and 2 x Tunze 6105 (and Vortech still sucks).

05/01/2006, 09:36 PM	#523
clkwrk Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mesa ,Az Posts: 10,257	Man I feel for you It is a terrible loss. I wish you the best of luck getting things back in order. __________________ ------- Feel free to use my photos for ONLY informative sites, education or enjoyment.All I ask is to include my Reef Central User id and where you got the photo ( RC).

05/01/2006, 10:38 PM	#524
kau_cinta_ku Moved On Join Date: May 2005 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 8,669	very sorry to hear that you and Grant both had bad reactions to your tanks after getting back from the meeting. it is amazing how everything can be working perfect but the time when you leave for a vacation is the time everything goes wrong. which makes me always scared of leaving the tank for a couple of days. but hang in there and you will pull through this. it is always the learing part which is the most difficult. i feel you will pull through this very strong. Wish you the best of luck and let me know if there is anything i can do to help.

05/04/2006, 09:41 AM	#525
Travis 10 and over club Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,525	Suprisingly, things turned around fast in the quarantine tank. After I got home and got things taken care of and did a large water change, there has been no more recession and no more losses. Only 3 corals ended up being total losses so that isn't so bad. I thought things were going to be much worse because, IME, once you see tissue blowing in the breeze, there is a very small chance to bring the coral around. But in this case it was different. The corals just needed to back in the water parameters they are used to. The corals have been improving daily through the week and are now looking as good as they were before I left. Tomorrow night I am going to hit them with the 4th and final treatment of levamisole. I will hit them with 60ppm for 6-7 hours again. At the end of the treatment, they will be blasted one by one with a powerhead and then transferred back to the display. The last couple days I have spent a lot of time re-aquascaping the tank. I am doing something different this time. I've decided to get rid of the eggcrate as I didn't care for the look and the pvc risers were a flawed design because I didn't cap them off so they were collecting detritus and creating localized areas of nutrient leaks. This time I am using acrylic rod to build a much more open structure and make rock "legs" that elevate the rock off the bottom of the tank. The acrylic rod works really well. It is allowing me to build very open structures that are also very stable. But it is also time consuming. I spent about 6 hours Tuesday night working on it and then another 4 hours last night. I'm almost finished. I am guessing another 2-3 hours tonight and it will be finished. __________________ TOTM August 08 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Current Tank Info: 280 sps w/ 75 LPS, 75 refugium, 120 sump