The T5 Q&a Thread - split - Page 219

TropTrea · 12/31/2014, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raul-7

I have yet to see an aquarium lit with LEDs come close to those lit with T5's.

I would say this is largely because most people that use LED do not understand them. And the comercial LED fixtures are not always using the latest technology..

The big factor comes in when they use specific color LED's. When you put in a blue LED you get strictly blue light from it not a wide spectrum blue like you get from a B+ T-5 Bulb.

The other big issue is that it extremly difficult to produce a LED that is effecient in the 480 to 520 nm range. Since there little demand for LED's in this range few major LED manufacturers put much effort into it. Therefore I like to combine B+ T-5's with the LED's to get the best of both worlds.

DiscusHeckel · 12/31/2014, 02:32 PM

Hi Dennis,

I have recently bought a brand new Powermodule (8 X 39W) and use the following tubes: 5 X ATI Blue + and 3 X ATI Coral +, i.e.

front blue + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + back

You kindly provided me with a spectrum chart for my previous tube combination (3 X ATI Blue + and 3 X Coral +) in the past. I wonder if you could possibly provide me with another spectrum chart for my new tube combination please.

My corals look OK, but purples and pinks do not look vivid under this combination. In this context, I am wondering whether it would be OK if I replaced one of the C+s with a Aquablue special or purple +, i.e.

front blue + blue + coral + blue + abs/purple+ blue + coral + blue + back

Happy new year

moondoggy4 · 12/31/2014, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiji4118

And where is everyone getting bulbs now? I last ordered from reefgeek but I think they are gone now.

I bought mine from Marine Depot if you order 6 bulb 54 watt, shipping is free.

tgee · 01/02/2015, 08:50 AM

For a new 60 gallon cube (24x24x24) I'm leaning towards an ATI Sunpower 6x24 or 8x24. It will be an LPS-dominated mixed reef, so some SPS, etc. Are 6 bulbs enough or would 8 bulbs be better for more options, or would 8 be too much?

Thanks.

rtparty · 01/02/2015, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgee

For a new 60 gallon cube (24x24x24) I'm leaning towards an ATI Sunpower 6x24 or 8x24. It will be an LPS-dominated mixed reef, so some SPS, etc. Are 6 bulbs enough or would 8 bulbs be better for more options, or would 8 be too much?

Thanks.

For LPS dominated, the 6 bulb will be fine. 8 will be a little much unless you like running actinic bulbs

joshbrookkate · 01/02/2015, 11:23 AM

I SO appreciate having someone guiding me with this!
I am planning a 75 gallon with softies, anemones, clowns, probably some lps and possibly some sps in the future. I have a used Nova Extreme Pro 6 bulb fixture that needs replacement bulbs. I have an Orbit Current 48" fixture as well. What replacement bulbs do you recommend? Can I use the LED fixture, too?

rtparty · 01/02/2015, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshbrookkate

I SO appreciate having someone guiding me with this!
I am planning a 75 gallon with softies, anemones, clowns, probably some lps and possibly some sps in the future. I have a used Nova Extreme Pro 6 bulb fixture that needs replacement bulbs. I have an Orbit Current 48" fixture as well. What replacement bulbs do you recommend? Can I use the LED fixture, too?

3 blue plus and 3 coral plus is a good start. Grab an extra blue plus to play with as well.

The 6 bulb fixture will be plenty of light

joshbrookkate · 01/03/2015, 09:11 PM

Great! I'll buy those. What do you recommend for acclimation process from the leds to the T5?

rogergolf66 · 01/03/2015, 10:02 PM

I may be picking up a 300 dd cut twenty I run ati fixture on current much smaller tank. What fixture do I need for the 300dd? I keep sps and some LPS and zoa

TropTrea · 01/04/2015, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscusHeckel

Hi Dennis,

I have recently bought a brand new Powermodule (8 X 39W) and use the following tubes: 5 X ATI Blue + and 3 X ATI Coral +, i.e.

front blue + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + back

You kindly provided me with a spectrum chart for my previous tube combination (3 X ATI Blue + and 3 X Coral +) in the past. I wonder if you could possibly provide me with another spectrum chart for my new tube combination please.

My corals look OK, but purples and pinks do not look vivid under this combination. In this context, I am wondering whether it would be OK if I replaced one of the C+s with a Aquablue special or purple +, i.e.

front blue + blue + coral + blue + abs/purple+ blue + coral + blue + back

Happy new year

I have drasticly cut back my Reefs tanks over the last 8 months.

On my 120 gallon thank I had the best results with color and coral growth using an 8 bulb fixture using the following combination

Front
1 ATI Blue Plus
2 ATI Purple Plus
3 ATI Blue Plus
4 GE 6,500K
5 ATI Blue Plus
6 ATI Purple Plus
7 ATI Blue Plus
8 ATI Blue Plus
Rear

On my smaller Tanks with only 6 bulbs I found That using T-t bulbs I also got fantastic Results using the following:

Front
1 Gman Aquablue Azure
2 Gman Aquablue Coral
3 Gman Tropical
4 Gman Atinic Blue
5 Gman Super Purple
6 Gman Aquablue Coral
Rear

With my combination LED- T-5's I originally used only ATI Blue Plus to suplement the LED's but have switched to the GMAN AquaBlue Azure when mixed with LED's at a ratio of 3 Royal Blue (454nm) to 1 Neutral White (4,500K).

Dr Colliebreath · 01/04/2015, 08:59 PM

I have an ATI Sunpower with 6 bulbs (48") on a 110 gallon, fish only tank. My bulbs are 3 blue+ (ATI), 1 purple+ (ATI), 1 coral+ (ATI), and a midday (6000K Geisemann).

My light fixture has two channels, with two bulbs on one channel and 4 bulbs on the other. I am thinking of using the following bulb combination and schedule:

1. Lights on at 7:30 am with the 2-bulb channel: 1 blue+ and 1 coral+ for 3.5 hours.
2. At 11 am, switching to the 4-bulb channel - 2 blue+, 1 purple+, and 1 white for 7 hours. The 2 channel bulbs will be off.
3. At 6 pm, back to the 2-bulb channel until 9:30 pm. The 4-channel bulbs will be off.

Do you think this is a good setup to start with or is there a better combination of bulbs?

This is a fish only tank and my only plants are algae that has cropped up the past 6 months (tank has been up 4 years) so I have been turning off all light for 4 hours during the middle of the day.

Dr Colliebreath · 01/04/2015, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondoggy4

I bought mine from Marine Depot if you order 6 bulb 54 watt, shipping is free.

I bought mine at Marine Depot also. Same deal - six ship free. I bought 5 ATI and a Geisemann.

tinnghe · 01/06/2015, 03:28 PM

thinking about getting back to T5. I'm currently running 2 Radions gen 1, and not very happy with the light. My tank dimension is 48x24x20h. How many bulbs should I get and what is the current top T5 light?

swk · 01/06/2015, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinnghe

thinking about getting back to T5. I'm currently running 2 Radions gen 1, and not very happy with the light. My tank dimension is 48x24x20h. How many bulbs should I get and what is the current top T5 light?

I would say an 8 bulb unit, as would most I believe. 48" length, although you may get by with a 36" fixture if you like low light corals as well.

Can't beat ati for t5 fixtures.

rogergolf66 · 01/07/2015, 07:39 AM

How many bulbs for a 300 gall dd 6ftx3ftx 27in tank

And

How many bulbs for a

6Ftx 30in x 25in tank?

Both tanks looking to keep sps acros and some lps

rtparty · 01/07/2015, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogergolf66

How many bulbs for a 300 gall dd 6ftx3ftx 27in tank

And

How many bulbs for a

6Ftx 30in x 25in tank?

Both tanks looking to keep sps acros and some lps

12 - 60" bulbs on the first and 10 - 48" or 60" bulbs on the second

rtparty · 01/07/2015, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinnghe

thinking about getting back to T5. I'm currently running 2 Radions gen 1, and not very happy with the light. My tank dimension is 48x24x20h. How many bulbs should I get and what is the current top T5 light?

8 bulb ATI would work well. If you have the dough then the ATI LED Powermodule is perfect

MarksReef · 01/07/2015, 09:17 AM

rtparty
On my 8x24 , what do you recommend for lighting schedule?
I have channel 1 with 2 blue+ and channel 2 with 2 coral, 1 purple+,3 blue+
Bulbs are 10 inches off of water and I don't dim them maybe I should.

rogergolf66 · 01/07/2015, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtparty

12 - 60" bulbs on the first and 10 - 48" or 60" bulbs on the second

48In fixture on a 72in tank?

rtparty · 01/07/2015, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogergolf66

48In fixture on a 72in tank?

I read 6ft as 60". Sorry lol

Stick with 60" for sure

rtparty · 01/07/2015, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarksReef

rtparty
On my 8x24 , what do you recommend for lighting schedule?
I have channel 1 with 2 blue+ and channel 2 with 2 coral, 1 purple+,3 blue+
Bulbs are 10 inches off of water and I don't dim them maybe I should.

I usually ran channel 1 for 12 hours and channel 2 depended on how my corals looked. Anywhere from 4 to 8 hours.

mhucasey · 01/07/2015, 03:51 PM

Here is an interesting tidbit I found. I have been using a Actinic bulb for a while now and have seen a positive effect in coloration and growth has been very good. I originally replaced a blue plus with an actinic because I found that the "best growth" metal halides, usually had a very large peak at 420nm and not much at 450-470 where our blue bulbs peak.
Anyway, the common thought is that the actinic bulbs are only for color, and have no usefulness for growth, especially because they put out comparatively low par. I then found this:

From an old review article, note the low par of the actinic bulb in relation to the others. They also tested PUR(which is Photosynthetically Usable Radiation) and which may be a better piece of data than PAR. For the same three bulbs, it is very interesting:

Perhaps a bit more 420nm light is indeed useful...

silas k · 01/08/2015, 09:38 AM

Just installed this combo after suggestions from this thread
B+
C+
B+
C+

Nice color but my, the leds have spoilt me in the umpff and spark of the blue LEDs lighting

rogergolf66 · 01/08/2015, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtparty

I read 6ft as 60". Sorry lol

Stick with 60" for sure

Ok thank.

rogergolf66 · 01/08/2015, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silas k

Just installed this combo after suggestions from this thread
B+
C+
B+
C+

Nice color but my, the leds have spoilt me in the umpff and spark of the blue LEDs lighting

I know what you mean. I run a strip of blue LEDs in the front for that reason along withmy 8 bulb t5

12/31/2014, 02:32 PM	#5452
DiscusHeckel Acropora Gardener Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 2,780	Hi Dennis, I have recently bought a brand new Powermodule (8 X 39W) and use the following tubes: 5 X ATI Blue + and 3 X ATI Coral +, i.e. front blue + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + coral + blue + back You kindly provided me with a spectrum chart for my previous tube combination (3 X ATI Blue + and 3 X Coral +) in the past. I wonder if you could possibly provide me with another spectrum chart for my new tube combination please. My corals look OK, but purples and pinks do not look vivid under this combination. In this context, I am wondering whether it would be OK if I replaced one of the C+s with a Aquablue special or purple +, i.e. front blue + blue + coral + blue + abs/purple+ blue + coral + blue + back Happy new year __________________ Featured Tank OCT 2016 \| "Reef Hobbyist Magazine" TOTM OCT 2016 \| "Ultimate Reef", UK FB \| "/troutsReefTank/" 65G SPS Reef- ATI 8 X 39W PM; TM [Bacto-Balance A-; Reef Actif; Nitribiotic; Iodine]

01/02/2015, 08:50 AM	#5454
tgee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 44	6x24 or 8x24 for 60 gal cube? For a new 60 gallon cube (24x24x24) I'm leaning towards an ATI Sunpower 6x24 or 8x24. It will be an LPS-dominated mixed reef, so some SPS, etc. Are 6 bulbs enough or would 8 bulbs be better for more options, or would 8 be too much? Thanks.

01/02/2015, 11:23 AM	#5456
joshbrookkate Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Windsor, ON Posts: 618	T5 bulbs recommendation I SO appreciate having someone guiding me with this! I am planning a 75 gallon with softies, anemones, clowns, probably some lps and possibly some sps in the future. I have a used Nova Extreme Pro 6 bulb fixture that needs replacement bulbs. I have an Orbit Current 48" fixture as well. What replacement bulbs do you recommend? Can I use the LED fixture, too?

01/03/2015, 10:02 PM	#5459
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	I may be picking up a 300 dd cut twenty I run ati fixture on current much smaller tank. What fixture do I need for the 300dd? I keep sps and some LPS and zoa __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

01/04/2015, 08:59 PM	#5461
Dr Colliebreath Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DC Vicinity Posts: 1,813	I have an ATI Sunpower with 6 bulbs (48") on a 110 gallon, fish only tank. My bulbs are 3 blue+ (ATI), 1 purple+ (ATI), 1 coral+ (ATI), and a midday (6000K Geisemann). My light fixture has two channels, with two bulbs on one channel and 4 bulbs on the other. I am thinking of using the following bulb combination and schedule: 1. Lights on at 7:30 am with the 2-bulb channel: 1 blue+ and 1 coral+ for 3.5 hours. 2. At 11 am, switching to the 4-bulb channel - 2 blue+, 1 purple+, and 1 white for 7 hours. The 2 channel bulbs will be off. 3. At 6 pm, back to the 2-bulb channel until 9:30 pm. The 4-channel bulbs will be off. Do you think this is a good setup to start with or is there a better combination of bulbs? This is a fish only tank and my only plants are algae that has cropped up the past 6 months (tank has been up 4 years) so I have been turning off all light for 4 hours during the middle of the day. __________________ Frank Current Tank Info: 110 Oceanic RR w/35 gal sump and SRO XP2000 int

01/03/2015, 09:11 PM	#5458
joshbrookkate Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Windsor, ON Posts: 618	Great! I'll buy those. What do you recommend for acclimation process from the leds to the T5?

01/06/2015, 03:28 PM	#5463
tinnghe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 800	thinking about getting back to T5. I'm currently running 2 Radions gen 1, and not very happy with the light. My tank dimension is 48x24x20h. How many bulbs should I get and what is the current top T5 light?

01/07/2015, 07:39 AM	#5465
rogergolf66 im an addict lol Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Land o lakes, FLorida Posts: 12,930	How many bulbs for a 300 gall dd 6ftx3ftx 27in tank And How many bulbs for a 6Ftx 30in x 25in tank? Both tanks looking to keep sps acros and some lps __________________ Goal levels: salinity 35ppt, temp 78-79, alk 8-9, cal 430-450, mag 1310-1400 po4 .03, no3 1-3 Current Tank Info: System 1... 100 gal Zoa tank I built, 30 gal Ric Yuma shroom tank, 30 gal mix tank my sons,40 gal softie tank, 40 gal nem tank, two 40 gal LPS tank. System 2... 240 gal SPS display attached 100 gal frag SPS only tank.

01/07/2015, 09:17 AM	#5468
MarksReef Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rush, N.Y. Posts: 4,058	rtparty On my 8x24 , what do you recommend for lighting schedule? I have channel 1 with 2 blue+ and channel 2 with 2 coral, 1 purple+,3 blue+ Bulbs are 10 inches off of water and I don't dim them maybe I should. __________________ 93G Rimless Cube Current Tank Info: 93G Rimless Cube

01/07/2015, 03:51 PM	#5472
mhucasey Acros & wieners, oh my! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 3,706	Here is an interesting tidbit I found. I have been using a Actinic bulb for a while now and have seen a positive effect in coloration and growth has been very good. I originally replaced a blue plus with an actinic because I found that the "best growth" metal halides, usually had a very large peak at 420nm and not much at 450-470 where our blue bulbs peak. Anyway, the common thought is that the actinic bulbs are only for color, and have no usefulness for growth, especially because they put out comparatively low par. I then found this: From an old review article, note the low par of the actinic bulb in relation to the others. They also tested PUR(which is Photosynthetically Usable Radiation) and which may be a better piece of data than PAR. For the same three bulbs, it is very interesting: Perhaps a bit more 420nm light is indeed useful... __________________ - Matt I call the big one "Bitey" - Homer Simpson See my tank thread here: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2468548 Current Tank Info: 120 Gallon Rimless Starphire Shallow Reef. Reef Octopus Diablo EXT-200 skimmer, Chaeto Reactor, Lighting: ATI Sunpower 8X39W, 6X39W Sunpower

01/08/2015, 09:38 AM	#5473
silas k Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Denmark Posts: 77	Just installed this combo after suggestions from this thread B+ C+ B+ C+ Nice color but my, the leds have spoilt me in the umpff and spark of the blue LEDs lighting

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