ETSS Skimmer Club! - Page 22

TomToro · 10/19/2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by suthrnmn

anybody here running a model 2000 and if so what is your pump??

I'm running a 1400 and am using a 250ps Panworld. Too much pump IMO. I'm always closing the air intakes to dry it out. I bet it would be perfect for the 2000. Also the Iwaki 100rlt (I think same specs).

BrassMonkey · 10/19/2009, 10:35 AM

im definitely sticking with etss in the future. it pulls X4 times more than my rs100 and i dont have to clean it every other day. this thing pulls amphipods!! see one every time i dump the cup.

jjk_reef00 · 10/20/2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TomToro

I'm running a 1400 and am using a 250ps Panworld. Too much pump IMO. I'm always closing the air intakes to dry it out. I bet it would be perfect for the 2000. Also the Iwaki 100rlt (I think same specs).

I think I'm having the same issue. When you say too much is there turbulence in the riser? I get big air bubbles that "throw the crap over" but it is throwing too much.

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Originally Posted by jrmx635

turbulance doesn't matter on downdraft skimmers.

needlewheels rely on the fine bubbles gently bringing the crap to the top,downdrafts use the bubbles to throw the crap out the top.
thats why high pressure is used.
if you put a bubble plate in a downdraft ,you may lose production.

I don't want a traditional bubble plate. I want one that will reduce the big air bubbles throwing crap. It should gently bubble over with dry bubbles. My ETSS 1500 did that when I had the Iwaki 100 on it. Probably because I think the pump is a perfect size, and maybe a little undersized.

My ETSS 5000 has a 1.5 hp pump. The air in the riser is crazy and I can see big air bubbles breaking the dry foam.

IMO, a bubble plate with moderately large holes wouldn't reduce performance. It would just break up those large air bubbles and help to produce dryer bubbles at the top.

jose7878 · 10/29/2009, 06:22 PM

I'm having a issue with my Reef Devil . Yesterday i cleaned the bio balls inside the chamber . After doing so the collection cup will fill up with clear water. but it's foam that goes into the cup but clear liquid. when i clean I didn't adjust anything . I'm running it with a iwaki 20rlt. Can someone help me don't know what to do now.

rigleautomotive · 10/29/2009, 06:35 PM

try valving the pump down a bit ,its just making a wetter skimmate then you are used to.which may not be a bad thing(wet skimming)

jose7878 · 10/29/2009, 06:42 PM

Okay i did close the vavle a little so pump isn't a full thorotle . now when you wet skim is it suppose to be crystal clear water in the cup.

rigleautomotive · 10/29/2009, 07:32 PM

well,tea colored would be nice

jjk_reef00 · 10/29/2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jose7878

Okay i did close the vavle a little so pump isn't a full thorotle . now when you wet skim is it suppose to be crystal clear water in the cup.

No it should have some tint. Is your gate valve on your skimmer all the way open? I don't think you shouldn't have to throttle your pump back. After I clean my skimmer I usually have to open the gate valve a little bit so it doesn't pull clear water (as you describe).

jose7878 · 10/29/2009, 07:52 PM

Yes the gate vavle is completely open . and the water is still clear , but it still foaming into cup.

jjk_reef00 · 10/29/2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jose7878

Yes the gate vavle is completely open . and the water is still clear , but it still foaming into cup.

Wow, then rigleautomotive is right you have to throttle back the pump a little bit. At least you know you are pushing the skimmer to its limits. With these skimmer a larger than recommended pump is much better than an undersized pump.

jose7878 · 10/29/2009, 08:25 PM

I don't understand what is happening because I had the iwaki 20rlt on it for 2 months with vavle wide open and it has performed like it should. I cleaned the bio balls and this happens . I see why people say " IF IT AIN"T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"

rigleautomotive · 10/29/2009, 08:46 PM

it will return to normal in a couple days.if it doesnt,remove the balls and try to place them in loosely to see if that helps

jose7878 · 10/29/2009, 09:05 PM

[QUOTE]it will return to normal in a couple days.if it doesnt,remove the balls and try to place them in loosely to see if that helps [/QUOTE
Well the balls are lose in there now. I believe that they were in there tight once I took them out to clean them now there lose getting too much air. Hopefully the sit in there and get back to normal.

jjk_reef00 · 10/30/2009, 12:00 AM

It will return. Give it 1 week.

PGUY1 · 10/30/2009, 01:28 PM

Is it sitting in your sump? And, if so, how deep is the water level in that compartment? With the valve fully open the water level shouldn't even be up to the neck unless the water level is a bit too high in the sump. Mine was and I raised the skimmer up a little and it gave me a lot more control using the gate valve.

jose7878 · 10/30/2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PGUY1

Is it sitting in your sump? And, if so, how deep is the water level in that compartment? With the valve fully open the water level shouldn't even be up to the neck unless the water level is a bit too high in the sump. Mine was and I raised the skimmer up a little and it gave me a lot more control using the gate valve.

Yes the skimmer is sitting in the sump. It sits 8 inchs in water but the gate vavle and outlet water is out of the water. Thats how it's been since I've owned it . It has worked perfect until now that I took the bio-balls out and clean them.

PGUY1 · 10/30/2009, 06:20 PM

My sump is at that same level and I raised the skimmer up an inch so that I have to use the gate valve more to raise the level in the skimmer. I also dump straight out of the gate valve underwater. IDK... just trying to help. Have you checked the 90 degree air intake for partial salt blockage... I had that cause problems before.

TomToro · 11/01/2009, 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=jjk_reef00;15891019]I think I'm having the same issue. When you say too much is there turbulence in the riser? I get big air bubbles that "throw the crap over" but it is throwing too much.

Not too much turbulence, but too much foam. It creates foam from 1" below the top of the mixing box all the way and into the collection cup. I have to restrict the air intakes to lower it into the first tower.

finfan4 · 11/01/2009, 05:22 PM

Hello all, Iwas just wondering if a sump buddy 40 could handle a 120 gal softy dominated reef. Couple lps, couple monti caps, medium/heavy fish load? I have an opprotunity to get one real cheap, and I have a Mag 9.5 layin around I can use. AETech web site claims good to 250 gal. Looking for some real world users opinions. Thanks, Chuck.

jose7878 · 11/01/2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGUY1

My sump is at that same level and I raised the skimmer up an inch so that I have to use the gate valve more to raise the level in the skimmer. I also dump straight out of the gate valve underwater. IDK... just trying to help. Have you checked the 90 degree air intake for partial salt blockage... I had that cause problems before.

Thanks PGUY1 I just built a stand for the skimmer it stands 3" higher than it did . Will post something if it worked or if it didn't... thanks for suggestion.....

jose7878 · 11/02/2009, 08:57 PM

No PGUY1 it didn't work even with the 3 inch stand I built . Had to throttle back the pump. It's almost closed . So that it produces the light tea color waste.

with me throttling the motor back that much can it affect the pump it's a iwaki 20rlt

salty316 · 11/02/2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by finfan4

Hello all, Iwas just wondering if a sump buddy 40 could handle a 120 gal softy dominated reef. Couple lps, couple monti caps, medium/heavy fish load? I have an opprotunity to get one real cheap, and I have a Mag 9.5 layin around I can use. AETech web site claims good to 250 gal. Looking for some real world users opinions. Thanks, Chuck.

I have the same skimmer on a 110 SPS dominated reef. I am running an Eheim 1262 and it does really well. I have a light bio-load, but if you just want to keep softies, I think you're fine.

PGUY1 · 11/03/2009, 10:29 AM

I'm sorry but I wasn't paying attention. I am not familiar with the Iwaki pumps so I looked up the 20rlt and it said it was rated at 420 gph. On superskimmer.com, the ETSS site they recommend a pump with at least a 700 gph rate for the Reef Devil. That might be the problem.

PGUY1 · 11/03/2009, 10:36 AM

Well I'm wrong again. I went on superskimmer.com and the Iwaki 20rlt is one of the pumps they list for the Reef Devil. Maybe those pumps are rated differently. I guess I'll just be quiet.

jose7878 · 11/03/2009, 07:17 PM

PGUY1 no problem You just trying to help . I'm not made at you .

10/29/2009, 06:35 PM	#530
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	try valving the pump down a bit ,its just making a wetter skimmate then you are used to.which may not be a bad thing(wet skimming) __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

10/29/2009, 07:32 PM	#532
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	well,tea colored would be nice __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

10/29/2009, 08:46 PM	#537
rigleautomotive Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,705	it will return to normal in a couple days.if it doesnt,remove the balls and try to place them in loosely to see if that helps __________________ Dan Rigle President, * Reef Conservation Society TOTM December 2010 Coral Magazine Sept/Oct 2012 Current Tank Info: 180 gal SPS dominated display, 3 X 250 watt Radiums , lumenarc III minis , with VHO actinics, ETS downdraft skimmers, closed loops and 2 Tunze 6105 & 7095 controller,DIY calcium reactors DIY custom built sumps,since 1992

11/01/2009, 05:22 PM	#544
finfan4 Registered Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Davis Junction,Il Posts: 146	Hello all, Iwas just wondering if a sump buddy 40 could handle a 120 gal softy dominated reef. Couple lps, couple monti caps, medium/heavy fish load? I have an opprotunity to get one real cheap, and I have a Mag 9.5 layin around I can use. AETech web site claims good to 250 gal. Looking for some real world users opinions. Thanks, Chuck. __________________ If it wasnt for bad luck... I wouldnt have anything to complain about. Current Tank Info: 120g mixed reef

10/19/2009, 10:35 AM	#527
BrassMonkey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach Posts: 950	im definitely sticking with etss in the future. it pulls X4 times more than my rs100 and i dont have to clean it every other day. this thing pulls amphipods!! see one every time i dump the cup.

10/29/2009, 06:22 PM	#529
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	I'm having a issue with my Reef Devil . Yesterday i cleaned the bio balls inside the chamber . After doing so the collection cup will fill up with clear water. but it's foam that goes into the cup but clear liquid. when i clean I didn't adjust anything . I'm running it with a iwaki 20rlt. Can someone help me don't know what to do now.

10/29/2009, 06:42 PM	#531
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	Okay i did close the vavle a little so pump isn't a full thorotle . now when you wet skim is it suppose to be crystal clear water in the cup.

10/29/2009, 07:52 PM	#534
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	Yes the gate vavle is completely open . and the water is still clear , but it still foaming into cup.

10/29/2009, 08:25 PM	#536
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	I don't understand what is happening because I had the iwaki 20rlt on it for 2 months with vavle wide open and it has performed like it should. I cleaned the bio balls and this happens . I see why people say " IF IT AIN"T BROKE DON'T FIX IT"

10/29/2009, 09:05 PM	#538
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	[QUOTE]it will return to normal in a couple days.if it doesnt,remove the balls and try to place them in loosely to see if that helps [/QUOTE Well the balls are lose in there now. I believe that they were in there tight once I took them out to clean them now there lose getting too much air. Hopefully the sit in there and get back to normal.

10/30/2009, 12:00 AM	#539
jjk_reef00 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,476	It will return. Give it 1 week.

10/30/2009, 01:28 PM	#540
PGUY1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: WILMINGTON, NC Posts: 208	Is it sitting in your sump? And, if so, how deep is the water level in that compartment? With the valve fully open the water level shouldn't even be up to the neck unless the water level is a bit too high in the sump. Mine was and I raised the skimmer up a little and it gave me a lot more control using the gate valve.

10/30/2009, 06:20 PM	#542
PGUY1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: WILMINGTON, NC Posts: 208	My sump is at that same level and I raised the skimmer up an inch so that I have to use the gate valve more to raise the level in the skimmer. I also dump straight out of the gate valve underwater. IDK... just trying to help. Have you checked the 90 degree air intake for partial salt blockage... I had that cause problems before.

11/01/2009, 10:20 AM	#543
TomToro Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Milford Michigan Posts: 251	[QUOTE=jjk_reef00;15891019]I think I'm having the same issue. When you say too much is there turbulence in the riser? I get big air bubbles that "throw the crap over" but it is throwing too much. Not too much turbulence, but too much foam. It creates foam from 1" below the top of the mixing box all the way and into the collection cup. I have to restrict the air intakes to lower it into the first tower.

11/02/2009, 08:57 PM	#546
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	No PGUY1 it didn't work even with the 3 inch stand I built . Had to throttle back the pump. It's almost closed . So that it produces the light tea color waste. with me throttling the motor back that much can it affect the pump it's a iwaki 20rlt

11/03/2009, 10:29 AM	#548
PGUY1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: WILMINGTON, NC Posts: 208	I'm sorry but I wasn't paying attention. I am not familiar with the Iwaki pumps so I looked up the 20rlt and it said it was rated at 420 gph. On superskimmer.com, the ETSS site they recommend a pump with at least a 700 gph rate for the Reef Devil. That might be the problem.

11/03/2009, 10:36 AM	#549
PGUY1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: WILMINGTON, NC Posts: 208	Well I'm wrong again. I went on superskimmer.com and the Iwaki 20rlt is one of the pumps they list for the Reef Devil. Maybe those pumps are rated differently. I guess I'll just be quiet.

11/03/2009, 07:17 PM	#550
jose7878 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hammonton , NJ Posts: 194	PGUY1 no problem You just trying to help . I'm not made at you .