The Reef Central Corner Club Thread - Page 23

Misled · 01/26/2009, 10:04 PM

I've made a few changes. I pulled the scwd because it vibrated the the pipes when switching. I could have reduced the amout of the flow to get rid of it, but that kind of defeats the purpose. I replaced the scwd with a t, but then it doesn't alternate.

I traded the scwd for the modded mj pictured above. last night I ordered another one which with the 2 I'll be at almost 60 times turnover within the tank.

Really, I would think that's enough, but I still want something that alternates so with the mj I ordered a sea swirl for the return.

That's it. The two koralias and the seio that were gonna be used are already sold which covered the cost of the sea swirl, so the wife didn't get too ticked at me spending 34 bucks on the other mj.

johnwin84 · 01/27/2009, 12:05 AM

Equipment list

Skimmer
Bermuda 3c
Main pump
Eheim 1262 to split off with chiller
Chiller
JBJ 1/5
Circulation
2-tunze 6055 with 2 7091 (had 6025 and 6045 then went to 6100 and now 2-6055)
Lighting
Lumenarc mini
Hamation 250 watt hqi ballast
Radium 250
Calcium Reactor
P.M
5 lb co2 bottle
Aqua eura usa Regulator
Ozone
not using currently (Had red sea unit)
Sump
http://www.eshopps.com/catalog4.php (RS-100)
Controller
Neptune System Ac Jr
Auto Top off

Going to keep main SPS

johnwin84 · 01/27/2009, 12:06 AM

johnwin84 · 01/27/2009, 12:07 AM

phish guy · 01/27/2009, 12:24 AM

chrisqueenz, nice aquascaping.

johnwin84- love all the different shots. nice to see the progression.

Pulp Fishin · 01/27/2009, 04:11 AM

JohnWin84, what size is our tank?
I love the pentagon pics!

Tswifty · 01/27/2009, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Misled
They also make a mag mount but 34 bucks seems a bit much.

Hey Jesse, I bet you could get some magnets off Ray, and make your own DIY magnet mount for CHEAP.

Michael · 01/27/2009, 06:37 AM

hi-swift you may be able to help with this as well, heres a few pics of my cabinet, as you guys will see ive now moved the controller and resevoir from the right hand side of my cabinet to make room for my refugium, firstly i have the electrics problem, i will get over that somehow im sure, once they are cleared i should be able to squeeze a standard 10 gallon tank in the right hand side to become my refugium, a 6" sand bed and cheato is my thoughts, question, how the hell am i going to feed it from the sump in the left hand side and back to the tank, even if i tee off the input to the sump from the tank ive got 2 returns, help please

magicians please speak up

Esquare · 01/27/2009, 06:37 AM

Hey TJ, you're everywhere!

John, very nice setup.

Misled, so you did away with the CL altogether?

Esquare · 01/27/2009, 06:41 AM

Michael, it looks like you need a satellite cabinet. Some piece of furniture, a chest or something, that can sit next to the stand and fit in with the rest of your dÃ©cor. This will increase your available space to house components and allow you more flexibility.

Misled · 01/27/2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Esquare

Misled, so you did away with the CL altogether?

It's still in there for now, but yea, once the sea swirl is here I'm gonna take it out.

Esquare · 01/27/2009, 07:53 AM

Is it your opinion that the 54 corner is too small for a CL? I'm asking because I've thought of trying it but am not sure that it is feasible.

Hookup · 01/27/2009, 10:47 AM

Hey Jesse,

I see you used at MJ 900 for the mod. I was told by my LFS that the MJ's are all the same "pump" and only the impeller is changed, so under that logic you could have used an MJ 400?

Can you or anyone else confirm?

Hookup · 01/27/2009, 10:50 AM

I was able to pickup two crocea clams at my LFS i'm very happy with both, who in less than 24hrs attached to the rock work with their foot...

I've also fixed the aquascaping, and IMO it's better than ever!

Photos of all incoming when I get home.

Michael · 01/27/2009, 10:57 AM

any suggestions on plumbing my seperate future fudge

joeychitwood · 01/27/2009, 11:14 AM

I just ordered a Tunze Turbelle Stream 6065 to replace the two 6025 pumps in my 54 gallon tank. I modified the 6025 pumps for more output by cutting away some of the internal tunnel around the impeller, and the increase in flow was very noticeable. Has anyone modified a Tunze 6065 to increase flow beyond the factory-claimed 1700 gph?

Misled · 01/27/2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hookup
Hey Jesse,

I see you used at MJ 900 for the mod. I was told by my LFS that the MJ's are all the same "pump" and only the impeller is changed, so under that logic you could have used an MJ 400?

Can you or anyone else confirm?

That's partially true.

Maxi-Jet 400 1300 GPH
Maxi-Jet 600 1400 GPH
Maxi-Jet 900 1600 GPH
Maxi-Jet 1200 1600 GPH
Maxi-Jet 1200 2100 GPH (Large Propeller)

johnwin84 · 01/27/2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pulp Fishin
JohnWin84, what size is our tank?
I love the pentagon pics!

It a 65 corner pentagon so 30 *30 *24

Sk8r · 01/27/2009, 11:49 AM

One of the best things I ever did for my tank, re flow and water management, was to split the return line and get 2 Sea Swirls and mount them facing each other on the straight sides of my 54g bow. The water movement gets everywhere, and the fish love the chaotic flow. Since they swing, and get out of time with each other and phase back in, they mean no more fish hanging in one spot and no place for detritus to settle permanently.

Misled · 01/27/2009, 12:03 PM

I plan on putting the sea swirl on the overflow. I have a pic in my mind how it will look, but we know how that goes. The mj's will be on the side walls facing each other.

Pulp Fishin · 01/27/2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnwin84
It a 65 corner pentagon so 30 *30 *24

My pentagon is very similar but not sure of the dimentions, I should check at home because I think mine was 57/60 or 65gal not sure.

johnwin84 · 01/27/2009, 12:16 PM

Some Sump pictures for you guys
that the left side where i have my tunze stuff

MIddle where the skimmer is and the plastic bottle is my top off

and back where i have my calcium reactor

also i dont have picture but on the right side i have a 5lb co2
and on top of the skimmer and such i how a Dj power switch..i can turn off different things.

Also laying on the ground outside is my ac jr.

Michael · 01/27/2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joeychitwood
Has anyone modified a Tunze 6065 to increase flow beyond the factory-claimed 1700 gph?

well i havent, but id be interested to hear about it like you

Hookup · 01/27/2009, 12:30 PM

I like the sea-swirls but didn't want to use them because my return-flow from my sump is around 400gph, which I can increase to 1700gph, but do not want to.

So I considered a closed-loop, and then my wife stopp'ed beating the living crap out of me with pots and pans, so I agreed I wouldn't tear the walls apart for a closed loop... and the dream of sea-swirls died.

Tswifty · 01/27/2009, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Esquare
Hey TJ, you're everywhere!

Haha... Yeah I get around.

Quote:

Originally posted by Esquare
Michael, it looks like you need a satellite cabinet. Some piece of furniture, a chest or something, that can sit next to the stand and fit in with the rest of your dÃ©cor. This will increase your available space to house components and allow you more flexibility.

+1

That would be an ideal fix.

In order to get a separated refugium to work, you would need to have it elevated higher than the sump so you can gravity feed it back into the sump. I think in order to accomplish that, you would need to drill a hole to feed plumbing through the center section of your stand, and I'm not sure what that would do to the integrity of the stand. A small PVC sized hole probably wouldn't be that bad though. Here's an example that I used under my 55g... obviously you're under a bit of space constraint, but should give you the basic idea.

You would need to get your electric separated somehow though. The last thing you want is is falling into the fuge. Perhaps if you could build a little stand to raise the fuge in the stand, you could place it underneath.

As far as the sand bed in the fuge. I would skip it all together. In a refugium that small I doubt you'll get any real benefit from it, or enough to notice an impact on your tank. I would just pack it with macro, maybe some LR rubble as well.

Nice thread you've guys got going.

01/26/2009, 10:04 PM	#551
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	I've made a few changes. I pulled the scwd because it vibrated the the pipes when switching. I could have reduced the amout of the flow to get rid of it, but that kind of defeats the purpose. I replaced the scwd with a t, but then it doesn't alternate. I traded the scwd for the modded mj pictured above. last night I ordered another one which with the 2 I'll be at almost 60 times turnover within the tank. Really, I would think that's enough, but I still want something that alternates so with the mj I ordered a sea swirl for the return. That's it. The two koralias and the seio that were gonna be used are already sold which covered the cost of the sea swirl, so the wife didn't get too ticked at me spending 34 bucks on the other mj. __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

01/27/2009, 12:05 AM	#552
johnwin84 IEMAS Seceretary Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,231	Equipment list Skimmer Bermuda 3c Main pump Eheim 1262 to split off with chiller Chiller JBJ 1/5 Circulation 2-tunze 6055 with 2 7091 (had 6025 and 6045 then went to 6100 and now 2-6055) Lighting Lumenarc mini Hamation 250 watt hqi ballast Radium 250 Calcium Reactor P.M 5 lb co2 bottle Aqua eura usa Regulator Ozone not using currently (Had red sea unit) Sump http://www.eshopps.com/catalog4.php (RS-100) Controller Neptune System Ac Jr Auto Top off Going to keep main SPS __________________ RIP Bruce Webster.........You will be missed my friend!!! He's the type of guy that would drive 100 miles to give you the shirt off his back" Current Tank Info: 65 gallon corner tank, 1 Ecotech Radion, Mp10 es, tunze 6055,bm dosing pump

01/27/2009, 12:06 AM	#553
johnwin84 IEMAS Seceretary Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,231	__________________ RIP Bruce Webster.........You will be missed my friend!!! He's the type of guy that would drive 100 miles to give you the shirt off his back" Current Tank Info: 65 gallon corner tank, 1 Ecotech Radion, Mp10 es, tunze 6055,bm dosing pump

01/27/2009, 12:07 AM	#554
johnwin84 IEMAS Seceretary Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,231	__________________ RIP Bruce Webster.........You will be missed my friend!!! He's the type of guy that would drive 100 miles to give you the shirt off his back" Current Tank Info: 65 gallon corner tank, 1 Ecotech Radion, Mp10 es, tunze 6055,bm dosing pump

01/27/2009, 12:24 AM	#555
phish guy Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South NJ Posts: 1,003	chrisqueenz, nice aquascaping. johnwin84- love all the different shots. nice to see the progression. __________________ Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people. Current Tank Info: 150 Gallon Reef, Reeftech LEDs ( on their way out for reefbreeder Photons), Reef Octoput NWB250, Custom made Sump/Refufium, Mp40wES, Koralia's. SPS, LPS, Zoas/Palys

01/27/2009, 04:11 AM	#556
Pulp Fishin Were all mad here. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Ontario Canada Posts: 608	JohnWin84, what size is our tank? I love the pentagon pics! __________________ Reef Central Corner Club Aquarium Dumpster Diver Extraordinaire Money talks, mine says "Good-Bye" Current Tank Info: RIP:60g Pentagon Reef 100lbs LR 20g Sump Deltec Mce 600 Mag 750 250W Metal Halide & 2x39W T5's Phosban ReactorX2 5gal refugium 36xTO RIP:135G FOWLER /Agressive

01/27/2009, 06:37 AM	#558
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	if you can pull a rabbit out of the hat then post here hi-swift you may be able to help with this as well, heres a few pics of my cabinet, as you guys will see ive now moved the controller and resevoir from the right hand side of my cabinet to make room for my refugium, firstly i have the electrics problem, i will get over that somehow im sure, once they are cleared i should be able to squeeze a standard 10 gallon tank in the right hand side to become my refugium, a 6" sand bed and cheato is my thoughts, question, how the hell am i going to feed it from the sump in the left hand side and back to the tank, even if i tee off the input to the sump from the tank ive got 2 returns, help please magicians please speak up __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/27/2009, 06:37 AM	#559
Esquare Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lorain, Ohio Posts: 1,954	Hey TJ, you're everywhere! John, very nice setup. Misled, so you did away with the CL altogether? __________________ Eddie Current Tank Info: 40 Breeder with Dwarf Lionfish

01/27/2009, 06:41 AM	#560
Esquare Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lorain, Ohio Posts: 1,954	Michael, it looks like you need a satellite cabinet. Some piece of furniture, a chest or something, that can sit next to the stand and fit in with the rest of your dÃ©cor. This will increase your available space to house components and allow you more flexibility. __________________ Eddie Current Tank Info: 40 Breeder with Dwarf Lionfish

01/27/2009, 07:53 AM	#562
Esquare Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lorain, Ohio Posts: 1,954	Is it your opinion that the 54 corner is too small for a CL? I'm asking because I've thought of trying it but am not sure that it is feasible. __________________ Eddie Current Tank Info: 40 Breeder with Dwarf Lionfish

01/27/2009, 10:47 AM	#563
Hookup Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,281	Hey Jesse, I see you used at MJ 900 for the mod. I was told by my LFS that the MJ's are all the same "pump" and only the impeller is changed, so under that logic you could have used an MJ 400? Can you or anyone else confirm? __________________ Spellking is an art form to which I have no brush. I'm not sure FOWLRs actually exist, I think they're like unicorns or platonic girlfriends. A FOWLR is just a reef tank that doesn't yet hold any coral. Current Tank Info: 180g display, 150gallon sump in-wall 4-side viewable sps dominated tank, ATI Powermodule, MRC MR-4 skimmer, GHL controller, Baling Method, Ultralith Reactor, Carbon & Phosphate Reactors, and general time consuming money pit that I live for.

01/27/2009, 10:50 AM	#564
Hookup Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,281	I was able to pickup two crocea clams at my LFS i'm very happy with both, who in less than 24hrs attached to the rock work with their foot... I've also fixed the aquascaping, and IMO it's better than ever! Photos of all incoming when I get home. __________________ Spellking is an art form to which I have no brush. I'm not sure FOWLRs actually exist, I think they're like unicorns or platonic girlfriends. A FOWLR is just a reef tank that doesn't yet hold any coral. Current Tank Info: 180g display, 150gallon sump in-wall 4-side viewable sps dominated tank, ATI Powermodule, MRC MR-4 skimmer, GHL controller, Baling Method, Ultralith Reactor, Carbon & Phosphate Reactors, and general time consuming money pit that I live for.

01/27/2009, 10:57 AM	#565
Michael NTTH Rookie Help Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gloucester, England,UK Posts: 7,808 Blog Entries: 6	any suggestions on plumbing my seperate future fudge __________________ Don't be afraid to ask questions, we in the new to the hobby are here to help you [For My Tank Spec,Photo Album,Articles and website, click on my name] MY Very Kindest and Warmest Regards , MIKE Current Tank Info: I have a 92 gal Corner Tank, and way too many pieces of equipment to list really, (proud member of the reef central corner club)

01/27/2009, 11:14 AM	#566
joeychitwood Schrödinger's Mod Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 3,488	I just ordered a Tunze Turbelle Stream 6065 to replace the two 6025 pumps in my 54 gallon tank. I modified the 6025 pumps for more output by cutting away some of the internal tunnel around the impeller, and the increase in flow was very noticeable. Has anyone modified a Tunze 6065 to increase flow beyond the factory-claimed 1700 gph?

01/27/2009, 11:49 AM	#569
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	One of the best things I ever did for my tank, re flow and water management, was to split the return line and get 2 Sea Swirls and mount them facing each other on the straight sides of my 54g bow. The water movement gets everywhere, and the fish love the chaotic flow. Since they swing, and get out of time with each other and phase back in, they mean no more fish hanging in one spot and no place for detritus to settle permanently. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

01/27/2009, 12:03 PM	#570
Misled RC Mod Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 11,440 Blog Entries: 11	I plan on putting the sea swirl on the overflow. I have a pic in my mind how it will look, but we know how that goes. The mj's will be on the side walls facing each other. __________________ Jesse I'm not saying I'm Batman. I'm just saying nobody has ever seen me and Batman in a room together.

01/27/2009, 12:16 PM	#572
johnwin84 IEMAS Seceretary Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 1,231	Some Sump pictures for you guys that the left side where i have my tunze stuff MIddle where the skimmer is and the plastic bottle is my top off and back where i have my calcium reactor also i dont have picture but on the right side i have a 5lb co2 and on top of the skimmer and such i how a Dj power switch..i can turn off different things. Also laying on the ground outside is my ac jr. __________________ RIP Bruce Webster.........You will be missed my friend!!! He's the type of guy that would drive 100 miles to give you the shirt off his back" Current Tank Info: 65 gallon corner tank, 1 Ecotech Radion, Mp10 es, tunze 6055,bm dosing pump

01/27/2009, 12:30 PM	#574
Hookup Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,281	I like the sea-swirls but didn't want to use them because my return-flow from my sump is around 400gph, which I can increase to 1700gph, but do not want to. So I considered a closed-loop, and then my wife stopp'ed beating the living crap out of me with pots and pans, so I agreed I wouldn't tear the walls apart for a closed loop... and the dream of sea-swirls died. __________________ Spellking is an art form to which I have no brush. I'm not sure FOWLRs actually exist, I think they're like unicorns or platonic girlfriends. A FOWLR is just a reef tank that doesn't yet hold any coral. Current Tank Info: 180g display, 150gallon sump in-wall 4-side viewable sps dominated tank, ATI Powermodule, MRC MR-4 skimmer, GHL controller, Baling Method, Ultralith Reactor, Carbon & Phosphate Reactors, and general time consuming money pit that I live for.