Pictures of Bomber's barebottom SPS tank and related equipment - Page 23

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 05:43 PM

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL

edit - not you Chris, I was talking to ts.

joefish · 07/29/2005, 05:45 PM

He he ! Doug is getting so old his spikes are turning white .

Unfortunately I know how he feels .

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 05:46 PM

Joe are you talking about the urchin?

LOL

joefish · 07/29/2005, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bomber

Somehow people got the idea that the dirty system - cleans - the clean system.

Shhhh , I like them to think that . It makes my tank stand out better .

If they would only give simple a try . Then they would see you don't need all those gadgets and extra tanks of green stuff .

Then again they are saving money on calcium .

joefish · 07/29/2005, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bomber
Joe are you talking about the urchin? LOL

I hope the other dougs hair isn't spiked ?

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 05:59 PM

If we're real nice, I bet Doug (the human one) will dig up a old picture and post it and yes his hair is spiked in that picture. LOL

tankslave · 07/29/2005, 06:28 PM

Joe,
Where on earth did you get a 1" to 3/4" tee? Do i have that right? one inch going splitting into two 3/4" tee? I've never seen that ever!

joefish · 07/29/2005, 06:36 PM

I have one of those ?

You need to help me out, where did you see it ?

tankslave · 07/29/2005, 06:38 PM

HHAHA, you don't even remember....

joefish · 07/29/2005, 06:38 PM

Never mind , I found where .

I believe Lowes for that one . every once and a while you get lucky with a find there.

boxfishpooalot · 07/29/2005, 06:41 PM

I want to do that no sand bed, but really im scared of any bad resuslts happening.Im not sure if I could take the risk on my tank now, somthing bad may happen.

I may just set up 2 experimental tanks, 1 with no sand and the other with sand. Stick a damsel in both tanks, and test the water quality over 2-3 months time.Both would have a skimmer.

What about all the worms and stuff in the sand. I guess they are there just to survive and eat detris? And if I syphon All that sand out, man we got a bunch of dead worms.

Does aragonite sand(surgar fine or any kind) trap detris in its pores like a sponge? Then just wait for the bacteria to decompose it, thus causing the main problem of a tank.(not being exported by a skimmer)

Man I just dont want to risk it without knowing the information first.

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 06:43 PM

Breathe between sentences box! LOL

Now try that again slowly. One question at a time.

reefrubble · 07/29/2005, 06:44 PM

Joe,how much L/R do you have in your tank? I can't see much rock for the coral.

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 06:46 PM

Somewhere there's a thread about taking the old tank with the sand bed down, cooking the rocks, starboard, etc etc you need to read all that first.

I had cooked all the rocks ahead of time and had them ready, so the day I took the tank apart, removed the sand bed, I put it all back in in one day.

boxfishpooalot · 07/29/2005, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bomber
Breathe between sentences box! LOL

Now try that again slowly. One question at a time.

Sorry... I need to know the proper steps to take to safely remove the sand.

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 06:49 PM

I'm looking for those threads for you.

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 06:52 PM

ok, here they are. Weatherman had them stored.

Go to the bottom of the first page of each thread, there's a "show printable version" button. Print them out, read them, that should cover all the bases.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=223301

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...threadid=485572

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...threadid=157682

tankslave · 07/29/2005, 06:53 PM

Lowe's huh. Noticed they're starting to get an edge over home depot. Home depot seems to be run more and more by homies.

Quote:

Originally posted by boxfishpooalot
I want to do that no sand bed, but really im scared of any bad resuslts happening.Im not sure if I could take the risk on my tank now, somthing bad may happen.

Just siphon out the sand a little at a time...

Quote:

I may just set up 2 experimental tanks, 1 with no sand and the other with sand. Stick a damsel in both tanks, and test the water quality over 2-3 months time.Both would have a skimmer.

that will definitely take a while, but whatever it takes to convince yourself...
Both damsels will be fine and happy, but the water quailty that your sps need is beyond the resolution of your test kits, I guarantee that.

Quote:

What about all the worms and stuff in the sand. I guess they are there just to survive and eat detris? And if I syphon All that sand out, man we got a bunch of dead worms.

and dead sand...

Quote:

Does aragonite sand(surgar fine or any kind) trap detris in its pores like a sponge? Then just wait for the bacteria to decompose it, thus causing the main problem of a tank.(not being exported by a skimmer)

yup, that's how it goes. Any DSB is going to trap detritus. So where is it going to go?....

Quote:

Man I just dont want to risk it without knowing the information first.

Just try sucking out some of your sand each week and see what kinda crap you find in there. You'll wish you did it a long time ago.

Bomber · 07/29/2005, 06:57 PM

Steve, SPC, tried removing his a little at a time and killed off some of his tank.

I would feel better removing everything I wanted to keep to tubs of tank water, removing the sand bed all at one time, dunk and swish the rocks real good if you don't have time to cook them, and put it all back in one day.
Redo the pumps, plumbing, skimmer, etc if you need to do that too.

Matthew A. · 07/29/2005, 10:12 PM

DSB bad huh? That would explain not only the excess organics I keep finding in my sump but also why Aptasia has become so rampant in it as well. Looks like the train runs to Berlin once more.

boxfishpooalot · 07/29/2005, 10:21 PM

I think the biggest part would be convincing my girlfriend to enjoy no sand bed, and explain to her how much better the water would be.

melev · 07/29/2005, 10:23 PM

Hey Bomber, you have a PM awaiting you.

joefish · 07/29/2005, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tankslave

Just siphon out the sand a little at a time...

Noooooooooo ! that would just release what it's been hidding for all this time .

On my 120 I removed all live stock , yanked the DSB and a 25% water change in one day by myself . Not one loss of life in the tank .

IMO this is the best way to go .

PS , grab some nose plugs for the sand removel .

joefish · 07/29/2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boxfishpooalot
I think the biggest part would be convincing my girlfriend to enjoy no sand bed, and explain to her how much better the water would be.

With thriving corals no one will be looking for sand . When corals are small and brown sand is very important , after all you need something to see .

joefish · 07/29/2005, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matthew A.
DSB bad huh? That would explain not only the excess organics I keep finding in my sump but also why Aptasia has become so rampant in it as well. Looks like the train runs to Berlin once more.

Aiptaisia can run rampet anywhere , sand or not .

This new look BB is different from the berlin style . IMO this works much better .

07/29/2005, 06:28 PM	#557
tankslave Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 1,893	Joe, Where on earth did you get a 1" to 3/4" tee? Do i have that right? one inch going splitting into two 3/4" tee? I've never seen that ever! __________________ Whoever said fishkeeping will lower your blood pressure never had a reef aquarium... "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought." -Lord Peter Wimsey, "Gaudy Night" Current Tank Info: Tankless Reefer

07/29/2005, 06:38 PM	#559
tankslave Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Jose Posts: 1,893	HHAHA, you don't even remember.... __________________ Whoever said fishkeeping will lower your blood pressure never had a reef aquarium... "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought." -Lord Peter Wimsey, "Gaudy Night" Current Tank Info: Tankless Reefer

07/29/2005, 06:41 PM	#561
boxfishpooalot Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada, Grande Praire, Ab Posts: 5,824	I want to do that no sand bed, but really im scared of any bad resuslts happening.Im not sure if I could take the risk on my tank now, somthing bad may happen. I may just set up 2 experimental tanks, 1 with no sand and the other with sand. Stick a damsel in both tanks, and test the water quality over 2-3 months time.Both would have a skimmer. What about all the worms and stuff in the sand. I guess they are there just to survive and eat detris? And if I syphon All that sand out, man we got a bunch of dead worms. Does aragonite sand(surgar fine or any kind) trap detris in its pores like a sponge? Then just wait for the bacteria to decompose it, thus causing the main problem of a tank.(not being exported by a skimmer) Man I just dont want to risk it without knowing the information first. __________________ Its a good idea to have a refrence sample for alk test kits. 1.1350 grams of baking soda in 1gallon of distilled water=10dkh. Check your alkalinity test kit! Algae is Mother Natures phosphate remover Current Tank Info: 220 galon mixed reef.

07/29/2005, 06:44 PM	#563
reefrubble Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Fort Myers , Fl. Posts: 5,718	Joe,how much L/R do you have in your tank? I can't see much rock for the coral. __________________ Ted Proud member of SHARK (Spring Hill Area Reef Keepers ) Proud member of TBRC (Tampa Bay Reef Club ) Save the reefs , Grow your own Current Tank Info: Marineland 300 DD Tank Custom metal stand , and canopy DIY LED lighting I-Tech Super Beast skimmer . I do not have a tank at this time . I sold the 300 Gal. system

07/29/2005, 10:21 PM	#571
boxfishpooalot Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada, Grande Praire, Ab Posts: 5,824	I think the biggest part would be convincing my girlfriend to enjoy no sand bed, and explain to her how much better the water would be. __________________ Its a good idea to have a refrence sample for alk test kits. 1.1350 grams of baking soda in 1gallon of distilled water=10dkh. Check your alkalinity test kit! Algae is Mother Natures phosphate remover Current Tank Info: 220 galon mixed reef.

07/29/2005, 05:43 PM	#551
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL edit - not you Chris, I was talking to ts.

07/29/2005, 05:45 PM	#552
joefish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,757	He he ! Doug is getting so old his spikes are turning white . Unfortunately I know how he feels .

07/29/2005, 05:46 PM	#553
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Joe are you talking about the urchin? LOL

07/29/2005, 05:59 PM	#556
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	If we're real nice, I bet Doug (the human one) will dig up a old picture and post it and yes his hair is spiked in that picture. LOL

07/29/2005, 06:36 PM	#558
joefish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,757	I have one of those ? You need to help me out, where did you see it ?

07/29/2005, 06:38 PM	#560
joefish Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island Posts: 4,757	Never mind , I found where . I believe Lowes for that one . every once and a while you get lucky with a find there.

07/29/2005, 06:43 PM	#562
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Breathe between sentences box! LOL Now try that again slowly. One question at a time.

07/29/2005, 06:46 PM	#564
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Somewhere there's a thread about taking the old tank with the sand bed down, cooking the rocks, starboard, etc etc you need to read all that first. I had cooked all the rocks ahead of time and had them ready, so the day I took the tank apart, removed the sand bed, I put it all back in in one day.

07/29/2005, 06:49 PM	#566
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	I'm looking for those threads for you.

07/29/2005, 06:52 PM	#567
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	ok, here they are. Weatherman had them stored. Go to the bottom of the first page of each thread, there's a "show printable version" button. Print them out, read them, that should cover all the bases. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...hreadid=223301 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...threadid=485572 http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...threadid=157682

07/29/2005, 06:57 PM	#569
Bomber 10 & Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 10,550	Steve, SPC, tried removing his a little at a time and killed off some of his tank. I would feel better removing everything I wanted to keep to tubs of tank water, removing the sand bed all at one time, dunk and swish the rocks real good if you don't have time to cook them, and put it all back in one day. Redo the pumps, plumbing, skimmer, etc if you need to do that too.

07/29/2005, 10:12 PM	#570
Matthew A. Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego CA. USA Posts: 51	DSB bad huh? That would explain not only the excess organics I keep finding in my sump but also why Aptasia has become so rampant in it as well. Looks like the train runs to Berlin once more.

07/29/2005, 10:23 PM	#572
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Hey Bomber, you have a PM awaiting you.