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Unread 04/04/2013, 11:16 AM   #5826
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There are some fish i have thought of, that I know are reef safe. I have one trible blenny, two perc clowns. I want to add one or two more fish. These are the ones I have been thinking about. Blue tang, Mandarinfish, coral Beauty,and Golbie. Can more than one Blenny live together if It's a different type and color?


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There are some fish i have thought of, that I know are reef safe. I have one trible blenny, two perc clowns. I want to add one or two more fish. These are the ones I have been thinking about. Blue tang, Mandarinfish, coral Beauty,and Golbie. Can more than one Blenny live together if It's a different type and color?
When asking questions on this thread, please provide tank size and other particulars. Even if previously provided, I have done a lot of these and will not remember it. Two blennies cannot live together. Coral beauties are not reef safe. The other ones depend on tank size, but a Hepatus tang requires an 8 foot tank.


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Unread 04/04/2013, 02:47 PM   #5828
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Fish selection for 240 gallon

Hey Steve,

I heard you were the best at knowing which fish are best suited for aquariums, so I would love some insight on my upcoming selections. Tank is running and will be done cycling in a few weeks. It's a drilled 240 gallon (72 long, 30 wide, 25 high). Here is the list. It's also a FOWLR tank with approximately 180 pounds of live rock and 160 pounds of crushed coral.

2 ocellaris clownfish
2 diamond gobies (can I have 2 in same tank?)
2 bangaii cardinals
1 queen angelfish
1 blue hippo tang
1 naso tang
1 yellow tang
1 flame angel (want a coral beauty as well but not sure if I can have 2 dwarf's in same tank)
1 annularis angel
5 green chromis
1 six line wrasse
1 lawnmower blenny

Thanks for your time!

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and a Harlequin tusk and sailfin tang. Thanks!


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Hey Steve,

I heard you were the best at knowing which fish are best suited for aquariums, so I would love some insight on my upcoming selections. Tank is running and will be done cycling in a few weeks. It's a drilled 240 gallon (72 long, 30 wide, 25 high). Here is the list. It's also a FOWLR tank with approximately 180 pounds of live rock and 160 pounds of crushed coral.

2 ocellaris clownfish
2 diamond gobies (can I have 2 in same tank?) In a six foot tank, probably not long term
2 bangaii cardinals be sure they are tank raised, male plus female
1 queen angelfish one of my absolute favorite fish; ok in a six foot tank, better in a longer tank.
1 blue hippo tang again, does better in a longer tank but a 12-15 inch fish makes a six foot tank look small. Also, when mature, fairly aggressive
1 naso tang depends which one, but really does better in an 8 foot tank
1 yellow tang
1 flame angel (want a coral beauty as well but not sure if I can have 2 dwarf's in same tank) with reasonable aquascaping, 2 is no problem. Three is possible once the tank is mature but I would supplement feeding with all these grazers with Nori, ideally on two side of the aquarium
1 annularis angel with a queen, I would definitely not add a second large angel
5 green chromis recently coming in less than healthy and will reduce their number to one or at most two over time
1 six line wrasse limits choices going forward, also is a prolific jumper
1 lawnmower blenny marginal with the number of algae eaters

Thanks for your time!

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and a Harlequin tusk and sailfin tang. Thanks!
No more tangs, especially large ones. Your tank is going to look small anyway since you have very long fish that are active swimmers. Harlequin tusk eat small fish, but should be fine.


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Thanks man! Appreciate it! Will definitely stick with the queen angelfish only, and will substitute the naso tang with the sailfin (the wife's favorite). Thanks!

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Thanks man! Appreciate it! Will definitely stick with the queen angelfish only, and will substitute the naso tang with the sailfin (the wife's favorite). Thanks!

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Good decision. The Queen angel is one of the most beautiful fish in the ocean but it likes it's own space. Red Sea Sailfins to my eye are better looking with the same behavioral profile.


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I hope I got this right and all the information you need. I have a forty gallon breeder aquarium. My perimiters are in "normal" range. I have no idea how many pounds of live rock I have but, it fills half the aquarium. I have some soft coral: polyps, mushrooms, buttons, xenia, lettuce coral. One feather duster, 2 colwns percila. 1 trible blenny. I do not have a sump yet but attend to get one eventually. My aquariums been thriving and running for a year. I want to add one or two fish, but not sure what yet. My choices that are left are goby, mandarinfish, maybe a yellow tail blue damselfish? Thank you for you help.


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I hope I got this right and all the information you need. I have a forty gallon breeder aquarium. My perimiters are in "normal" range. I have no idea how many pounds of live rock I have but, it fills half the aquarium. I have some soft coral: polyps, mushrooms, buttons, xenia, lettuce coral. One feather duster, 2 colwns percila. 1 trible blenny. I do not have a sump yet but attend to get one eventually. My aquariums been thriving and running for a year. I want to add one or two fish, but not sure what yet. My choices that are left are goby, mandarinfish, maybe a yellow tail blue damselfish? Thank you for you help.
A goby is no problem, a mandarin will starve to death unless you add a producing refugium, or go to rather exceptional efforts to maintain it, a blue damselfish is aggressive and will limit choices going forward.


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The tank: 30 gallon rimless with 20 pounds of live sand and 30 pounds of live rock.

Flasher Wrasse or White Banded Possum Wrasse
Purple Firefish
yasha goby + pistol shrimp.

I am not sure which order to add those fish in. I am also having isses finding either wrasse locally so I may have to switch it out but I want to know if it will be okay before I really start searching for one.

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The tank: 30 gallon rimless with 20 pounds of live sand and 30 pounds of live rock.

Flasher Wrasse or White Banded Possum Wrasse possum wrasse is ideal and excellent, a flasher wrasse really needs a larger tank (50g) and is a prolific jumper which in a small tank is difficult to properly control; egg crate does not work. Flasher wrasses in small tanks can also intimidate firefish
Purple Firefish ideally, should be first and is a wonderful fish
yasha goby + pistol shrimp. you can have two pistol shrimp if you choose

I am not sure which order to add those fish in. I am also having isses finding either wrasse locally so I may have to switch it out but I want to know if it will be okay before I really start searching for one.

the possum wrasse is so excellent that it is worth going the extra mile to acquire

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Unread 04/05/2013, 10:09 AM   #5838
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Thank you snorvich. Next week I will get a purple firefish for my QT tank and start asking around to see if any local store can get a possum wrasse.


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Thank you snorvich. Next week I will get a purple firefish for my QT tank and start asking around to see if any local store can get a possum wrasse.
There are three species of possum wrasse, all of which are behaviorally the same. Either one would be terrific.


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Ok, I would like to try that two !

I have a 60 gallons rimless tank (24X24X24) with 52 pounds of live rocks and 1" of sand,
no sump or refugium and a Aquamaxx HOB skimmer. I'm looking for small fishes that will make my tank look bigger than it actually is (like the neon Tetras in Amano's tank) and I want to make a reef of that tank.

My plan:
2 True Percula Clownfish
1 Banngai Cardinal
1 Peppermint shrimp
1 Fire shrimp
...
? group of small fish that would hang out a little bit together (I need your help on that one)

Thank you

P.S. I hope my message is clear. I speak French so I might make some mistake when writting in English...


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Ok, I would like to try that two !

I have a 60 gallons rimless tank (24X24X24) with 52 pounds of live rocks and 1" of sand,
no sump or refugium and a Aquamaxx HOB skimmer. I'm looking for small fishes that will make my tank look bigger than it actually is (like the neon Tetras in Amano's tank) and I want to make a reef of that tank.

My plan:
2 True Percula Clownfish
1 Banngai Cardinal tank raised preferred
1 Peppermint shrimp
1 Fire shrimp
...
? group of small fish that would hang out a little bit together (I need your help on that one) the only ones like that are red spotted cardinals but they are small enough the cardinal fish would eat them and they are a difficult fish for a new to the hobby. Also, they are difficult shippers so there would be significant mortality in a group brought in. I would look at gobies, flasher wrasses, and possum wrasses instead and feel free to check back for behavioral compatibility.

Thank you

P.S. I hope my message is clear. I speak French so I might make some mistake when writting in English...
your English is much better than my French


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Unread 04/05/2013, 12:20 PM   #5842
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Questions on compatibility

Tank Parameters:
4ft, 75 gallon tank, overflow box + 20 gallon refugium/sump
ASM mini G protein skimmer
Green Element EVO Quad 48" LED (64x3W)
Temp: 80F
pH: 8.2
Nitrates, Nitrates, Ammonia and Phosphate all undetectable
Apart from two skunk cleaner shrimp, CUC, green bubble-tip anem & various soft corals, the tank is currently fallow due to an ich attach.

Current fish in QT:
Yellow watchman goby
Six-line wrasse
1 firefish and 1 purple firefish (appear to have paired up)

Once these are back in the main display, I will keep the QT up and running for new arrivals. I would like to add the following:

1 or 2 Banggai cardinals (if I can find a pair)
Neon blue goby
Pistol shrimp to pair with the watchman goby
Orchid dottyback (appears to be the least aggresive dottyback based on forum research).

All of the above will be bought from tank-bred sources.

I think the tank is large enough to not overload the biomass, but I'd love your opinion on general compatibility. Although the 6-line wrasse is always active but peaceful, I hear it may become more aggressive over time. Would the cardinals suffer due to their more peaceful nature?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Ok, I would like to try that two !

I have a 60 gallons rimless tank (24X24X24) with 52 pounds of live rocks and 1" of sand,
no sump or refugium and a Aquamaxx HOB skimmer. I'm looking for small fishes that will make my tank look bigger than it actually is (like
the neon Tetras in Amano's tank) and I want to make a reef of that tank.

My plan:
2 True Percula Clownfish
1 Banngai Cardinal tank raised preferred
1 Peppermint shrimp
1 Fire shrimp
...
? group of small fish that would hang out a little bit together (I need your help on that one) the only ones like that are red spotted cardinals but they are small enough the cardinal fish would eat them and they are a difficult fish for a new to the hobby. Also, they are difficult shippers so there would be significant mortality in a group brought in. I would look at gobies, flasher wrasses, and possum wrasses instead and feel free to check back for behavioral compatibility.

Thank you

P.S. I hope my message is clear. I speak French so I might make some mistake when writting in English...





I saw the Acares Midget Chromis on Liveaquaria. Do you think that a small group of three would be appropriate or are they as aggressive as the blue/green Chromis ?

Thank you


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Tank Parameters:
4ft, 75 gallon tank, overflow box + 20 gallon refugium/sump
ASM mini G protein skimmer
Green Element EVO Quad 48" LED (64x3W)
Temp: 80F
pH: 8.2
Nitrates, Nitrates, Ammonia and Phosphate all undetectable
Apart from two skunk cleaner shrimp, CUC, green bubble-tip anem & various soft corals, the tank is currently fallow due to an ich attach.

Current fish in QT:
Yellow watchman goby
Six-line wrasse
1 firefish and 1 purple firefish (appear to have paired up) highly doubtful, you will not know for a few months until one disappears

Once these are back in the main display, I will keep the QT up and running for new arrivals. I would like to add the following:

1 or 2 Banggai cardinals (if I can find a pair) tank bred is essential for these
Neon blue goby
Pistol shrimp to pair with the watchman goby two shrimp also work but only one goby
Orchid dottyback (appears to be the least aggresive dottyback based on forum research). correct, but only marginally ok if you do flasher wrasses

All of the above will be bought from tank-bred sources.

I think the tank is large enough to not overload the biomass, but I'd love your opinion on general compatibility. Although the 6-line wrasse is always active but peaceful, I hear it may become more aggressive over time. Would the cardinals suffer due to their more peaceful nature?

the most likely to suffer are the firefish and the P. fridmani. Cardinal fish do not occupy the same ecological niche as six line wrasses and should be ignored.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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Ok, I would like to try that two !

I have a 60 gallons rimless tank (24X24X24) with 52 pounds of live rocks and 1" of sand,
no sump or refugium and a Aquamaxx HOB skimmer. I'm looking for small fishes that will make my tank look bigger than it actually is (like
the neon Tetras in Amano's tank) and I want to make a reef of that tank.

My plan:
2 True Percula Clownfish
1 Banngai Cardinal tank raised preferred
1 Peppermint shrimp
1 Fire shrimp
...
? group of small fish that would hang out a little bit together (I need your help on that one) the only ones like that are red spotted cardinals but they are small enough the cardinal fish would eat them and they are a difficult fish for a new to the hobby. Also, they are difficult shippers so there would be significant mortality in a group brought in. I would look at gobies, flasher wrasses, and possum wrasses instead and feel free to check back for behavioral compatibility.

Thank you

P.S. I hope my message is clear. I speak French so I might make some mistake when writting in English...





I saw the Acares Midget Chromis on Liveaquaria. Do you think that a small group of three would be appropriate or are they as aggressive as the blue/green Chromis ? similar behaviorally but not as susceptible to uronema but other than themselves will not interact with any fish you have planned.

Thank you



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hey i'm back (hopefully ur not sick of me asking so many questions). So i think i finally got my tank stocking list down. allrite so here it is: 1-Maroon Clownfish, 1-Yellow Tang, 1-BlueThroat Trigger, 1-Koran Angelfish, and i would also like 1 more tang but i was hoping u could help me decide, I would love a powder blue but i've heard they are very sensitive and would 2 tangs be okay? this is still the 125 gallon reef, the fish i cannot take off the list is the maroon clown but all the others are changeable if they are not compatible.


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oh could i also maybe add a Harlequin Tusk to that mix? I know they r can eat other fish but i feel the fish i have will be big enough to defend themselves. Thanks for all ur help.


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hey i'm back (hopefully ur not sick of me asking so many questions). So i think i finally got my tank stocking list down. allrite so here it is: 1-Maroon Clownfish, 1-Yellow Tang, 1-BlueThroat Trigger, 1-Koran Angelfish, and i would also like 1 more tang but i was hoping u could help me decide, I would love a powder blue but i've heard they are very sensitive and would 2 tangs be okay? this is still the 125 gallon reef, the fish i cannot take off the list is the maroon clown but all the others are changeable if they are not compatible.
You have a lot of largish fish in a moderately sized tank. Two tangs without an angel would be ok, but the yellow would have to be the last fish in the tank.


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oh could i also maybe add a Harlequin Tusk to that mix? I know they r can eat other fish but i feel the fish i have will be big enough to defend themselves. Thanks for all ur help.
should be ok but do not add any smallish fish


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Is there any Anglefish i could put in there( besides dwarf angelfish) if not thats ok? thank you


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