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Unread 10/03/2015, 04:47 AM   #5951
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Most recently I have been using 6 Blue and two purple bulbs on an 8bulb fixture, its working well, with rich color and a nice balance. Color is a personal preference and I would suggest reading through more of the thread to see various combos and pictures of the tanks that use them.
Which blue bulbs are you using?


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Unread 10/03/2015, 09:46 AM   #5952
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Which blue bulbs are you using?
A mix of 3 blue plus and 3 KZ Superblue with 2 KZ Fiji Purple on the 8 bulb fixture.


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Unread 10/03/2015, 06:46 PM   #5953
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A mix of 3 blue plus and 3 KZ Superblue with 2 KZ Fiji Purple on the 8 bulb fixture.
Is that not too blue?


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Unread 10/04/2015, 06:22 AM   #5954
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Getting ready to chang bulbs and I'm thinking of trying the Geisman actinic blue. Here's what I'm thinking.
2 6x36 ati dimmable sunpower.
Each fixture
4 actinic blue
2 coral plus

Or,
3 actinic blue
2 coral plus
1 ati purple plus

Not sure with the Geisman being already heavy in the actinic is it even worth running a purple bulb ?


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Unread 10/04/2015, 10:00 AM   #5955
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Getting ready to chang bulbs and I'm thinking of trying the Geisman actinic blue. Here's what I'm thinking.
2 6x36 ati dimmable sunpower.
Each fixture
4 actinic blue
2 coral plus

Or,
3 actinic blue
2 coral plus
1 ati purple plus

Not sure with the Geisman being already heavy in the actinic is it even worth running a purple bulb ?
I like the Geisemann purple lamp.. I did not at first but now that I am used to it I would do it again.. My corals love it and my anthias just glow under it.


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Unread 10/04/2015, 10:32 AM   #5956
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Is that not too blue?
Surprisingly enough, no, it's pretty balanced. It definitely has a blue overtone but the colors are rich.


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Unread 10/04/2015, 02:36 PM   #5957
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I like the Geisemann purple lamp.. I did not at first but now that I am used to it I would do it again.. My corals love it and my anthias just glow under it.

Thanks Dave. Yeah I'm leaning toward my secong choice. I dont want the tank to be to blue so I think the purple will balance it out.


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Unread 10/04/2015, 03:54 PM   #5958
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I like the Geisemann purple lamp.. I did not at first but now that I am used to it I would do it again.. My corals love it and my anthias just glow under it.

How does it compare to the ATI purple?


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Unread 10/04/2015, 08:35 PM   #5959
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Up until two weeks ago, I ran 5 Blue+ and 3 Coral +. I got excellent growth and good coloration. However, bias towards blue + slightly washed out non-reflective purple coloration of my Montipora monaseriata.

I have recently started to switch to the following combination:

3 Blue + 2 Coral + 1 purple +, 1 Aquablue special and 1 actinic (all ATI). I borrowed this combination from Scotty's tank thread.

I have not started to use the purple + bulb yet, but purples and pinks are more vivid and defined so far compared to my old combination.
Comparing the combined spectrums, this is actually very close to 2 purple and 6 blue. Since I had all the bulbs, I set up the Scotty combo, adjusted the camera with fixed Speed, ISO, and White Balance. This is that combo:




This is 2 purple and 6 blue:



The two combos are pretty close


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Unread 10/04/2015, 08:52 PM   #5960
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How does it compare to the ATI purple?
Pretty close I guess. The Giesemann seems to have a little more red or pop to it.. But when I ran the ATI purple I had all ATI bulbs and a different combo of lights. .. I still run then down on my frag tanks but next order I am switching to all Giesemann


I run all Giesemann on my main tank so it really hard to say what a individual lamp is like by its self...


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Unread 10/07/2015, 06:58 PM   #5961
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Hey all. I'm deciding on switching to T5's on my 29 biocube. It will be a 4 bulb fixture. What combo of bulbs would work best/ look best for a mixed reef with an BTA? Any help is appreciated.


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Unread 10/08/2015, 09:53 PM   #5962
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How does the Hamilton Blue 460nm bulb compare to the ATI Blue plus in color and par?

Ive always used ATI Blue plus but can get on some hamiltons for a a very nice price

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Unread 10/16/2015, 07:58 AM   #5963
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Anyone know how many 24w bulbs I can run on an ATI or Advance 2x54w ballast?


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Unread 10/16/2015, 08:36 AM   #5964
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Comparing the combined spectrums, this is actually very close to 2 purple and 6 blue. Since I had all the bulbs, I set up the Scotty combo, adjusted the camera with fixed Speed, ISO, and White Balance.
Good work. I am very impressed. Yesterday, I slightly modified the order of my tubes, i.e.:

front

blue+
coral+
actinic
abs
purple+
blue+
coral+
blue+

This combination, though it contains the same bulbs, looks slightly less white and somewhat more blue.

I will also experiment with the following:

front

blue+
coral+
actinic
purple+
abs
blue+
coral+
blue+

and

front

coral+
blue+
actinic
purple+
abs
blue+
coral+
blue+

Referring to your pictures, I think I prefer the first one. Have you tried 6 B+, 1 P+ and 1 ABS? You may get crispier look.


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Unread 10/16/2015, 09:38 AM   #5965
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Good work. I am very impressed. Yesterday, I slightly modified the order of my tubes, i.e.:

front

blue+
coral+
actinic
abs
purple+
blue+
coral+
blue+

This combination, though it contains the same bulbs, looks slightly less white and somewhat more blue.

I will also experiment with the following:

front

blue+
coral+
actinic
purple+
abs
blue+
coral+
blue+

and

front

coral+
blue+
actinic
purple+
abs
blue+
coral+
blue+

Referring to your pictures, I think I prefer the first one. Have you tried 6 B+, 1 P+ and 1 ABS? You may get crispier look.
Yep, I used that combo for a while but there was a slight yellowish brown that I dint like as much as with the purple and blue only.


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Unread 10/16/2015, 10:12 AM   #5966
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Referring to your pictures, I think I prefer the first one. Have you tried 6 B+, 1 P+ and 1 ABS? You may get crispier look.

In my 6 bulb, I'm currently using the geisseman equivalents of these, I think...

4 actinic blues
1 super purple
1 aquablue azure

It's the best combo I've used so far in my t5 "career". It's the first time i added a purple bulb and the corals responded almost immediately and alk demand shot up fairly dramatically. Suppose I could just be a coincidence, but i truly don't believe it to be the case. I think sps like the spectrum in a purple bulb.


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Yep, I used that combo for a while but there was a slight yellowish brown that I dint like as much as with the purple and blue only.
I wonder if it is due to aqua blue special. I might swap it with another coral+ just for the sake of experiment as I have plenty of spares. I am a big fan of coral+.
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In my 6 bulb, I'm currently using the geisseman equivalents of these, I think...

4 actinic blues
1 super purple
1 aquablue azure

It's the best combo I've used so far in my t5 "career". It's the first time i added a purple bulb and the corals responded almost immediately and alk demand shot up fairly dramatically. Suppose I could just be a coincidence, but i truly don't believe it to be the case. I think sps like the spectrum in a purple bulb.
I was not keen on purple+ in the past when I used it as part of my dawn-dusk setting (i.e. the second tube from the front in a 6-tube combo). My tank looked too purple to my liking. However, in my latest configuration is it behind abs, which masks the purple hue.

Purple+'s blue peak is the same as that of blue+ so I am not surprised that you noticed increase in coral growth. In my T5 "career" (lol), the best combination for coral growth was 5 blue+ and 3 coral+. I could not keep up with the growth in some corals (especially staghorns). It was ridiculous. However, the overall spectrum lacked something in that purples looked slightly "washed".

As for Giesemann, I tend to use ATI tubes only because of their longevity. I used my last batch of eight tubes for 11 months. I detected spectrum shift after this period though in PAR terms I still got very good readings.

A recent research suggests that Guisemann tubes lose their PAR sooner than ATI tubes.


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Good to know. Not a big issue for me. I start replacing tubes at 7 months


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Lots to read to catch up, new to t5. So far most things appear to be liking the change to t5.
mY question is about SPS under t5. With 4 quality bulbs four inches off the water how far down into tank can I expect decent par for SPS?

Can I expect the Strawberry shortcake acro that's 4 inches down to get what it needs?


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Lots to read to catch up, new to t5. So far most things appear to be liking the change to t5.
mY question is about SPS under t5. With 4 quality bulbs four inches off the water how far down into tank can I expect decent par for SPS?

Can I expect the Strawberry shortcake acro that's 4 inches down to get what it needs?
This all depends on the fixture you are using. An ATI Sunpower or Powermodule can easily put out 300+ par at the bottom of a 24" deep tank.


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Lots to read to catch up, new to t5. So far most things appear to be liking the change to t5.
mY question is about SPS under t5. With 4 quality bulbs four inches off the water how far down into tank can I expect decent par for SPS?

Can I expect the Strawberry shortcake acro that's 4 inches down to get what it needs?
A coral 8" from the bulbs may be getting roasted, seriously.


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Hello all ,

I have a powermodule Hybrid with 4 bulbs but i dont know which bulbs take.
Can you help me ?


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Thanks, I'll get a par meter and check things out asap.


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I have a powermodule Hybrid with 4 bulbs but i dont know which bulbs take.
Can you help me ?
I suggest using the blue LEDs only. For the bulbs I'm not used to four bulbs as the mix but perhaps 2 coral plus and 2 blue plus? Take a look through the thread for 4 bulb combos.


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The T5 Q&a Thread - split

How effective for growth would this combo be?

4 B+
3 True actinic
1 ABS or Coral+

Thinking of switching from my current combo, which is.

FRONT TO BACK*
BLUE+
BLUE+
CORAL+
BLUE+
AQUABLUE SPECIAL
BLUE+
PURPLE+
BLUE+

Not overly impressed with growth after two years of the same combo; colors aren't that great either. Most seem washed out.

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