Idea for Faux sand bed. Envirotex Lite high gloss finish. - Page 24

Biggie · 11/02/2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by reeferNo99
hi guys..
I am planning to do this as well..
But the sand i have is in my other tank..
Just the sand need to 100% dry before i can use it
Thax

Reading earlier post suggest it needs tobe 100% dry or it will come out lookikng very cloudy and milky in color.

Ixthys · 11/02/2006, 03:14 PM

You're correct.

Plus, it's best not to have "dust" in your sand. Once this mixes with the epoxy, it turns mud colored as well.

I thoroughly rinsed the substrate I used, and then dried it completely.

Biggie · 11/02/2006, 05:35 PM

Im in a build right now with a 300 gal Acrylic and Im intrigued by this enough to have subscribed to this thread. Probably like many others Im leary to glue stuff down to the bottom
I posted my theory on how I might go about doing mine as tiled sections without a starboard underlay. Im hoping someone will thow up some input on this before I invest in alot of time and effort.

kamla · 11/03/2006, 09:45 PM

o.k. Faux sand bed experts.. i am going try this out on my new nano..
5.5 gal

i have the HD freemond stuff...

Now how much sand and how expocy do i need..
Please

Thax

petedoc · 03/09/2007, 08:29 AM

Has anyone tried pond foam with sand for a BB tank bottom?

pottsburg · 03/09/2007, 10:07 AM

I'd love to see this on the back of somebodies tank with some live rock embedded in it. It wouldn't look like an ocean as much but that would look freakin awesome!

petedoc · 03/09/2007, 12:41 PM

There are several tanks with pond foam and sand on the back wall.

pottsburg · 03/09/2007, 06:47 PM

let's see it!

petedoc · 03/09/2007, 07:08 PM

I think they are over in the large tank forum, but I can't seem to find them. Good luck!

petedoc · 03/09/2007, 07:15 PM

I found one, it is posted by mflamb.

AfAqua · 03/10/2007, 11:08 PM

This might help.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1

levon15 · 10/15/2007, 11:35 AM

Updates

Tiggsy · 10/15/2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pottsburg
I'd love to see this on the back of somebodies tank with some live rock embedded in it. It wouldn't look like an ocean as much but that would look freakin awesome!

SuperNerd · 12/16/2007, 11:47 AM

^^That looks amazing, Tiggsy!

wabio · 01/01/2008, 09:55 PM

Anyone have toxicity updates on the epoxy yet?

dogstar74 · 01/02/2008, 12:23 AM

None so far. 3+ years running. I've used pond foam, krylon, and two part epoxy resin for a faux sandbed in my 20H and had no problems with anything like that. Inverts happy, fish happy, and softy corals happy.

Oh I should say, that I had a xenia melt away over time. But I attribute that to water quality and lighting. I wouldn't blame the other materials in the tank to it's demise.

mitlik1 · 03/30/2008, 06:52 AM

Very cool thread. Any updates from people with the faux BB.

mitlik1 · 03/31/2008, 08:46 AM

bump

mitlik1 · 04/04/2008, 04:38 PM

Any good feedback/updates on your tanks?

dogstar74 · 04/04/2008, 09:30 PM

I am now having an algae outbreak, but I know that I overfed the tank for about 2 weeks, and that's the cause. I'll soon get it under control.

Everything else is really working well. I'm happy with the bottom, but it does become mottled and encrusted.

I miss a sandbed, and I'll probably go to a SSB on the next tank. But I don't regret this one, and I'm not changing this tank to a sand bed soon.

HTH.

Canarygirl · 05/08/2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

I'm happy with the bottom, but it does become mottled and encrusted.

do you mean, different than how a bare bottom acrylic gets mottled and encrusted?

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I miss a sandbed, and I'll probably go to a SSB on the next tank.

If your next tank is acrylic again, what kind of substrate would you use in a SSB to prevent it from scratching? Or are you thinking that you'd only do this with a glass tank?

dogstar74 · 05/08/2008, 11:17 PM

Sorry, my tank is just a regular All Glass 20 high. So I can't really answer about the scratching part.

As far as the mottling and encrusting, it's just like any surface that sits without being cleaned. If you leave it long enough alone, pretty soon you'll have purple, and green coraline algae all over it. I personally don't like coraline algae to a great extent, I even scrape the back of the tank occasionally to get the stuff off. But I don't mind it so much on the faux sand bed, and I'm happier with the faux bed than I would be with just a glass panel bottom or acrylic bottom.

Aaron

cp3823 · 07/06/2008, 10:58 AM

awesome thread. More pics please.

coraltastic · 12/28/2010, 11:58 PM

can we get some info on that tank tiggsy

dogstar74 · 12/29/2010, 12:15 AM

You may have to post him a Personal message, he posted that picture three years ago. This is a really old thread. But a good read none the less.

Aaron

03/09/2007, 08:29 AM	#580
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	Has anyone tried pond foam with sand for a BB tank bottom? __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

03/09/2007, 12:41 PM	#582
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	There are several tanks with pond foam and sand on the back wall. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

03/09/2007, 06:47 PM	#583
pottsburg Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 179	let's see it! __________________ "All thinking men are atheists." Ernest Hemingway Current Tank Info: 20L with 20lbs of LR, 20lbs of sand, 192watts of PC lighting.

03/09/2007, 07:08 PM	#584
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	I think they are over in the large tank forum, but I can't seem to find them. Good luck! __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

03/09/2007, 07:15 PM	#585
petedoc Premium Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lewiston Idaho Posts: 1,131	I found one, it is posted by mflamb. __________________ Charter member of the Trial and Error Club, when that doesn't work ask the stupid question here on RC to get an intelligent answer. Current Tank Info: 270Reef w/Chrysurus Angel,Vlamingi Tang, Atlantic Blue Tang, Dispar Anthias, Sargassum Trigger

11/02/2006, 03:14 PM	#577
Ixthys Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown, MD Posts: 562	You're correct. Plus, it's best not to have "dust" in your sand. Once this mixes with the epoxy, it turns mud colored as well. I thoroughly rinsed the substrate I used, and then dried it completely.

11/02/2006, 05:35 PM	#578
Biggie Moved On Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 785	Im in a build right now with a 300 gal Acrylic and Im intrigued by this enough to have subscribed to this thread. Probably like many others Im leary to glue stuff down to the bottom I posted my theory on how I might go about doing mine as tiled sections without a starboard underlay. Im hoping someone will thow up some input on this before I invest in alot of time and effort.

11/03/2006, 09:45 PM	#579
kamla Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 489	o.k. Faux sand bed experts.. i am going try this out on my new nano.. 5.5 gal i have the HD freemond stuff... Now how much sand and how expocy do i need.. Please Thax

03/09/2007, 10:07 AM	#581
pottsburg Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 179	I'd love to see this on the back of somebodies tank with some live rock embedded in it. It wouldn't look like an ocean as much but that would look freakin awesome!

03/10/2007, 11:08 PM	#586
AfAqua Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 110	This might help. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1

10/15/2007, 11:35 AM	#587
levon15 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Columbia, IL Posts: 2,070	Updates __________________ "For he who serves his fellows, is of all his fellows, greatest" - E. Urner Goodman Current Tank Info: Downgrading from a 75 back to a nanocube of some kind.

12/16/2007, 11:47 AM	#589
SuperNerd Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal/Left Side- USA Posts: 4,572	^^That looks amazing, Tiggsy! __________________ I said fraggit! Current Tank Info: M-728 Combat Engineer (based on M60 hull). M-3 Lee Medium (British version with squatter).

01/01/2008, 09:55 PM	#590
wabio Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 86	Anyone have toxicity updates on the epoxy yet?

01/02/2008, 12:23 AM	#591
dogstar74 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,152	None so far. 3+ years running. I've used pond foam, krylon, and two part epoxy resin for a faux sandbed in my 20H and had no problems with anything like that. Inverts happy, fish happy, and softy corals happy. Oh I should say, that I had a xenia melt away over time. But I attribute that to water quality and lighting. I wouldn't blame the other materials in the tank to it's demise. __________________ "If there's nothing wrong with me... then there must be something wrong with the universe!" Current Tank Info: 10 gallon nano with ATS

03/30/2008, 06:52 AM	#592
mitlik1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 349	Very cool thread. Any updates from people with the faux BB.

03/31/2008, 08:46 AM	#593
mitlik1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 349	bump

04/04/2008, 04:38 PM	#594
mitlik1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 349	Any good feedback/updates on your tanks?

04/04/2008, 09:30 PM	#595
dogstar74 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,152	I am now having an algae outbreak, but I know that I overfed the tank for about 2 weeks, and that's the cause. I'll soon get it under control. Everything else is really working well. I'm happy with the bottom, but it does become mottled and encrusted. I miss a sandbed, and I'll probably go to a SSB on the next tank. But I don't regret this one, and I'm not changing this tank to a sand bed soon. HTH. __________________ "If there's nothing wrong with me... then there must be something wrong with the universe!" Current Tank Info: 10 gallon nano with ATS

05/08/2008, 11:17 PM	#597
dogstar74 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,152	Sorry, my tank is just a regular All Glass 20 high. So I can't really answer about the scratching part. As far as the mottling and encrusting, it's just like any surface that sits without being cleaned. If you leave it long enough alone, pretty soon you'll have purple, and green coraline algae all over it. I personally don't like coraline algae to a great extent, I even scrape the back of the tank occasionally to get the stuff off. But I don't mind it so much on the faux sand bed, and I'm happier with the faux bed than I would be with just a glass panel bottom or acrylic bottom. Aaron __________________ "If there's nothing wrong with me... then there must be something wrong with the universe!" Current Tank Info: 10 gallon nano with ATS

07/06/2008, 10:58 AM	#598
cp3823 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 469	awesome thread. More pics please.

12/28/2010, 11:58 PM	#599
coraltastic Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: richmond ky Posts: 290	can we get some info on that tank tiggsy

12/29/2010, 12:15 AM	#600
dogstar74 Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,152	You may have to post him a Personal message, he posted that picture three years ago. This is a really old thread. But a good read none the less. Aaron __________________ "If there's nothing wrong with me... then there must be something wrong with the universe!" Current Tank Info: 10 gallon nano with ATS