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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by GoVols1983

I just moved to a 75 gallon tank and am going to replace my ocellaris clown( one jumped the tank and I am trading the other for credit) with a pair of either Clarkii, cinnamon, or designer percula(onyx or Picasso).

There is a significant different in the aggressiveness of the species you are considering once they are bonded. The designer clowns are least aggressive once bonded and mating, the clarkii are the most aggressive followed closely by the cinnamon clownfish.

My current fish are as follows:
Yellow watchman and pistol shrimp
Purple firefish
Orchid dottyback

Future(wants)
Dwarf angel (flame or coral beauty)
Fairy wrasse
Pair of clowns I assume this is not a second pair of clowns since that will not work
Suggestions?

[GoVols1983]

Only one pair of clowns. Are the Clarkii and Cinnamon clowns so aggressive that they would kill the other tank mates I have listed?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by GoVols1983

Only one pair of clowns. Are the Clarkii and Cinnamon clowns so aggressive that they would kill the other tank mates I have listed?

Unless you have a very large tank, only one pair of clowns irrespective of species. Yes, clarkii clowns are aggressive second only to GSM clowns.

[Justin1997]

So I have a 125 g tank.. Two years running. Starting to look good with tangs, angles and butterfly's.... Outbreak of ich hit and one by one lost a good part of my tank.
Thinking of a uv sterilizer?????
Now thinking of rebuilding and change of plans...
Loved my Copperband and Falcula butterfly's...
BUT.. I am now thinking of more disease resistant fish...
I still have my Sailfin and Clown tang and Ocellaris clown.
So... I'm thinking now Lion fish..
Not sure if the Ocellaris clown will last, or possibly trade him in for a Maroon clown.
I would like to replace my yellow tang.
And from what I understand a Marine Betta would be good companion.
Any other suggestions on tank mates with the route I'm going??

[hberickson]

Here is my wish list of fish in my 46g bow front tank.
Will this amount of fish work; could I put any more in? Suggestions?

Fish:
Tiger Watchman Goby
High Fin Red Banded Goby
Ocellaris Clownfish pair
Kaudern’s Cardinal x 3
Mandarin Dragonet
Lawnmower Blenny
A type of Flasher Wrasse

Inverts:
Banded Coral Shrimp
Pistol Shrimp
Various snails for CUC
Various hermits for CUC
Possibly 1 or 2 emerald crabs
Feather Duster

[GoVols1983]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Unless you have a very large tank, only one pair of clowns irrespective of species. Yes, clarkii clowns are aggressive second only to GSM clowns.

Sorry, I was just stating that I only wanted one pair of clowns. I need to work on my wording. Thanks for the input! Looks like I may go the perc route.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Justin1997

So I have a 125 g tank.. Two years running. Starting to look good with tangs, angles and butterfly's.... Outbreak of ich hit and one by one lost a good part of my tank. and unless you have had a 10 week fallow period, you still have it in your tank
Thinking of a uv sterilizer????? not effective at preventing or treating ich
Now thinking of rebuilding and change of plans...
Loved my Copperband and Falcula butterfly's...
BUT.. I am now thinking of more disease resistant fish... no fish is resistant to ich
I still have my Sailfin and Clown tang which require a larger tank and Ocellaris clown.
So... I'm thinking now Lion fish.. which will consume any fish half its size
Not sure if the Ocellaris clown will last, or possibly trade him in for a Maroon clown. either will be eaten
I would like to replace my yellow tang.
And from what I understand a Marine Betta would be good companion. eats small fish
Any other suggestions on tank mates with the route I'm going??

Sorry, but I do not provide commentary or analysis on aggressive fish tanks. As those who follow this thread know, I also do not provide suggestions or recommendations

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by hberickson

Here is my wish list of fish in my 46g bow front tank.
Will this amount of fish work; could I put any more in? Suggestions?

Fish:
Tiger Watchman Goby I would suggest only one goby
High Fin Red Banded Goby
Ocellaris Clownfish pair
Kaudern’s Cardinal x 3 a tank raised male female pair would work, three will become two or possible one if all the same sex
Mandarin Dragonet needs a larger, mature tank or a producing refugium
Lawnmower Blenny
A type of Flasher Wrasse requires a tightly covered tank as this is a prolific jumper

Inverts:
Banded Coral Shrimp
Pistol Shrimp
Various snails for CUC
Various hermits for CUC
Possibly 1 or 2 emerald crabs
Feather Duster

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by GoVols1983

Sorry, I was just stating that I only wanted one pair of clowns. I need to work on my wording. Thanks for the input! Looks like I may go the perc route.

good decision

[jws0318]

Hi Steve,

120g mixed reef, current fish are:

Radiant wrasse
McCoskers Wrasse
Sunburst Anthias
tailspot blenny
randall goby

I'd like to add (in this order?):

Copperband butterfly
watanabei Angel
Kole yellow eye or lemon mimic tang

1) Any issues with the CBB and either of the tangs or the Angel?

2) Any behavioral differences between the 2 tangs that should factor into my choice, based on stocking list?

3) Assuming the above is all added over a period of time, would i be able to add a Leopard wrasse of some sort as a final fish down the road, or will the tang and angel prohibit a shy fish like a leopard wrasse?

Thanks as always for your advice!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by jws0318

Hi Steve,

120g mixed reef, current fish are:

Radiant wrasse
McCoskers Wrasse
Sunburst Anthias
tailspot blenny
randall goby

I'd like to add (in this order?):

Copperband butterfly
watanabei Angel
Kole yellow eye or lemon mimic tang

1) Any issues with the CBB and either of the tangs or the Angel? no. however CBB are sensitive to the mood of co-inhabitants and ideally should be introduced first. CBB are a mixed bag in terms of success, with the Australian versions being easier and in general more successful. Note the CBB are not guaranteed to be reef safe; about 50% of the time they are not, and they are definitely not clam safe

2) Any behavioral differences between the 2 tangs that should factor into my choice, based on stocking list? kole tang, if available is somewhat more docile

3) Assuming the above is all added over a period of time, would i be able to add a Leopard wrasse of some sort as a final fish down the road, or will the tang and angel prohibit a shy fish like a leopard wrasse? a leopard wrasse depends on species to a large degree. If they are healthy, they are not difficult with peaceful inhabitants, but they should be dewormed with Prazipro always, and need a fine sand for escape when introduced.

Thanks as always for your advice!

Always a pleasure.

[jws0318]

What are your thoughts on a Pyramid butterfly instead of a CBB? From everything i read, they are reef safe, but i am right at the minimum suggested tank size.

As far as the Leopard wrasse, I really like the bipartitus. I do have a fine sand substrate (the Radiant wrasse buries himself nightly like clockwork)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by jws0318

What are your thoughts on a Pyramid butterfly instead of a CBB? From everything i read, they are reef safe, but i am right at the minimum suggested tank size.

Completely different. Both the yellow and black (Zoster) would do well. They do get large, however.


As far as the Leopard wrasse, I really like the bipartitus. I do have a fine sand substrate (the Radiant wrasse buries himself nightly like clockwork)

bipartus is excellent, and readily available (even the African endemic) but must be dewormed, and must be healthy with no mouth damage. If buying locally, make sure they eat PE mysis.

[jws0318]

Thank you for all of your help!

[Whystler]

55G reef tank (Have not added yet but plan to focus on zoas and ricordea.)
80lbs of dead/live rock
3in sandbed.
5G refugium with tons of macro algae.


Stocking list:
Currently have:
2x Peppermint shrimp
2x PJ Cardinals
1x banggai Cardinal
1x Blue Neon Goby
1x Golden Midas Blenny(new arrival hoping it adds more movement/color)

Would like to add
2x osc. clowns
1x pygmy cherub angelfish
over the next 2 months

Then I would also like to add a shrimp/goby pair OR a mandarin goby later on. I think this is wishful thinking though. Please advise or throw out some recommendations.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Whystler

55G reef tank (Have not added yet but plan to focus on zoas and ricordea.)
80lbs of dead/live rock
3in sandbed.
5G refugium with tons of macro algae.


Stocking list:
Currently have:
2x Peppermint shrimp
2x PJ Cardinals
1x banggai Cardinal
1x Blue Neon Goby
1x Golden Midas Blenny(new arrival hoping it adds more movement/color)

Would like to add
2x osc. clowns
1x pygmy cherub angelfish not necessarily reef safe, but one of the most reef safe dwarf/pygmy angels
over the next 2 months

Then I would also like to add a shrimp/goby pair OR a mandarin goby later on. I think this is wishful thinking though. Please advise or throw out some recommendations.

a mandarin is not likely to do well long term unless you add a producing refugium but the shrimp/goby would be fine. Definitely not both as your tank is getting a bit crowded

[Whystler]

Originally Posted by snorvich

a mandarin is not likely to do well long term unless you add a producing refugium but the shrimp/goby would be fine. Definitely not both as your tank is getting a bit crowded

Sleeper Banded Goby (Amblygobius phalaena) does this species pair with a shrimp? reading conflicting information. I was thinking this would be a better option than the mandarin. Should i wait awhile and let the microfauna in my sand bed get more established if i go this route?

Also what order should I add the clowns and angel and sleeper goby(if i go sleeper over a wheelers goby/tiger pistol combo)? I am going to get juvi clowns so they will hopefully pair up. I am just afraid once they pair up i wont be able to add anything else to the tank.

[reefgoddess808]

Hi Steve!
Thank you for your previous help, I have added a sailfin blenny who is doing very well.
So I would like to ask about my next panned addition.

56 g FOWLR
Toby Puffer
Ocellaris Clown
Coral Beauty
Sailfin Blenny

would like to add
Flasher Wrasse
Court Jester Goby

Thanks!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Whystler

Sleeper Banded Goby (Amblygobius phalaena) does this species pair with a shrimp? reading conflicting information. I was thinking this would be a better option than the mandarin. Should i wait awhile and let the microfauna in my sand bed get more established if i go this route?

this fish would not do well in a smallish tank and does not form a commensal relationship with alpheus randall shrimp. A wheelers goby would be fine.

Also what order should I add the clowns and angel and sleeper goby(if i go sleeper over a wheelers goby/tiger pistol combo)? I am going to get juvi clowns so they will hopefully pair up. I am just afraid once they pair up i wont be able to add anything else to the tank.

clownfish mature over months so a bonded pair will not instantly result.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by reefgoddess808

Hi Steve!
Thank you for your previous help, I have added a sailfin blenny who is doing very well.
So I would like to ask about my next panned addition.

56 g FOWLR
Toby Puffer will nip fish
Ocellaris Clown
Coral Beauty
Sailfin Blenny

would like to add
Flasher Wrasse
Court Jester Goby may need a larger tank because of feeding issues. A flasher wrasse requires a tightly covered tank (not egg crate).

Thanks!

[Whystler]

Originally Posted by snorvich

clownfish mature over months so a bonded pair will not instantly result.

Confirmed my feelings.
Thanks A lot! I appreciate your time and effort.

[reefgoddess808]

I have a fitted glass canopy top, only a very small gap in the back where the HOB filters flow back in. Would that be sufficient?
And what feeding issues with the court jester goby?

Thanks again!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by reefgoddess808

I have a fitted glass canopy top, only a very small gap in the back where the HOB filters flow back in. Would that be sufficient?

Ideally cover it with 1/4 inch mesh, these fish are escape artists

And what feeding issues with the court jester goby?

you need a mature tank with microalgae, copepods, etc. Feeding at least a couple of times per day with meaty food is preferred.

Thanks again!

[reefgoddess808]

Ok thank you so much!
I have pretty good algae growth right now but ill make sure to maintain it and I will start adding pods now. I already feed twice, sometimes three times daily.
Ill see if I can modify the plastic strip that came with the tank lid to fit tighter.

Again, thank you so much!

[beanman]

Hi all,
I have a 180g mixed reef, I have two yellow eye kole tangs, scopus tang, fox face and a few small fish like clowns and firefish. I am thinking it would be cool to get a powder blue tang if it is possible?

Any thoughts if these guys would get a long? I would like to get another tang if I can.

Thanks in advance.