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Unread 01/31/2016, 02:32 PM   #6101
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On my 8 bulb I've got on the way I've got the following combo picked for max growth.
Aquablue
Coral +
True Actinic
Aquablue
Coral +
True Actinic
Aquablue
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Unread 01/31/2016, 02:33 PM   #6102
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Aquablue special vs coral plus.. anyone have growth comparisons?
Not that I know of - functionally they should work the same, its really a visual preference only. The Coral Plus has slightly higher PAR.


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Unread 01/31/2016, 02:36 PM   #6103
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On my 8 bulb I've got on the way I've got the following combo picked for max growth.
Aquablue
Coral +
True Actinic
Aquablue
Coral +
True Actinic
Aquablue
Coral +
Wow, that is a lot of light - It will certainly work but you may find it too yellow. If you do I'd swap out Aquablue specials and replace them with blue plus.


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Unread 02/01/2016, 08:43 AM   #6104
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Not that I know of - functionally they should work the same, its really a visual preference only. The Coral Plus has slightly higher PAR.
I used to run 6 blue + and 2 coral+loved the color for acans and red lps but wasn't a huge fan of the pinkish look the coral plus gave my wrasses and clowns, so I swapped them for ati aquablue specials to see if they were as bad at washing out as people said. They definitely don't give the reds and oranges as much pop as the coral + but they are much much brighter white bulbs and I prefer the more natural look they give slightly over the coral +. It would be interesting to see the growth differences. I've stuck with this combo for a while now.


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Unread 02/01/2016, 09:31 AM   #6105
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Wow, that is a lot of light - It will certainly work but you may find it too yellow. If you do I'd swap out Aquablue specials and replace them with blue plus.

For display purposes I would have gone with some blue plus, but this is for a SPS frag tank and chosen for growth purposes only.


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Unread 02/01/2016, 09:38 AM   #6106
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Looking at buying an ATI 8x80w fixture for my 30-inch deep 220g build. My plan is to supplement it with Kessil LED's at some point as well, possibly taking out the 2 center bulbs to make room for the Kessil's.

So, my question would be what would a good bulb combo be? I'm completely new to T5's. I am partial to a blue look but I've always had LED's and might be a little spoiled by that.

Livestock will be a mixed reef. SPS, LPS, and softies will all be present.

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!


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Unread 02/01/2016, 11:02 AM   #6107
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Looking at buying an ATI 8x80w fixture for my 30-inch deep 220g build. My plan is to supplement it with Kessil LED's at some point as well, possibly taking out the 2 center bulbs to make room for the Kessil's.

So, my question would be what would a good bulb combo be? I'm completely new to T5's. I am partial to a blue look but I've always had LED's and might be a little spoiled by that.

Livestock will be a mixed reef. SPS, LPS, and softies will all be present.

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
The best combo to start out with would be 5 Blue plus, 2 Coral Plus, one Purple plus(Or Fiji Purple, which is a better purple).


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Unread 02/01/2016, 12:10 PM   #6108
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FYI right now at BRS KZ bulbs are on sale, 25% off!


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Unread 02/01/2016, 01:36 PM   #6109
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The only KZ bulb i've tried was the KZ coral light new gen, it was comparable with the aquablue special as far as color and brightness to the eye.


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Unread 02/01/2016, 02:38 PM   #6110
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The best combo to start out with would be 5 Blue plus, 2 Coral Plus, one Purple plus(Or Fiji Purple, which is a better purple).
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Unread 02/01/2016, 03:49 PM   #6111
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The only KZ bulb i've tried was the KZ coral light new gen, it was comparable with the aquablue special as far as color and brightness to the eye.
I think you may be thinking of the standard Coral Light. It is similar to the ABS. The New Gen is much whiter and higher K white bulb - closer to a Coral plus with less red and very close to an Aquablue Azure by Giesemann. Its a quality bulb with a ton of PAR.

The KZ Fiji Purple is the original and Best Purple Bulb, and is the one Bulb KZ makes that is better than their competitors.


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Unread 02/01/2016, 04:34 PM   #6112
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I think you may be thinking of the standard Coral Light. It is similar to the ABS. The New Gen is much whiter and higher K white bulb - closer to a Coral plus with less red and very close to an Aquablue Azure by Giesemann. Its a quality bulb with a ton of PAR.

The KZ Fiji Purple is the original and Best Purple Bulb, and is the one Bulb KZ makes that is better than their competitors.
You are right, it is the coral light. My mistake.


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Unread 02/02/2016, 12:44 AM   #6113
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Ok, so I have a 48/48/24 cube tank that is being lit by 4 rapidled DIY Aurora pucks. They have the same diode layout as the the radion does. Question, if I want to incorporate led into these, how many bulbs do you recommend?
And how many bulbs would you suggest for the tank if I ditch the LEDs?

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Unread 02/02/2016, 01:20 AM   #6114
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Ok, so I have a 48/48/24 cube tank that is being lit by 4 rapidled DIY Aurora pucks. They have the same diode layout as the the radion does. Question, if I want to incorporate led into these, how many bulbs do you recommend?
And how many bulbs would you suggest for the tank if I ditch the LEDs?

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If you ditch the LEDs:

If you want to grow SPS in there and get good coverage - that is, light at high levels at every point in the tank, 2 8x54 watt fixtures. Those are 48" and would go right to the edge.
I know you are not an SPS junkie and So for excellent coverage you could go with the 36" 39watt fixtures. 2 8x39Watt fixtures is 624 watts when all 16 bulbs are on. That will let you grow All kinds of corals almost everywhere in the tank, just slightly lower par near the edges.

I have a 36"X 48" reef with an 8 bulb and a 6 bulb 39 watt sunpowers and that combo covers nicely with both fixtures touching. Two more bulbs and a little gap between the fixtures will handle 48x48 with even par across the whole tank.

If you go with LPS and very easy SPS you may get away with 2 6X39 watt fixtures but I think you would regret not getting the 8 bulb fixtures later.


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Unread 02/02/2016, 07:55 AM   #6115
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I have an ATI Sunpower 6X54W light and am getting ready to swap out the bulbs. I am debating between 2 bulb configurations. Can someone give me some insight into which one might be better or if either of them seem like a disaster waiting to happen?
This is over a 90 gallon mixed reef.

1. ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +
ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +
ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +

2. ATI Blue +
ATI Blue +
ATI Coral +
ATI Purple +
ATI Blue +
ATI Coral +



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Unread 02/02/2016, 09:00 AM   #6116
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Matt, thank you for the advice. . I think I am coming into the SPS realm. I'm slowly dropping my nitrates in my LPS/softy tank. Going to go sps/LPS. So I'm open to suggestion. Not sure if I'll ditch the leds or not. I'm not completely opposed of the idea.
It's an open top tank with rock in a "U" shape with the open end at the front of the tank. Would 36 inch fixtures work?

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Unread 02/02/2016, 09:11 AM   #6117
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I have an ATI Sunpower 6X54W light and am getting ready to swap out the bulbs. I am debating between 2 bulb configurations. Can someone give me some insight into which one might be better or if either of them seem like a disaster waiting to happen?
This is over a 90 gallon mixed reef.

1. ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +
ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +
ATI aqua blue
ATI blue +

2. ATI Blue +
ATI Blue +
ATI Coral +
ATI Purple +
ATI Blue +
ATI Coral +
The second would look better IMO but both will grow coral very well


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Matt, thank you for the advice. . I think I am coming into the SPS realm. I'm slowly dropping my nitrates in my LPS/softy tank. Going to go sps/LPS. So I'm open to suggestion. Not sure if I'll ditch the leds or not. I'm not completely opposed of the idea.
It's an open top tank with rock in a "U" shape with the open end at the front of the tank. Would 36 inch fixtures work?

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Yep 36" fixtures will give you good coverage. If I were you I'd ditch the LED. Four Aurora pucks covering 16 square feet is so underpowered it's ridiculous, and adding them to T5s will just add a confusing element to dialing in the light. With T5, you hang fixture 10 inches above the water to start and turn it on for 12 hours for the 2 bulb circuit, 6-8 hours all bulbs on. It's pretty foolproof.

I'd go with 8X36" non dimmable sunpowers. The 8 bulb circuit layout would let you take out two bulbs on either end if you like to essentially make them a 6 bulb light - you could run that way at the start but have the option to add two more bulbs to increase coverage and par.


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Matt,
Not sure if you've seen my layout but here is an old pic for reference.
The 4 pucks are thin coverage for sure. But the way they are positioned there is no fixture in the center of the tank. So, you think 2 8 bulb fixtures will do it?

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Not sure if you've seen my layout but here is an old pic for reference.
The 4 pucks are thin coverage for sure. But the way they are positioned there is no fixture in the center of the tank. So, you think 2 8 bulb fixtures will do it?

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Two 8 Bulb fixtures will cover it for sure


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Just ordered an 8x24" dimmable sunpower... going to run 6 blue+ 1 coral+ 1 purple plus. So I should hang the light 10" awl to start? Have a 24 tall tank with a shallow rockscape.... highest point is 12" lowest being around 4 to 6" what par should I be seeing at the bare bottom of my tank, I say bare bottom obviously be a use there's no sand.


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Just ordered an 8x24" dimmable sunpower... going to run 6 blue+ 1 coral+ 1 purple plus. So I should hang the light 10" awl to start? Have a 24 tall tank with a shallow rockscape.... highest point is 12" lowest being around 4 to 6" what par should I be seeing at the bare bottom of my tank, I say bare bottom obviously be a use there's no sand.
Start off at 100%, don't dim the bulbs til they burn in for a while. On my 22" tall tank at 8" above the water line here were some of my numbers for comparison(bulbs about 6 months old):

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I'm stuck between choices. I dont want it to be TOO blue, but not too white either... i want the purples and blues and reds to really pop in the tank. Right now it has a washed out windex/bright white look to it which i hate. (running "stock" aquaticlife bulbs that came in 4 bulb fixture)

Its a 4 bulb 30" fixture

I'm thinking:

1 true actinic
1 blue+
1 coral+
1 purple+

or

1 actinic
2 blue+
1 coral+


or even

1 actinic
2 blue+
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