New Lumen Bright Reflector. ... any info on them - Page 25

glxtrix · 01/24/2008, 02:31 PM

wow guys great looking tanks! Glad these are working out well for everyone

Here is mine. Still running the Iwasaki 175's and only at 10 or 12" I might try the reeflux bulbs in the 175's, then again if I can I might goto 250's with only 2 bulbs. What do you guys think? Stay with the 3x175's or goto 2x250's?

raynist · 01/24/2008, 03:47 PM

I would stick with the Iwasaki's or go with the 250's. I don't think the 175w coralvues have anywhere near the PAR of the Iwasaki's although they will be bluer.

JMaxwell · 01/27/2008, 02:43 PM

Does anyone know if there is a DE version on the lumen brigt mini yet?

thx,

JSM

JRaquatics · 01/27/2008, 02:48 PM

Yes they are now available. Reef Specialty has a few of them. They are really a slick looking reflector. I think there is a limited quantity of these available right now.

jmc74 · 01/27/2008, 03:19 PM

ok, question here...

I have a 48"w x 24" d x 12" h frag tank, and currently have a dual 250w HQI fixture w/4x 65w PC actinics over it.

I want to save on electricity, would a single 20x20 Lumenbright or Lumenarc would cover like a 36x24 area? I want to get the color and growth but save $$ on electric bill, I can use a 250w or would be better two minis w/ 175w each?

also about how hight the reflectors will need to be from the tank?

thanks

glxtrix · 01/28/2008, 09:44 AM

thanks raynist, I just looked at the numbers....it would be pretty silly for me to change. The 175 reeflux are pretty bad in numbers and my bulbs keep up with a lot and beat most 250's. Guesss I'll just stick with it.

glxtrix · 01/28/2008, 09:47 AM

jmc...personally I'd go with 2x175 iwasaki's in the mini LB's. They kick some extremely impressive PAR. but if you only want to do 1 the LA I think would be better for the spread. It's not going to give you as much PAR, but it'll definately cover more of the area you need.

jmc74 · 01/28/2008, 07:53 PM

glxtrix

but even if I use the LA 20x20 w/250w it won't give enough PAR? my frag tank is only 12" deep, and the frags are about 4" below the water level, so technically if I set the LA about 12" above the tank the corals will be 16" under the lowest part of the LA reflector, is that not enough PAR?

also what bulb on the SE 250w has the most PAR/COLOR combination? ReefLux 12k?

thanks

kidney514 · 02/02/2008, 09:50 PM

I am in the process of building my tank (84L" x 22D" x 24H")

Which one of the Lumen Bright should I get the mini or the large one? And is 3 of them enough for my tank (250 watters).

What ballast should I get?

glxtrix · 02/02/2008, 10:20 PM

jmc....the best I've seen with 250's is hamilton 14K on a pfo ballast, puts 99ppfd. For a 14K thats pretty decent. Lots of people here use the reeflux on coralvue ballasts, they say it has the most natural color. But I dont think it has the best par that you "could" get. Dont worry about the height, they will get plenty of PAR there. I'm getting high 200's at the bottom of my 24" deep tank with 175's that are 10-12" Peep this website and do some configurations.

http://www.reeflightinginfo.arvixe.c...rmancedata.php

Kidney....Go with the minis. I have them on my 140 which is 24"D. # might be ok, just make sure you get them a lil bit higher 12-16" to help with spreading the light.

kidney514 · 02/02/2008, 10:54 PM

I don't have much room to go too high!

rickyb · 02/02/2008, 11:01 PM

One thing I would like to mention which I never noticed with any of my other light systems is that even with 1 reflector running at either side of tank I get some light at the opposite corner.

jmc74 · 02/02/2008, 11:42 PM

well, after all the advise, I found a reefer selling their LA3's and they are HUGE! 20x20

I got them at a really good price $150 for both, no corrosion or damage, he didn't even wanted to clean the light salt spray they have, because he didn't want to scratch them, they are like new, minus the light salt spray...

I can't wait to install one, but can anyone tell me the best way to clean them w/o scratching the reflector?

also will the Reeflux 12k or the ReefOptics 14k would be better for color and growth on my frag tank? as no other light will be used area is about 35+x20 corals are only 4" below water level.

JCTewks · 02/02/2008, 11:56 PM

I clean mine with Just HOT water and a paper towel. You could use a MILD vinegar solution to clean the as well. The LA3's can take a glass shield which will stop the salt spray.

jmc74 · 02/03/2008, 12:09 AM

thanks, I will use vinegar just to make sure is 100% clean...

cl2ysta1 · 02/03/2008, 11:34 AM

updated pix!!! and a video!

had some trouble with a ballast and it took a few weeks to finally get both going

tank is 4 ft by 3ft by 2ft

one going

both going

video

bubbletip2 · 02/03/2008, 12:26 PM

Tank looks great

Hardly a dark spot to be seen.

cl2ysta1 · 02/03/2008, 12:35 PM

nope. just under the ledges. I'm really a fan of these reflectors. The corals really seem to love them

Deuce67 · 02/03/2008, 12:39 PM

Just took some new par readings today and after 3 months, my 12K Reeflux has lost 4-5% of its par output. Is that good for a lamp?

TandN · 02/03/2008, 12:57 PM

cl2 do you have a tank build link ? I have the exact dimensions being built right now and would love to see how you decided to seti it up. Im also gonna go with 2 large LB on it w/ 4 T5's

cl2ysta1 · 02/03/2008, 01:08 PM

umm i dont really have a build thread i have a put together thread! We purchased it used, but build the skinning for the stand, and the canopy. give me a sec i'm going to have to try to find it

cl2ysta1 · 02/03/2008, 01:13 PM

there ya go. i couldnt find the one i did on reefcentral b/c the search function doesnt work. here is my local utah forum link

http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_pos...?TID=22653&KW=

TandN · 02/03/2008, 02:35 PM

kool thanks

Rickyrooz1 · 02/06/2008, 07:26 AM

cl2ysta1, looks like there is some shadowing in front of your Frogspawn. I am either going to get the LB's or the Lumenarc's but I'm concerned the LB's don't have enough spread as the LA III's. If i mount the bottom of the LB reflector 10" above the waters surface will I have a shadow underneath my center brace? I'm looking for a reflector set up where there will be no shadowing. I saw on Melev's Reef that he built a 90 gallon propagation tank for Dr. Mac and it used two LB's above the tank. The lighting spread for the LB doesn't look very good from the side shot. It looks like the light shoots straight down and not spreading out to cover the tank very well.

http://melevsreef.com/acrylics/90g_proptank.html

glxtrix · 02/06/2008, 08:21 AM

thats the whole purpose of the LB's, to shoot light down. Thats also why people raise them so high so there can be a bit more spread. If you're worried about even light distribution and dont have the height requirments, get the LA's. But if you want a true pump of light from your reflectors, get the LB's.....you wont be upset.

01/27/2008, 02:43 PM	#603
JMaxwell Most Interesting Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Long Beach Posts: 271	Does anyone know if there is a DE version on the lumen brigt mini yet? thx, JSM __________________ His reef is visible from space. JSM Current Tank Info: 225g custom display mixed reef, 100g sump/refugium

02/02/2008, 09:50 PM	#609
kidney514 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brossard, Quebec Posts: 687	Advice ...... I am in the process of building my tank (84L" x 22D" x 24H") Which one of the Lumen Bright should I get the mini or the large one? And is 3 of them enough for my tank (250 watters). What ballast should I get?

02/02/2008, 11:01 PM	#612
rickyb Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Coppell, TX Posts: 1,683	One thing I would like to mention which I never noticed with any of my other light systems is that even with 1 reflector running at either side of tank I get some light at the opposite corner. __________________ Reefaholic #9999889888777444899111558 Current Tank Info: 240G Custom Planet Aquariums

02/03/2008, 11:34 AM	#616
cl2ysta1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marion, Ohio Posts: 1,227	updated pix!!! and a video! had some trouble with a ballast and it took a few weeks to finally get both going tank is 4 ft by 3ft by 2ft one going both going video __________________ 900 Gallon Starphire in the works Current Tank Info: 120 gallon

02/03/2008, 12:26 PM	#617
bubbletip2 Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 736	Tank looks great Hardly a dark spot to be seen. __________________ 3-250W 12K Reeflux-CV Bllsts-3 Mini LB's,2 54w T5's,Advncd. ballast,2 - VTech MP40Ws,Reeflo Dart & Orca 200,Eshopps 37gsump, Ltrmtr + 1 - top off/alk-ca,RK 2 & AC JR,2 TLF Phosban Rctors,4 Orion fans Current Tank Info: 156G Oceanic SPS Dominant Reef System(L60.5 x W24.5 x H25) - 30g Cube plmbed into DT - 1 LG LB Pndt. - 250w EVC 14K(EVC Ballast) - Panworld(790gph feed)

01/24/2008, 02:31 PM	#601
glxtrix Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 882	wow guys great looking tanks! Glad these are working out well for everyone Here is mine. Still running the Iwasaki 175's and only at 10 or 12" I might try the reeflux bulbs in the 175's, then again if I can I might goto 250's with only 2 bulbs. What do you guys think? Stay with the 3x175's or goto 2x250's?

01/24/2008, 03:47 PM	#602
raynist Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 4,921	I would stick with the Iwasaki's or go with the 250's. I don't think the 175w coralvues have anywhere near the PAR of the Iwasaki's although they will be bluer.

01/27/2008, 02:48 PM	#604
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Yes they are now available. Reef Specialty has a few of them. They are really a slick looking reflector. I think there is a limited quantity of these available right now.

01/27/2008, 03:19 PM	#605
jmc74 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 691	ok, question here... I have a 48"w x 24" d x 12" h frag tank, and currently have a dual 250w HQI fixture w/4x 65w PC actinics over it. I want to save on electricity, would a single 20x20 Lumenbright or Lumenarc would cover like a 36x24 area? I want to get the color and growth but save $$ on electric bill, I can use a 250w or would be better two minis w/ 175w each? also about how hight the reflectors will need to be from the tank? thanks

01/28/2008, 09:44 AM	#606
glxtrix Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 882	thanks raynist, I just looked at the numbers....it would be pretty silly for me to change. The 175 reeflux are pretty bad in numbers and my bulbs keep up with a lot and beat most 250's. Guesss I'll just stick with it.

01/28/2008, 09:47 AM	#607
glxtrix Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 882	jmc...personally I'd go with 2x175 iwasaki's in the mini LB's. They kick some extremely impressive PAR. but if you only want to do 1 the LA I think would be better for the spread. It's not going to give you as much PAR, but it'll definately cover more of the area you need.

01/28/2008, 07:53 PM	#608
jmc74 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 691	glxtrix but even if I use the LA 20x20 w/250w it won't give enough PAR? my frag tank is only 12" deep, and the frags are about 4" below the water level, so technically if I set the LA about 12" above the tank the corals will be 16" under the lowest part of the LA reflector, is that not enough PAR? also what bulb on the SE 250w has the most PAR/COLOR combination? ReefLux 12k? thanks

02/02/2008, 10:20 PM	#610
glxtrix Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 882	jmc....the best I've seen with 250's is hamilton 14K on a pfo ballast, puts 99ppfd. For a 14K thats pretty decent. Lots of people here use the reeflux on coralvue ballasts, they say it has the most natural color. But I dont think it has the best par that you "could" get. Dont worry about the height, they will get plenty of PAR there. I'm getting high 200's at the bottom of my 24" deep tank with 175's that are 10-12" Peep this website and do some configurations. http://www.reeflightinginfo.arvixe.c...rmancedata.php Kidney....Go with the minis. I have them on my 140 which is 24"D. # might be ok, just make sure you get them a lil bit higher 12-16" to help with spreading the light.

02/02/2008, 10:54 PM	#611
kidney514 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brossard, Quebec Posts: 687	I don't have much room to go too high!

02/02/2008, 11:42 PM	#613
jmc74 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 691	well, after all the advise, I found a reefer selling their LA3's and they are HUGE! 20x20 I got them at a really good price $150 for both, no corrosion or damage, he didn't even wanted to clean the light salt spray they have, because he didn't want to scratch them, they are like new, minus the light salt spray... I can't wait to install one, but can anyone tell me the best way to clean them w/o scratching the reflector? also will the Reeflux 12k or the ReefOptics 14k would be better for color and growth on my frag tank? as no other light will be used area is about 35+x20 corals are only 4" below water level.

02/02/2008, 11:56 PM	#614
JCTewks Moved On Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Wilmington, Ohio Posts: 3,040	I clean mine with Just HOT water and a paper towel. You could use a MILD vinegar solution to clean the as well. The LA3's can take a glass shield which will stop the salt spray.

02/03/2008, 12:09 AM	#615
jmc74 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Antioch, CA Posts: 691	thanks, I will use vinegar just to make sure is 100% clean...

02/03/2008, 12:35 PM	#618
cl2ysta1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marion, Ohio Posts: 1,227	nope. just under the ledges. I'm really a fan of these reflectors. The corals really seem to love them __________________ 900 Gallon Starphire in the works Current Tank Info: 120 gallon

02/03/2008, 12:39 PM	#619
Deuce67 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: CO Posts: 3,750	Just took some new par readings today and after 3 months, my 12K Reeflux has lost 4-5% of its par output. Is that good for a lamp?

02/03/2008, 12:57 PM	#620
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	cl2 do you have a tank build link ? I have the exact dimensions being built right now and would love to see how you decided to seti it up. Im also gonna go with 2 large LB on it w/ 4 T5's

02/03/2008, 01:08 PM	#621
cl2ysta1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marion, Ohio Posts: 1,227	umm i dont really have a build thread i have a put together thread! We purchased it used, but build the skinning for the stand, and the canopy. give me a sec i'm going to have to try to find it __________________ 900 Gallon Starphire in the works Current Tank Info: 120 gallon

02/03/2008, 01:13 PM	#622
cl2ysta1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Marion, Ohio Posts: 1,227	there ya go. i couldnt find the one i did on reefcentral b/c the search function doesnt work. here is my local utah forum link http://utahreefs.com/forum/forum_pos...?TID=22653&KW= __________________ 900 Gallon Starphire in the works Current Tank Info: 120 gallon

02/03/2008, 02:35 PM	#623
TandN Registered Member. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,009	kool thanks

02/06/2008, 07:26 AM	#624
Rickyrooz1 Acropora Nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 2,453	cl2ysta1, looks like there is some shadowing in front of your Frogspawn. I am either going to get the LB's or the Lumenarc's but I'm concerned the LB's don't have enough spread as the LA III's. If i mount the bottom of the LB reflector 10" above the waters surface will I have a shadow underneath my center brace? I'm looking for a reflector set up where there will be no shadowing. I saw on Melev's Reef that he built a 90 gallon propagation tank for Dr. Mac and it used two LB's above the tank. The lighting spread for the LB doesn't look very good from the side shot. It looks like the light shoots straight down and not spreading out to cover the tank very well. http://melevsreef.com/acrylics/90g_proptank.html __________________ 120 Gallon Acropora dominated tank, barebottom, APEX Controller, ATI Sunpower 8x54w, Skimz SM163, Jebao DCT 6000 return pump & two Jebao OW-40. Current Tank Info: SPS Dominated

02/06/2008, 08:21 AM	#625
glxtrix Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: ATL, GA Posts: 882	thats the whole purpose of the LB's, to shoot light down. Thats also why people raise them so high so there can be a bit more spread. If you're worried about even light distribution and dont have the height requirments, get the LA's. But if you want a true pump of light from your reflectors, get the LB's.....you wont be upset.