Vertex Skimmer club - Page 25

ernordstrom · 01/05/2009, 08:36 PM

Well, I got my skimmer in today...has a bit of a crazed look to the collection cup but it still functions okay. The needwheel might be a bit of kilter cause it is a bit loud. It started up fine just has that "Quiet one" brand pump sound. Anyways, dealing with PA about warranty issues is a pleasure, they are sending out a collection cup oce they get more from the manufacturer. Honestly, the crazing is mearly cosmetic and will not affect the operation but it is still a defect in manufacturing however minute. the companies quality control will definitely nip it in the bud...despite the minor probs this is a solid performing skimmer... Whyireef, very good obserations about this thread..

Maybe I missed it in the thread but where is the "sweet spot" for the top of the water(foam) column?

Here are a couple of pics.

My blue Mille is happy...

ernordstrom · 01/05/2009, 09:47 PM

Nevermind about the "sweet spot" i just found it and man it is sweet...

newmoon · 01/05/2009, 09:59 PM

Looking good!
Now where is the picture of that baby bubbling?

gioNVA · 01/05/2009, 10:15 PM

Received my in-100 as well and sad to say that my collection cup has the same crazing as others. Here's a photo:

frenchie · 01/05/2009, 10:23 PM

wonder how they managed to only have problems with 100 model and not others did anyone else have problems with any other model skimmer cups or impellars or is this just in sump 100 models only.

ernordstrom · 01/05/2009, 10:25 PM

Heres a qucik pick after I got it going. I got it set for dry foam and it is frothy!! Like the head on a Guiness...

JACOXVIII · 01/05/2009, 10:27 PM

so the in250 got the house today
i played with it a bit in my 30g sump/fuge
but have to wait till i get the 75g sump/fuge done

will do a water change and put it in there for a brake in

ernordstrom · 01/05/2009, 10:28 PM

Not that I have heard. Even the guy at PA said the same thing, that it had been the 100. Who knows really except for the guys at the companies quality control ept., if they have one...who knows...All being said i love my skimmer. It is miles above my last one in quality and performance.

spoofer · 01/06/2009, 07:55 AM

Sorry, I haven't gotten any pics yet- i'm waiting for a working camera since my broke. However my IN-100 is doing great developing rich foam and a constant head. I'll post pics by the weekend hopefully

saltydragon · 01/06/2009, 08:43 AM

hey guys...how long does it take for the foam to build up again after you feed or put hand in tank?

frenchie · 01/06/2009, 08:48 AM

it can take a half hour or maybe even 2 hours depends if you just got out of shower and still have soap residue on you.

jpc763 · 01/06/2009, 12:47 PM

Help!

I am designing my sump and need to know how deep the skimmer can sit in water?

I can put it on a stand, but that adds to the overall height required under the stand!

The model is the In250.

Thanks, John

EvMiBo · 01/06/2009, 02:05 PM

well I ordered a few weeks ago. I ordered it to my school address. I was home away from school for christmas break. I got back last night and picked up the skimmer today from the office.

I too ordered the IN100 and I too have the markings in the collection cup. Here are a few pictures I just snapped. They look like little glass dents when I look close with some occasional horizontal scratches. I have to go to class here in a few but what do you guys think? Should I ask for a replacement from PA or will this perform the same? My setup won't be up and running for another 3 weeks or so I imagine. I'm kind of leaning towards getting a new one if I can because I'd like to be able to see all my gunk without having to see these markings.

edit: after looking at everyone elses I feel like mine has the most markings!

I think I'm going to email PA tonight to see if they can send me another...

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 02:15 PM

Just got the IN 180. Now it's running in my tank. Was SO hard to shut down my Octo Extreme 200 after I did the meshmod, as it was skimming like there was no tomorrow!

Pump on the IN 180 is dead silent, can't hear anything. Skimmer came perfect, other than the Vertex decal that was bad placed(I removed it anyway). Skimmer construction it's on par with the Octo Extreme 200, very good. More updates as it breaks in more.

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 02:21 PM

And for the IN 180 users, where are you leaving the water level inside the skimmer?

ecoreefer · 01/06/2009, 02:28 PM

newmoon -I'd love to hear a head-to-head of the Vertex 180 vs the Extreme 200. I was between these two skimmers and went with the Vertex due to the sale. Hopefully you can do a quick write-up with after a while with some honest hands-on feedback.

tangtang clown · 01/06/2009, 03:50 PM

I would put Newmoons skimmer pics up against any model Vertex. Not that his would win, but I would like to see some good skimmate pics from the Vertex.

Moon, please post some pics after you get it setup. Are you putting the Vertex on the same system you had the 200 on?

JACOXVIII · 01/06/2009, 04:41 PM

the crazing looks to be a reaction from the Styrofoam packing

frenchie · 01/06/2009, 05:33 PM

i'm running my 180 in 8" deep water, nice and quiet on thing i hear i my return pump which is mag 18 it has a nice hum to it.

frenchie · 01/06/2009, 05:37 PM

definitely have PA send you a new one cause it might work just fine but would hate to see the cup have some kind of flaw and crack and break so i would get another just to be safe.

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tangtang clown
I would put Newmoons skimmer pics up against any model Vertex. Not that his would win, but I would like to see some good skimmate pics from the Vertex.

Moon, please post some pics after you get it setup. Are you putting the Vertex on the same system you had the 200 on?

For sure buddy. Vertex it's in the same tank. Maybe there's not too much to skim, though, but I'm looking forward for it to really break in.
Will grab some pics later

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ecoreefer
newmoon -I'd love to hear a head-to-head of the Vertex 180 vs the Extreme 200. I was between these two skimmers and went with the Vertex due to the sale. Hopefully you can do a quick write-up with after a while with some honest hands-on feedback.

Sure thing!

I just need to wait to the IN 180 to really break in.

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by d.french
i'm running my 180 in 8" deep water, nice and quiet on thing i hear i my return pump which is mag 18 it has a nice hum to it.

D-French-
I'm asking about the "inside level", ya know. The "point" where water/air stills mixing "together". Above this "point" you see only foam.

When you feed the tank, your skimmer stops to foam and the level inside drops. THAT is the water level I'm asking for.

Would like to hear from IN 180 owners about this water level as well.

ernordstrom · 01/06/2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by newmoon
D-French-
I'm asking about the "inside level", ya know. The "point" where water/air stills mixing "together". Above this "point" you see only foam.

When you feed the tank, your skimmer stops to foam and the level inside drops. THAT is the water level I'm asking for.

Would like to hear from IN 180 owners about this water level as well.

I own the IN100 and although it is a bit smaller it is the same design. I broke in yesterday and just kind of fiddled with the level by rotating the pipe. If you want wetter skimmate let the level inside the collection cup/riser tube go higher, if you dryer skimmate run it around the black band where the collection cup fits into the skimmer. Thats what I did and it worked just fine. Just fiddle with it till when it starts to foam really good like a Guiness...then adjust the pipe for wet or dry...

newmoon · 01/06/2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ernordstrom
I own the IN100 and although it is a bit smaller it is the same design. I broke in yesterday and just kind of fiddled with the level by rotating the pipe. If you want wetter skimmate let the level inside the collection cup/riser tube go higher, if you dryer skimmate run it around the black band where the collection cup fits into the skimmer. Thats what I did and it worked just fine. Just fiddle with it till when it starts to foam really good like a Guiness...then adjust the pipe for wet or dry...

Thanks, I know about that. That's pretty much the way every skimmer works.
I just want to know from the IN 180 users where they have their water level set at first. I want to know how big of a head of foam these IN 180's are making. Guess I will find out soon!
I have mine set up now where the neck/collection cup attaches to the body. At the "O" ring level.

01/05/2009, 09:59 PM	#603
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	Looking good! Now where is the picture of that baby bubbling? __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/05/2009, 10:23 PM	#605
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	wonder how they managed to only have problems with 100 model and not others did anyone else have problems with any other model skimmer cups or impellars or is this just in sump 100 models only. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/06/2009, 07:55 AM	#609
spoofer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Uptown-Chicago, IL Posts: 654	Sorry, I haven't gotten any pics yet- i'm waiting for a working camera since my broke. However my IN-100 is doing great developing rich foam and a constant head. I'll post pics by the weekend hopefully __________________ "Nothing good ever happened fast in a Reef Aquarium- there is no quick fix's to Reef tanks!" Current Tank Info: 120g Tech Tank, Vortech MP40, Apex, ATI 8x54, Vertex IN-180, Mag 9.5, Phos & Carb Reactors, Kalk Drip via reefdosingpumps.com sentry model, 40 gallon Breeder DYI Sump

01/06/2009, 08:48 AM	#611
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	it can take a half hour or maybe even 2 hours depends if you just got out of shower and still have soap residue on you. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/06/2009, 02:05 PM	#613
EvMiBo VictoriaConcordiaCrescit Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 1,929	well I ordered a few weeks ago. I ordered it to my school address. I was home away from school for christmas break. I got back last night and picked up the skimmer today from the office. I too ordered the IN100 and I too have the markings in the collection cup. Here are a few pictures I just snapped. They look like little glass dents when I look close with some occasional horizontal scratches. I have to go to class here in a few but what do you guys think? Should I ask for a replacement from PA or will this perform the same? My setup won't be up and running for another 3 weeks or so I imagine. I'm kind of leaning towards getting a new one if I can because I'd like to be able to see all my gunk without having to see these markings. edit: after looking at everyone elses I feel like mine has the most markings! I think I'm going to email PA tonight to see if they can send me another... __________________ Evan \| DSA 135g Peninsula

01/05/2009, 08:36 PM	#601
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	Well, I got my skimmer in today...has a bit of a crazed look to the collection cup but it still functions okay. The needwheel might be a bit of kilter cause it is a bit loud. It started up fine just has that "Quiet one" brand pump sound. Anyways, dealing with PA about warranty issues is a pleasure, they are sending out a collection cup oce they get more from the manufacturer. Honestly, the crazing is mearly cosmetic and will not affect the operation but it is still a defect in manufacturing however minute. the companies quality control will definitely nip it in the bud...despite the minor probs this is a solid performing skimmer... Whyireef, very good obserations about this thread.. Maybe I missed it in the thread but where is the "sweet spot" for the top of the water(foam) column? Here are a couple of pics. My blue Mille is happy...

01/05/2009, 09:47 PM	#602
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	Nevermind about the "sweet spot" i just found it and man it is sweet...

01/05/2009, 10:15 PM	#604
gioNVA Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northern VA Posts: 244	Received my in-100 as well and sad to say that my collection cup has the same crazing as others. Here's a photo:

01/05/2009, 10:25 PM	#606
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	Heres a qucik pick after I got it going. I got it set for dry foam and it is frothy!! Like the head on a Guiness...

01/05/2009, 10:27 PM	#607
JACOXVIII Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KC MO Posts: 248	so the in250 got the house today i played with it a bit in my 30g sump/fuge but have to wait till i get the 75g sump/fuge done will do a water change and put it in there for a brake in

01/05/2009, 10:28 PM	#608
ernordstrom Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: JAX,FL Posts: 266	Not that I have heard. Even the guy at PA said the same thing, that it had been the 100. Who knows really except for the guys at the companies quality control ept., if they have one...who knows...All being said i love my skimmer. It is miles above my last one in quality and performance.

01/06/2009, 08:43 AM	#610
saltydragon Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Westbury L.i Posts: 402	hey guys...how long does it take for the foam to build up again after you feed or put hand in tank?

01/06/2009, 12:47 PM	#612
jpc763 Nothing to see Move along Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 800	Help! I am designing my sump and need to know how deep the skimmer can sit in water? I can put it on a stand, but that adds to the overall height required under the stand! The model is the In250. Thanks, John

01/06/2009, 02:15 PM	#614
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	Just got the IN 180. Now it's running in my tank. Was SO hard to shut down my Octo Extreme 200 after I did the meshmod, as it was skimming like there was no tomorrow! Pump on the IN 180 is dead silent, can't hear anything. Skimmer came perfect, other than the Vertex decal that was bad placed(I removed it anyway). Skimmer construction it's on par with the Octo Extreme 200, very good. More updates as it breaks in more. __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/06/2009, 02:21 PM	#615
newmoon Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: N. Miami Beach Posts: 1,622	And for the IN 180 users, where are you leaving the water level inside the skimmer? __________________ "But you have heard of me."

01/06/2009, 02:28 PM	#616
ecoreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pottstown, PA Posts: 100	newmoon -I'd love to hear a head-to-head of the Vertex 180 vs the Extreme 200. I was between these two skimmers and went with the Vertex due to the sale. Hopefully you can do a quick write-up with after a while with some honest hands-on feedback.

01/06/2009, 03:50 PM	#617
tangtang clown Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: The DUB, NC Posts: 2,711	I would put Newmoons skimmer pics up against any model Vertex. Not that his would win, but I would like to see some good skimmate pics from the Vertex. Moon, please post some pics after you get it setup. Are you putting the Vertex on the same system you had the 200 on? __________________ Mind over chatter.

01/06/2009, 04:41 PM	#618
JACOXVIII Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KC MO Posts: 248	the crazing looks to be a reaction from the Styrofoam packing

01/06/2009, 05:33 PM	#619
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	i'm running my 180 in 8" deep water, nice and quiet on thing i hear i my return pump which is mag 18 it has a nice hum to it. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies

01/06/2009, 05:37 PM	#620
frenchie Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,730	definitely have PA send you a new one cause it might work just fine but would hate to see the cup have some kind of flaw and crack and break so i would get another just to be safe. __________________ Darrick slash member 24 gallon nano cube, LED lights, zoanthids, shrooms Current Tank Info: 93 gallon cube, ecotech LED, swc 160 cone skimmer, lots of softies