I Spy 3 -- More Refinements - Page 25

israelnajar · 02/07/2009, 12:42 PM

Well we know it is an invert of some sort. It isnt a shrimp or lobster since those have exoskeletons. It isnt an anemone or snail since you said it grows its own shell and snails have a foot. it isnt a type of crab since you said it grows its own shell. And you said its not a fish.

Does it have legs?

israelnajar · 02/07/2009, 12:49 PM

Is it reef safe?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Does it have legs?

No.

Quote:

Is it reef safe?

No!

Whys · 02/07/2009, 12:55 PM

Recap

Riddle: common name & genus.

Clue: none.

Is it a fish? No.

Is it a coral? No.

Does it photosynthesize? No.

Does it have a foot? No.

Does it filter feed? No.

Does it have an exoskeleton? No.

Is it a snail? No.

Is it a type of clam? No.

Is it a type of scallop? No.

Is it a bivalve of some sort? No.

Does it have stinging cells? No.

(hints)
--------------------

Is it sessile? Not always.

Is it free floating? Not always.

Is it commonly found in most tanks?
Yes, but not always.

Is it commonly a hitch hiker? Yes.

Does it grow its own shell? Yes.

Does its shell have two parts?
Only when broken.

Can you buy it in an LFS?. Not intentionally.

Is it sometimes used as a food source? Never.

Clue: You should all know what this is.

--------------------

It is alive.

Is it a host to something? Does it host something?
No and No.

When it is in the ocean does it grow on the hulls of ships? No.

Does it have legs? No.

Is it reef safe? No!

israelnajar · 02/07/2009, 01:07 PM

Is it's max size smaller than 1 inch?

Is it's max size larger than 1 inch?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by israelnajar
Is it's max size smaller than 1 inch?

Yes.

Quote:

Is it's max size larger than 1 inch?

No.

israelnajar · 02/07/2009, 01:22 PM

Does it have a segmented body?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by israelnajar
Does it have a segmented body?

No.

jenglish · 02/07/2009, 02:15 PM

is it a barnacle?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jenglish
is it a barnacle?

No.

jenglish · 02/07/2009, 02:34 PM

is it a type of worm?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jenglish
is it a type of worm?

No.

Whys · 02/07/2009, 05:38 PM

Recap

Riddle: common name & genus.

Clue: none.

Is it a fish? No.

Is it a coral? No.

Does it photosynthesize? No.

Does it have a foot? No.

Does it filter feed? No.

Does it have an exoskeleton? No.

Is it a snail? No.

Is it a type of clam? No.

Is it a type of scallop? No.

Is it a bivalve of some sort? No.

Does it have stinging cells? No.

Does it grow its own shell? Yes.

Does its shell have two parts?
Only when broken. (hint)

Is it sessile? Not always. (hint)

Is it free floating? Not always. (hint)

Is it commonly found in most tanks?
Yes, but not always. (hint)

Is it commonly a hitch hiker? Yes. (hint)

Can you buy it in an LFS?. Not intentionally. (hint)

Is it sometimes used as a food source? Never. (hint)

Is it a host to something? Does it host something?
No and No.

When it is in the ocean does it grow on the hulls of ships? No.

Does it have legs? No.

Is it reef safe? No! (hint)

Is it's max size smaller than 1 inch? Yes.

Is it's max size larger than 1 inch? No.

Does it have a segmented body? No.

Is it a barnacle? No.

Is it a type of worm? No.

Clue: You should all know what this is.

(hint)

israelnajar · 02/07/2009, 06:08 PM

Is it a parasite?

Whys · 02/07/2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by israelnajar
Is it a parasite?

Yep.

Packersfan21 · 02/07/2009, 09:48 PM

Is it ich?

http://www.reeftime.com/images/ich-tang.jpg

Packersfan21 · 02/07/2009, 09:51 PM

I'm probably wrong.

Whys · 02/08/2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Packersfan21
Is it ich?

http://www.reeftime.com/images/ich-tang.jpg

Packersfan, I need the genus as well as the common name. Also, a better photo would be prefered.

Packersfan21 · 02/08/2009, 10:00 AM

Ich
Ichthyophthirius multifilis

http://www.chucksaddiction.com/podparasite.jpg

Whys · 02/08/2009, 10:28 AM

Packersfan, I do not have access to that imagine. It says it Forbidden. What kind of image are you trying to use...

Whys · 02/08/2009, 10:40 AM

In any event, you are CORRECT!

Ich / Ichthyophthirius multifiliis <---( 4 'i's, don't know whys. )

Ich lives in most aquariums. Believe it! Fish have natural defenses that keep them safe from the parasite, but when fish become stressed, their natural defenses become compromised and the parasite can take hold. Once this happens an outbreak will occure and even your healthy fish become vulnerable.

Ich is a protazoan parasite with a 3-stage life-cycle. For two of these cycles, the Ich parasite lives within a hard shell and is thus immune to treatment. It is only in its free-floating stage that it is vulnerable to medications. It is important to understand this when treating an outbreak.

Illustration below.

http://parasitology.informatik.uni-w...e14235.png.php

Here is some good additonal information.
http://www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/prof...water/ich.html

Packersfan21 · 02/08/2009, 10:46 AM

Cool, didn't think I got it right. I tried the link and it said fobidden for me too. Not sure why though...

Whys · 02/08/2009, 10:50 AM

+2 to Packersfan for the correct answer.
24 hours for the 1 point steal.

This is the photo for purposes of a steal.
http://www.reeftime.com/images/ich-tang.jpg

Packersfan, do you wish to riddle?

jenglish · 02/08/2009, 12:13 PM

The pic and genus name you provided are for FW ich. SW ich is cryptocarran irritans, which is what the link to Chuck's website is but it shows forbidden to me as well atm

crypto has a 4 stage life cycle if I remember right.

Whys · 02/08/2009, 01:07 PM

jenglish, thank you for this important clarification. I did not realize there is a difference, but you are right. I chose a freshwater species for my riddle. My bad!

There seems to be a great deal of similarity between them, life-cycle included, but I'm wondering if you could clarify one thing regarding the information I've given. Does the marine variety of ick live in most aquariums without outbreaks, or just the fresh variety?

Thanks again for your help.

Packersfan has not responded. Does anyone else wish to riddle?

02/07/2009, 12:42 PM	#601
israelnajar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 5000 Feet Posts: 1,007	Well we know it is an invert of some sort. It isnt a shrimp or lobster since those have exoskeletons. It isnt an anemone or snail since you said it grows its own shell and snails have a foot. it isnt a type of crab since you said it grows its own shell. And you said its not a fish. Does it have legs? __________________ I would never do such a thing unless you would already have been going to do that!

02/07/2009, 12:49 PM	#602
israelnajar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 5000 Feet Posts: 1,007	Is it reef safe? __________________ I would never do such a thing unless you would already have been going to do that!

02/07/2009, 01:07 PM	#605
israelnajar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 5000 Feet Posts: 1,007	Is it's max size smaller than 1 inch? Is it's max size larger than 1 inch? __________________ I would never do such a thing unless you would already have been going to do that!

02/07/2009, 01:22 PM	#607
israelnajar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 5000 Feet Posts: 1,007	Does it have a segmented body? __________________ I would never do such a thing unless you would already have been going to do that!

02/07/2009, 02:15 PM	#609
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	is it a barnacle? __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

02/07/2009, 12:55 PM	#604
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	Recap Riddle: common name & genus. Clue: none. Is it a fish? No. Is it a coral? No. Does it photosynthesize? No. Does it have a foot? No. Does it filter feed? No. Does it have an exoskeleton? No. Is it a snail? No. Is it a type of clam? No. Is it a type of scallop? No. Is it a bivalve of some sort? No. Does it have stinging cells? No. (hints) -------------------- Is it sessile? Not always. Is it free floating? Not always. Is it commonly found in most tanks? Yes, but not always. Is it commonly a hitch hiker? Yes. Does it grow its own shell? Yes. Does its shell have two parts? Only when broken. Can you buy it in an LFS?. Not intentionally. Is it sometimes used as a food source? Never. Clue: You should all know what this is. -------------------- It is alive. Is it a host to something? Does it host something? No and No. When it is in the ocean does it grow on the hulls of ships? No. Does it have legs? No. Is it reef safe? No!

02/07/2009, 02:34 PM	#611
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	is it a type of worm? __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

02/07/2009, 05:38 PM	#613
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	Recap Riddle: common name & genus. Clue: none. Is it a fish? No. Is it a coral? No. Does it photosynthesize? No. Does it have a foot? No. Does it filter feed? No. Does it have an exoskeleton? No. Is it a snail? No. Is it a type of clam? No. Is it a type of scallop? No. Is it a bivalve of some sort? No. Does it have stinging cells? No. Does it grow its own shell? Yes. Does its shell have two parts? Only when broken. (hint) Is it sessile? Not always. (hint) Is it free floating? Not always. (hint) Is it commonly found in most tanks? Yes, but not always. (hint) Is it commonly a hitch hiker? Yes. (hint) Can you buy it in an LFS?. Not intentionally. (hint) Is it sometimes used as a food source? Never. (hint) Is it a host to something? Does it host something? No and No. When it is in the ocean does it grow on the hulls of ships? No. Does it have legs? No. Is it reef safe? No! (hint) Is it's max size smaller than 1 inch? Yes. Is it's max size larger than 1 inch? No. Does it have a segmented body? No. Is it a barnacle? No. Is it a type of worm? No. Clue: You should all know what this is. (hint)

02/07/2009, 06:08 PM	#614
israelnajar Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 5000 Feet Posts: 1,007	Is it a parasite? __________________ I would never do such a thing unless you would already have been going to do that!

02/07/2009, 09:48 PM	#616
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Is it ich? http://www.reeftime.com/images/ich-tang.jpg __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

02/07/2009, 09:51 PM	#617
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	I'm probably wrong. __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

02/08/2009, 10:00 AM	#619
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Ich Ichthyophthirius multifilis http://www.chucksaddiction.com/podparasite.jpg __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

02/08/2009, 10:28 AM	#620
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	Packersfan, I do not have access to that imagine. It says it Forbidden. What kind of image are you trying to use...

02/08/2009, 10:40 AM	#621
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	In any event, you are CORRECT! Ich / Ichthyophthirius multifiliis <---( 4 'i's, don't know whys. ) Ich lives in most aquariums. Believe it! Fish have natural defenses that keep them safe from the parasite, but when fish become stressed, their natural defenses become compromised and the parasite can take hold. Once this happens an outbreak will occure and even your healthy fish become vulnerable. Ich is a protazoan parasite with a 3-stage life-cycle. For two of these cycles, the Ich parasite lives within a hard shell and is thus immune to treatment. It is only in its free-floating stage that it is vulnerable to medications. It is important to understand this when treating an outbreak. Illustration below. http://parasitology.informatik.uni-w...e14235.png.php Here is some good additonal information. http://www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/prof...water/ich.html Last edited by Whys; 02/08/2009 at 10:48 AM.

02/08/2009, 10:46 AM	#622
Packersfan21 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wabash, IN Posts: 920	Cool, didn't think I got it right. I tried the link and it said fobidden for me too. Not sure why though... __________________ 90 gallon reef: 1 black ocellaris clown, 1 kole tang, 1 hippo tang, 1 mimic tang,1 leopard wrasse, 1 chromis, 75 gallon FOWLR: 1 blue-spotted puffer, 1 flame angel, 1 snowflake eel Current Tank Info: 90 gallon reef and 75 gallon FOWLR

02/08/2009, 10:50 AM	#623
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	+2 to Packersfan for the correct answer. 24 hours for the 1 point steal. This is the photo for purposes of a steal. http://www.reeftime.com/images/ich-tang.jpg Packersfan, do you wish to riddle?

02/08/2009, 12:13 PM	#624
jenglish Marquis de Carabas Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,523	The pic and genus name you provided are for FW ich. SW ich is cryptocarran irritans, which is what the link to Chuck's website is but it shows forbidden to me as well atm crypto has a 4 stage life cycle if I remember right. __________________ Jeremy Brown liquor never hurt anybody “Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse" Pierre-Simon Laplace I should want to cook him a simple meal, but I shouldn't want to cut into him, to tear the flesh, to wear the flesh, to be born unto new worlds where his flesh becomes my key. Current Tank Info: broken and dry

02/08/2009, 01:07 PM	#625
Whys Moved On Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 3,263	jenglish, thank you for this important clarification. I did not realize there is a difference, but you are right. I chose a freshwater species for my riddle. My bad! There seems to be a great deal of similarity between them, life-cycle included, but I'm wondering if you could clarify one thing regarding the information I've given. Does the marine variety of ick live in most aquariums without outbreaks, or just the fresh variety? Thanks again for your help. Packersfan has not responded. Does anyone else wish to riddle? Last edited by Whys; 02/08/2009 at 01:38 PM.