EuroReef Club - Page 25

bigB · 10/15/2005, 03:45 AM

heres my ER. just had to put my pic in

rm41400 · 10/15/2005, 09:36 AM

Thanks for the reply!

That is exactly my question though.... You said

Quote:

Originally posted by dragon_slayer
heck yeah you'll get more skimming ability.

kc

In theory, should I just get more skimming ability or will I actually get more skimmate? I originally thought my 8-2 would be nice overkill.....

To over exagerate my question. If I put the 8-2 and the 12-1 (recirc model) on a nano each seperatly and for one week wont they both pull out the same amount of gunk? They both should pull out 100% of all the gunk a skimmer could pull out from that tank because they are both overated for the nano. The 12-1 may have more headroom.

Does my question make since? If my 8-2 pulls out 12oz of dark green skimate in about a week from my 120 now, do you think the 12-1 would pull out much more? At some point there should be diminishing return.

NewSchool04 · 10/15/2005, 02:29 PM

1 year anniversary! This is 3 days of skimmate, I love this skimmer!

deputydog95 · 10/15/2005, 03:59 PM

wow, three days. you must have a really skanky 75 gallon tank

ease up on the feeding there chief

NewSchool04 · 10/15/2005, 04:17 PM

Ha! The only thing skanky about my tank is my Roman Columns!

deputydog95 · 10/15/2005, 04:20 PM

where's the pirates' chest?

NewSchool04 · 10/15/2005, 04:24 PM

in the Nano!

dragon_slayer · 10/15/2005, 06:26 PM

rm41400

i fully understand your question that is why i worded my answer the way i did. to be a little more technical the 12-1 will remove the 'gunk' faster. it may not pull more on undersized systems but would be more efficient at doing it, that is why i went with a 12-2 on my 180g rather then an 8-4.

to oversimplify, your current skimmer is pulling 1 qt of skimmate per week, the 12-1 would pull that same amount out in about 1/2 to 2/3 the time. you'll always have something in the tank to pull out so the larger skimmer will give you better water quality and i don't think you'll ever get into the diminishing return.

kc

rm41400 · 10/15/2005, 07:34 PM

NIce tank newschool!

Thanks for the response Dragon. Do you have the recirc model? Any pics?

dragon_slayer · 10/15/2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rm41400
Thanks for the response Dragon. Do you have the recirc model? Any pics?

RC modded 12-2, on the page just prior to this one.................guess you just hit the last page of this thread and haven't been keeping up huh?

kc

rm41400 · 10/15/2005, 08:22 PM

dohh! sorry. and yes. I read the first 10-12 pages

NewSchool04 · 10/15/2005, 10:13 PM

Thanks rm41400!

chadfarmer · 10/19/2005, 07:23 PM

looking for the diy recirculating mod for a es5-2

currecntly running 2 of them in my 58 and want to make one recirculating wow lots of pages and maybe i missed how to do this to thi skimmer (size of uniseals a plus)

Jim_S · 10/19/2005, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chadfarmer
looking for the diy recirculating mod for a es5-2

currecntly running 2 of them in my 58 and want to make one recirculating wow lots of pages and maybe i missed how to do this to thi skimmer (size of uniseals a plus)

Check out the ER forum.

Lunchbucket · 10/19/2005, 08:09 PM

chad - why your running two on a 58gal??? one should do the job fine IMO

Lunchbucket

rm41400 · 10/19/2005, 09:09 PM

I love your saying-

"Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter"

I always feel that way when my wife goes walking but dont want to discourage her. lol. I think maybe that backfires though because the cake never bakes. FYI she is in preaty good shape though.

O back to the thread.

Sorry

chadfarmer · 10/19/2005, 09:11 PM

Check out the ER forum (did he wants 250.00 for it)i dont need a new pump

i am running 2 because i dont like to clean out the skimmer every few days with 2 when one gets a little gunk on the riser tube the 2 one takes over and takes the slack of the first one

i want to know what size uniseals i would need withe the same pump and how to get gate valves on them

Lunchbucket · 10/19/2005, 10:09 PM

rm - thanks!! i made that up and think it is true and clever

Lunchbucket

dragon_slayer · 10/19/2005, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by chadfarmer
Check out the ER forum (did he wants 250.00 for it)i dont need a new pump

if you'd have looked through the threads you'd have found many with detailed pics and everything your asking for here.........as well as in earlier pages of this thread which is why i directed you to it from your original thread.........guess your laziness goes deeper then just not cleaning a skimmer.

i want to know what size uniseals i would need withe the same pump and how to get gate valves on them

you have your occupation listed as a 'Jack of All Trades' and you can't measure a simple little flex tank adapter?? come on guy do a little work for yourself here.

kc

chadfarmer · 10/20/2005, 04:20 PM

135 pages i must be lazy then

chadfarmer · 10/20/2005, 04:20 PM

thanks any ways

dragon_slayer · 10/20/2005, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chadfarmer
135 pages i must be lazy then

you bet you are, i just looked myself and found 20+ threads there in less then 1 min, there are several on the first page.

kc

drock59 · 11/06/2005, 07:38 PM

Check out this simple mod...

I added a gate valve mod about a month ago and while installing it i had a thought.

When the water is pumped into the skimmer it shoots straight across the skimmer tube and hits the other side.

I added a 90 elbow to the pipe on the skimmer body so the water shoots straight down, right on top of the water exit pipe. The skimmer column is nearly filled with bubbles as apposed to about half full.

From what i have read skimming really comes down to the amount of air you're pumping into the water and contact time. This adjust LOOKS like it provides a lot more contact time.

My question is, have you ever tested such a mod or have any experience with it?

sjm817 · 11/06/2005, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drock59
Check out this simple mod...

I added a gate valve mod about a month ago and while installing it i had a thought.

When the water is pumped into the skimmer it shoots straight across the skimmer tube and hits the other side.

I added a 90 elbow to the pipe on the skimmer body so the water shoots straight down, right on top of the water exit pipe. The skimmer column is nearly filled with bubbles as apposed to about half full.

From what i have read skimming really comes down to the amount of air you're pumping into the water and contact time. This adjust LOOKS like it provides a lot more contact time.

My question is, have you ever tested such a mod or have any experience with it?

I tried that with my ASM G2, but used a 45. Like you said, bubbles went all the way to the bottom, but oddly enough, skimmer performance decreased. Dont know why. Turbulence??

drock59 · 11/06/2005, 08:05 PM

hmmm, ive had it on there for at least two weeks and performance is about the same.

I posted in the ER forum, so hopefully they will get back to me with a difinitive answer.

10/15/2005, 02:29 PM	#603
NewSchool04 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Go Bears! Posts: 7,629	1 year anniversary! This is 3 days of skimmate, I love this skimmer! __________________ 180 w/ Tek 8 bulb T5 fixture 2 6105 Tunze w/ 7095 controller Tunze Wave Box

10/15/2005, 03:59 PM	#604
deputydog95 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 966	wow, three days. you must have a really skanky 75 gallon tank ease up on the feeding there chief __________________ Red Sea Reefer 500 Peninsula, Apex Controller, Apex Wav (2), Apex DOS, Kessil 360WE (3), T5's (4), Kessil H160 Fuge light, RO Regal 150SSS Skimmer, RO DC Return Pump, Red Sea A&B

10/15/2005, 04:17 PM	#605
NewSchool04 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Go Bears! Posts: 7,629	Ha! The only thing skanky about my tank is my Roman Columns! __________________ 180 w/ Tek 8 bulb T5 fixture 2 6105 Tunze w/ 7095 controller Tunze Wave Box

10/15/2005, 04:20 PM	#606
deputydog95 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 966	where's the pirates' chest? __________________ Red Sea Reefer 500 Peninsula, Apex Controller, Apex Wav (2), Apex DOS, Kessil 360WE (3), T5's (4), Kessil H160 Fuge light, RO Regal 150SSS Skimmer, RO DC Return Pump, Red Sea A&B

10/15/2005, 04:24 PM	#607
NewSchool04 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Go Bears! Posts: 7,629	in the Nano! __________________ 180 w/ Tek 8 bulb T5 fixture 2 6105 Tunze w/ 7095 controller Tunze Wave Box

10/15/2005, 03:45 AM	#601
bigB Frag Farmer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 491	heres my ER. just had to put my pic in

10/15/2005, 06:26 PM	#608
dragon_slayer Moved On Join Date: May 2003 Location: South East Alabama Posts: 7,853	rm41400 i fully understand your question that is why i worded my answer the way i did. to be a little more technical the 12-1 will remove the 'gunk' faster. it may not pull more on undersized systems but would be more efficient at doing it, that is why i went with a 12-2 on my 180g rather then an 8-4. to oversimplify, your current skimmer is pulling 1 qt of skimmate per week, the 12-1 would pull that same amount out in about 1/2 to 2/3 the time. you'll always have something in the tank to pull out so the larger skimmer will give you better water quality and i don't think you'll ever get into the diminishing return. kc

10/15/2005, 07:34 PM	#609
rm41400 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cookeville,TN Posts: 469	NIce tank newschool! Thanks for the response Dragon. Do you have the recirc model? Any pics?

10/15/2005, 08:22 PM	#611
rm41400 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cookeville,TN Posts: 469	dohh! sorry. and yes. I read the first 10-12 pages

10/15/2005, 10:13 PM	#612
NewSchool04 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Go Bears! Posts: 7,629	Thanks rm41400! __________________ 180 w/ Tek 8 bulb T5 fixture 2 6105 Tunze w/ 7095 controller Tunze Wave Box

10/19/2005, 07:23 PM	#613
chadfarmer Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ST Charles, MO far from nanook Posts: 11,045 Blog Entries: 1	looking for the diy recirculating mod for a es5-2 currecntly running 2 of them in my 58 and want to make one recirculating wow lots of pages and maybe i missed how to do this to thi skimmer (size of uniseals a plus) __________________ If you think you know the answer than ask 3 more people the question Current Tank Info: 200 Gal RR,ATB medium, 4 AI blue sol,230 LBS LIVE ROCK, no sand , 40 GAL sump, airstar1800, 3 tunze 6105 1- 6205 1-6305, Geo 818, profilux3ex with toys

10/19/2005, 08:09 PM	#615
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	chad - why your running two on a 58gal??? one should do the job fine IMO Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

10/19/2005, 09:09 PM	#616
rm41400 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cookeville,TN Posts: 469	I love your saying- "Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter" I always feel that way when my wife goes walking but dont want to discourage her. lol. I think maybe that backfires though because the cake never bakes. FYI she is in preaty good shape though. O back to the thread. Sorry

10/19/2005, 09:11 PM	#617
chadfarmer Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ST Charles, MO far from nanook Posts: 11,045 Blog Entries: 1	Check out the ER forum (did he wants 250.00 for it)i dont need a new pump i am running 2 because i dont like to clean out the skimmer every few days with 2 when one gets a little gunk on the riser tube the 2 one takes over and takes the slack of the first one i want to know what size uniseals i would need withe the same pump and how to get gate valves on them __________________ If you think you know the answer than ask 3 more people the question Current Tank Info: 200 Gal RR,ATB medium, 4 AI blue sol,230 LBS LIVE ROCK, no sand , 40 GAL sump, airstar1800, 3 tunze 6105 1- 6205 1-6305, Geo 818, profilux3ex with toys

10/19/2005, 10:09 PM	#618
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	rm - thanks!! i made that up and think it is true and clever Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

10/19/2005, 11:21 PM	#619
dragon_slayer Moved On Join Date: May 2003 Location: South East Alabama Posts: 7,853	Originally posted by chadfarmer Check out the ER forum (did he wants 250.00 for it)i dont need a new pump if you'd have looked through the threads you'd have found many with detailed pics and everything your asking for here.........as well as in earlier pages of this thread which is why i directed you to it from your original thread.........guess your laziness goes deeper then just not cleaning a skimmer. i want to know what size uniseals i would need withe the same pump and how to get gate valves on them you have your occupation listed as a 'Jack of All Trades' and you can't measure a simple little flex tank adapter?? come on guy do a little work for yourself here. kc

10/20/2005, 04:20 PM	#620
chadfarmer Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ST Charles, MO far from nanook Posts: 11,045 Blog Entries: 1	135 pages i must be lazy then __________________ If you think you know the answer than ask 3 more people the question Current Tank Info: 200 Gal RR,ATB medium, 4 AI blue sol,230 LBS LIVE ROCK, no sand , 40 GAL sump, airstar1800, 3 tunze 6105 1- 6205 1-6305, Geo 818, profilux3ex with toys

10/20/2005, 04:20 PM	#621
chadfarmer Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ST Charles, MO far from nanook Posts: 11,045 Blog Entries: 1	thanks any ways __________________ If you think you know the answer than ask 3 more people the question Current Tank Info: 200 Gal RR,ATB medium, 4 AI blue sol,230 LBS LIVE ROCK, no sand , 40 GAL sump, airstar1800, 3 tunze 6105 1- 6205 1-6305, Geo 818, profilux3ex with toys

11/06/2005, 07:38 PM	#623
drock59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 3,802	Check out this simple mod... I added a gate valve mod about a month ago and while installing it i had a thought. When the water is pumped into the skimmer it shoots straight across the skimmer tube and hits the other side. I added a 90 elbow to the pipe on the skimmer body so the water shoots straight down, right on top of the water exit pipe. The skimmer column is nearly filled with bubbles as apposed to about half full. From what i have read skimming really comes down to the amount of air you're pumping into the water and contact time. This adjust LOOKS like it provides a lot more contact time. My question is, have you ever tested such a mod or have any experience with it? __________________ Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 93g Marineland cube. SPS dominated. Vortech mp40. 2 x AI sol super blues. SRO 2000 int skimmer. Mag 18 return. Korallin 1500 calcium reactor.

11/06/2005, 08:05 PM	#625
drock59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Corvallis, OR Posts: 3,802	hmmm, ive had it on there for at least two weeks and performance is about the same. I posted in the ER forum, so hopefully they will get back to me with a difinitive answer. __________________ Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. Mark Twain Current Tank Info: 93g Marineland cube. SPS dominated. Vortech mp40. 2 x AI sol super blues. SRO 2000 int skimmer. Mag 18 return. Korallin 1500 calcium reactor.