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Unread 05/30/2013, 05:48 PM   #6426
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Well I've spent time going through fish and getting ideas of what I'm going to want. This is a preliminary list of fish I reall liked, the Lionfish and the cling fish being my two personal favorites from my little list. This will be on a 55 gallon tank and of course coral and the such. Break it down for me good sir.


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Fuzzy dwarf lion
Watchman goby
Sailfin Blenny
Yellow stripe cling fish
Anthias
Leopard wrasse
Cardinals

Wayyyyy down the like I would love a mandarin (who doesn't) and a reef friendly trigger. But that's ways away.



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Well I've spent time going through fish and getting ideas of what I'm going to want. This is a preliminary list of fish I reall liked, the Lionfish and the cling fish being my two personal favorites from my little list. This will be on a 55 gallon tank and of course coral and the such. Break it down for me good sir.

Unfortunately I do not provide analysis of aggressive fish tanks. Best answers can be obtained in the Aggressive Fish Forum.


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Fuzzy dwarf lion
Watchman goby
Sailfin Blenny
Yellow stripe cling fish
Anthias
Leopard wrasse
Cardinals

Wayyyyy down the like I would love a mandarin (who doesn't) and a reef friendly trigger. But that's ways away.



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Unread 05/30/2013, 07:42 PM   #6428
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Talking First Fish Purchase

38g AIO IM Nuvo
-35lbs live rock
-20lbs live sand
-RODI water with ATO
-IM midsize skimmer
-IM minimax reactor (GFO)
-filter with mechanical, phosphate and carbon sponges
-Skkye LED Dual Dimmable Light 26watt

1 Yellow Prawn Goby (first fish in)
2 Snowflake Clowns (about 2 weeks after yellow Goby)
1 Longnose Butterflyfish (might be too small of a tank for this guy)
1 Royal Gramma Basslet

Any swaps or suggestions welcome, I like colorful fish (if I wanted dull I would've done another freshwater tank)

Is this too many? Not enough?


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Other then the lion what else would be considered aggro?


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Unread 05/30/2013, 08:03 PM   #6430
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38g AIO IM Nuvo
-35lbs live rock
-20lbs live sand
-RODI water with ATO
-IM midsize skimmer
-IM minimax reactor (GFO)
-filter with mechanical, phosphate and carbon sponges
-Skkye LED Dual Dimmable Light 26watt

1 Yellow Prawn Goby (first fish in)
2 Snowflake Clowns (about 2 weeks after yellow Goby)
1 Longnose Butterflyfish (might be too small of a tank for this guy) Yes, this one get too large, otherwise, fine
1 Royal Gramma Basslet

Any swaps or suggestions welcome, I like colorful fish (if I wanted dull I would've done another freshwater tank)

Is this too many? Not enough?



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Unread 05/30/2013, 08:05 PM   #6431
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Other then the lion what else would be considered aggro?
Yes, the lion is aggressive given that it eats other fish. A cling fish is a difficult fish and would not be what I would recommend for a new to the hobby or even one moderately experienced. Anthias really need a 75 gallon tank.


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Unread 05/30/2013, 08:21 PM   #6432
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Yes, the lion is aggressive given that it eats other fish. A cling fish is a difficult fish and would not be what I would recommend for a new to the hobby or even one moderately experienced. Anthias really need a 75 gallon tank.
The Lionfish I knew about been doing heavy research on him. And thank you for the info on the other two! Very appreciated.


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Unread 05/30/2013, 11:49 PM   #6433
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Avoid Hermit Crabs???

"I would avoid hermit crabs and have a variety of snails and perhaps one fighting conch."

I read this in one of the post....why avoid hermit crabs?


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Unread 05/31/2013, 03:54 AM   #6434
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"I would avoid hermit crabs and have a variety of snails and perhaps one fighting conch."

I read this in one of the post....why avoid hermit crabs?
Because they kill snails. Have one or the other but not both.


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Unread 05/31/2013, 06:31 AM   #6435
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Let me explain a bit about what I have going on right now, currently I have a 125 gallon tank but will soon be downgrading to a 29 gallon tank and in the future I plan on having a 75 gallon tank but who knows when that would happen. What I would like to do was to get some of the fish for my 29 that I would eventually transfer it over to the 75 (all the fish i would get for the 29 will be appropriate for that tank)

So this is the plan for stocking the 29 gallon sumpless (sorry I made a similar post the other day and wanted to check the changed plan)
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) (Live Aquaria says 30 gallons but I'm hoping 29 will suffice)
Pinkbar Goby (Amblyeleotris aurora)
Gold Neon Eviota Goby (Eviota pellucida)


And this is the plan for the 75 gallon with a sump
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)
Pinkbar Goby (Amblyeleotris aurora)
Gold Neon Eviota Goby (Eviota pellucida)
Carberryi Anthias (Nemanthias carberryi)
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris)
Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loriculus)
Lemonpeel Angelfish (Centropyge flavissima)
White Tail Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus flavicauda)
Spotted Mandarin (Synchiropus picturatus)

Is this too many fish?

I plan on adding the mandarin after the refugium has online for a year.

I plan on adding both angels at the same time and as the second to last fish and adding the Tang last.

Thanks again for the help.



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Unread 05/31/2013, 07:15 AM   #6436
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Let me explain a bit about what I have going on right now, currently I have a 125 gallon tank but will soon be downgrading to a 29 gallon tank and in the future I plan on having a 75 gallon tank but who knows when that would happen. What I would like to do was to get some of the fish for my 29 that I would eventually transfer it over to the 75 (all the fish i would get for the 29 will be appropriate for that tank)

So this is the plan for stocking the 29 gallon sumpless (sorry I made a similar post the other day and wanted to check the changed plan)
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) (Live Aquaria says 30 gallons but I'm hoping 29 will suffice)
Pinkbar Goby (Amblyeleotris aurora)
Gold Neon Eviota Goby (Eviota pellucida)

Should be fine

And this is the plan for the 75 gallon with a sump
Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas)
Pinkbar Goby (Amblyeleotris aurora)
Gold Neon Eviota Goby (Eviota pellucida)
Carberryi Anthias (Nemanthias carberryi)
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus mccoskeri)
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
Diamond Watchman Goby (Valenciennea puellaris)
Flame Angelfish (Centropyge loriculus)
Lemonpeel Angelfish (Centropyge flavissima)
White Tail Bristletooth Tang (Ctenochaetus flavicauda)
Spotted Mandarin (Synchiropus picturatus)

Is this too many fish? Ok from a bioload perspective, perhaps one too many algae grazers

I plan on adding the mandarin after the refugium has online for a year.

I plan on adding both angels at the same time and as the second to last fish and adding the Tang last.

Generally, that should be ok, but with the number of grazers you would have to supplement feed with Nori

Thanks again for the help.



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Unread 05/31/2013, 12:28 PM   #6437
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Thanks, the plan is to supplement with Nori, is it just the two angels and the tang that are algae grazers or is there another one?


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Unread 05/31/2013, 02:06 PM   #6438
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Hello Snorvich! This thread finally made me register here. I've had a 10 gallon, first SW tank ever, running for over a year. No deaths but Im meticulous about it's care. Im starting a 40B to transfer everything from the 10g into there. I currently have 2 Ocellaris, 1 sixline, fire and peppermint shrimp, and several snails.

The 40B will be running an AC70 fuge mainly for pods but to supplement filtration.
AC110 for mechanical and chemical filtration
PSK-100 skimmer rated to 100g
G2 Radion
Mesh for the jumper.
40lbs medium grade substrate. Tropic Edens miniflakes mixed with their reef flakes.
25lbs live rock, I have minimalist tendencies.

Besides the 3 fish Im thinking about adding a Midas Blenny and a yellow watchman goby.

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Unread 05/31/2013, 03:23 PM   #6439
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Thanks, the plan is to supplement with Nori, is it just the two angels and the tang that are algae grazers or is there another one?
No. But grazers, by the nature of their metabolism eat constantly (and poop) so Nori is essential. With only one, the tank algae would be sufficient.


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Unread 05/31/2013, 03:24 PM   #6440
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Hello Snorvich! This thread finally made me register here. I've had a 10 gallon, first SW tank ever, running for over a year. No deaths but Im meticulous about it's care. Im starting a 40B to transfer everything from the 10g into there. I currently have 2 Ocellaris, 1 sixline, fire and peppermint shrimp, and several snails.

The 40B will be running an AC70 fuge mainly for pods but to supplement filtration.
AC110 for mechanical and chemical filtration
PSK-100 skimmer rated to 100g
G2 Radion
Mesh for the jumper.
40lbs medium grade substrate. Tropic Edens miniflakes mixed with their reef flakes.
25lbs live rock, I have minimalist tendencies.

Besides the 3 fish Im thinking about adding a Midas Blenny and a yellow watchman goby.

Thank you!
Midas Blennies tend to nip the fins of water column fish.


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Unread 05/31/2013, 03:46 PM   #6441
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Just put together a 65 g- it's going to be LPS dominated. Another 12ish gallons in the sump with a skimmer and a refugium. 3-4 inches of sand and I do have a lid.


I have 2 ocellaris clowns.

I plan to add:

tail spot blenny
5'ish yellow striped cardinals
hi-fin goby/pistol shrimp combo
helfrichi firefish if I can swing the $. purple if I can't.
hector's or rainford's goby
and something along the lines of a long-fin faery wrasse or linespot flasher wrasse

Too many gobies? Peaceful enough group?


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Just put together a 65 g- it's going to be LPS dominated. Another 12ish gallons in the sump with a skimmer and a refugium. 3-4 inches of sand and I do have a lid.


I have 2 ocellaris clowns.

I plan to add:

tail spot blenny
5'ish yellow striped cardinals
hi-fin goby/pistol shrimp combo
helfrichi firefish if I can swing the $. purple if I can't. firefish and flasher wrasses jump; 1/4 inch mesh required
hector's or rainford's goby
and something along the lines of a long-fin faery wrasse or linespot flasher wrasse flasher wrasse is a better choice because of aggression

Too many gobies? Peaceful enough group?
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Wow, you're fast- thanks for input


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Unread 06/02/2013, 07:35 PM   #6444
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Upgraded to 240G from a 90g

Steve.

I upgraded to a 240g tank with 200lbs of live rocks.

My current stock from my previous tank:
2 clownfish
1 pair cardinal fish
1 kole tang
1 blue chromis

Would like to add:
1 hippo tang
1 blonde naso
1 sailfin tang

And finally possibly a yellow tang

Would it work?

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Steve.

I upgraded to a 240g tank with 200lbs of live rocks.

My current stock from my previous tank:
2 clownfish
1 pair cardinal fish
1 kole tang
1 blue chromis

Would like to add:
1 hippo tang
1 blonde naso
1 sailfin tang

And finally possibly a yellow tang

Would it work?

What are the dimensions of the tank? The yellow tang must be last in any case. If an 8 foot tank, it will probably work.

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Unread 06/03/2013, 05:19 AM   #6446
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Dimensions of tank are 8ftx2ftx2ft


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Unread 06/03/2013, 09:41 AM   #6447
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55 Gallon with about 60 lbs of live rock and about 1 1/2" live sand. No sump. Fluval 306 for mechanical filtration, as a sump isn't an option right now. Haven't added a skimmer yet, but will before adding fish. Quad T5 lighting fixture. Not fully cycled yet, but not planning on adding fish yet anyways, testing at 0 ammonia and all other peramiters are still in check. Have a HOB aquaclear that I plan on converting to a small refugium. Plan on fish and soft corals. I'm at least 2 weeks away from adding fish.

Currently have 1 blue devil damsel on loan from LFS to help with cycling. They will take him back, or I could keep him. He's probably too aggressive in the long run.

I'm thinking of a mix that looks something like:

1 or 2 Banggai Cardinals
1 or 2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Dwarf Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny
1 Royal Gamma

And I would love a yellow tang, but I'm leaning towards thinking that a 55 isn't going to keep it happy.


As far as the CUC, I really want a couple of nice shrimp and am leaning towards hermit crabs. Any suggestions for a good CUC for this set-up?

Any other 'worker fish' I should consider?

Am I going to need a jump screen with any of these choices? They seem to get tricky when you don't have a sump and you have equipment hanging inside the tank.

This is my 1st ever saltwater set-up. I've kept freshwater fish for years, and yes, I see that this is a whole new ball game lol.



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55 Gallong Saltwater Stocking Recommendations

I’m starting up a 55 gallon marine tank initially as a FOWLR system with the intention of making it into a reef system with soft corals, mushrooms, & polyps down the road. I currently have 25lbs of Pukani + 10lbs of Fiji + 30 lbs of sand. My filtration will be a combination of a CPR bak-pak 2R hang-on-back protein skimmer and 2 power heads pushing 170 gph each.

As far as stocking I’m considering:

1 royal gramma
1 canary blenny
1 pajama cardinal
1 falco hawkfish

What do you think about the above fish with my setup? My intention was to a have a mix of methodically swimmer (pajama cardinal), active middle of the water column swimmer (canary blenny), active next to the rock swimmer (royal gramma), and a bottom swimmer with some personality (falco hawkfish).


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55 Gallon with about 60 lbs of live rock and about 1 1/2" live sand. No sump. Fluval 306 for mechanical filtration, as a sump isn't an option right now. Haven't added a skimmer yet, but will before adding fish. Quad T5 lighting fixture. Not fully cycled yet, but not planning on adding fish yet anyways, testing at 0 ammonia and all other peramiters are still in check. Have a HOB aquaclear that I plan on converting to a small refugium. Plan on fish and soft corals. I'm at least 2 weeks away from adding fish.

Currently have 1 blue devil damsel on loan from LFS to help with cycling. They will take him back, or I could keep him. He's probably too aggressive in the long run.

Yes, he is aggressive. And it is a poor way to cycle a tank; your LFS should know better.

I'm thinking of a mix that looks something like:

1 or 2 Banggai Cardinals for two, must be a male plus female and for best odds of success, tank bred
1 or 2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Dwarf Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny
1 Royal Gamma

And I would love a yellow tang, but I'm leaning towards thinking that a 55 isn't going to keep it happy.

That is correct, your tank is not larghe enough


As far as the CUC, I really want a couple of nice shrimp and am leaning towards hermit crabs. Any suggestions for a good CUC for this set-up?

Any other 'worker fish' I should consider?

Am I going to need a jump screen with any of these choices? They seem to get tricky when you don't have a sump and you have equipment hanging inside the tank.

While all fish can jump, your selection does not have a propensity for jumping.

This is my 1st ever saltwater set-up. I've kept freshwater fish for years, and yes, I see that this is a whole new ball game lol.



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I’m starting up a 55 gallon marine tank initially as a FOWLR system with the intention of making it into a reef system with soft corals, mushrooms, & polyps down the road. I currently have 25lbs of Pukani + 10lbs of Fiji + 30 lbs of sand. My filtration will be a combination of a CPR bak-pak 2R hang-on-back protein skimmer and 2 power heads pushing 170 gph each.

As far as stocking I’m considering:

1 royal gramma
1 canary blenny
1 pajama cardinal
1 falco hawkfish not shrimp safe

What do you think about the above fish with my setup?

No problem except as noted

My intention was to a have a mix of methodically swimmer (pajama cardinal), active middle of the water column swimmer (canary blenny), active next to the rock swimmer (royal gramma), and a bottom swimmer with some personality (falco hawkfish).



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