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[MHG]

I am setting up a 25 gallon rimless frag tank. I want some fish in there to keep my nitrates up and to control algae, possibly pests. I am concerned about jumpers....

My original thoughts was a pair of ocillaris clowns and a lawn mower blenny... I don't recall either as being big jumpers... I was going to do a wrasse but I believe they are jumpers. Any other suggestions?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by MHG

I am setting up a 25 gallon rimless frag tank. I want some fish in there to keep my nitrates up and to control algae, possibly pests. I am concerned about jumpers....

My original thoughts was a pair of ocillaris clowns and a lawn mower blenny... I don't recall either as being big jumpers...

While any fish can jump these are not considered prolific jumpers

I was going to do a wrasse but I believe they are jumpers. Any other suggestions?

[Smithbrother88]

Hello all I'm brand new to the hobby and to the forum. Had a 55gal freshwater but it wasn't involved enough for me. So in the past month I've rebuilt the stand to support a fuge. Done tons and tons of reading. Upgraded to a 75 gal. 20gal sump. Cpr90 overflow box. Reef octopus nwb110 skimmer. Aquatic life 3700L pump. 48" 4x54w t5 lights 2 actinic. 2 10000k. Everything is plumbed and running tap right now for wet test and consistency. Soo... I plan on running 100lbs of live rock. 100lbs sand for a 3" sand bed. I plan to keep coral probably easy beginner stuff. But fish I'm thinking 2 clowns, 1 yellow Hawaii tang,1 blue tang, 2 carpenters flasher wrasse, 1 blue spotted puffer (optional), and 2 kauderns cardinal fish....also random snails.... Any ideas, advice, suggestions, help? Thank you in advance..

[snorvich]

For some reason I am unable to quote your post. However, your tank is not large enough for a pair of flasher wrasses, the tang you are looking at, or any type of puffer.

[Smithbrother88]

Originally Posted by snorvich

For some reason I am unable to quote your post. However, your tank is not large enough for a pair of flasher wrasses, the tang you are looking at, or any type of puffer.

Thank you that's good to know. What are your opinions of my setup? Does it look I'm on the right track as far as that goes?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Smithbrother88

Thank you that's good to know. What are your opinions of my setup? Does it look I'm on the right track as far as that goes?

This thread is different than virtually all others (sorry about the pun) because it is only answered by Reef Central Staff and is only about Marine Fish Compatibility. Equipment and related questions can be asked in a separate thread elsewhere.

[Smithbrother88]

Originally Posted by snorvich

This thread is different than virtually all others (sorry about the pun) because it is only answered by Reef Central Staff and is only about Marine Fish Compatibility. Equipment and related questions can be asked in a separate thread elsewhere.

Alright alright alright thanks for the help on the fish

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Smithbrother88

Alright alright alright thanks for the help on the fish

Feel free to check back with any marine fish compatibility questions!

[Mrturritos]

I have a 40B that is fully cycled, skimmer rated for 75 gallons, 20 gallon sump, live rock/sand. Plan is for a soft coral tank and the following fish.

I have a glass top that covers the tank tightly but the sump has plenty of breathing room for gas exchange, if needed I can switch over to a 1/4in screen top.

2 true perc clowns
1 helfrichi fire fish
1 tail spot blenny
1 Court jester goby
1 Kaudern's Cardinal *tank bred
1 skunk cleaner shrimp

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Mrturritos

I have a 40B that is fully cycled, skimmer rated for 75 gallons, 20 gallon sump, live rock/sand. Plan is for a soft coral tank and the following fish.

I have a glass top that covers the tank tightly but the sump has plenty of breathing room for gas exchange, if needed I can switch over to a 1/4in screen top.

2 true perc clowns
1 helfrichi fire fish
1 tail spot blenny
1 Court jester goby
1 Kaudern's Cardinal *tank bred
1 skunk cleaner shrimp

should be fine

[Ciwyn]

May as well get in on the fun.

I have a 75g with 70# live rock cycling. 36gal sump, ~20gal water volume in it. Reef Octopus 150 skimmer. Planning FOWLR with maybe some hardy corals like mushrooms but I'm primarily interested in the fish.

Pair of ocelleris clowns
1 or pair of bangai cardinals
1 or pair of firefish
Red banded goby and pistol shrimp
A red lined wrasse
A saddle valentini or blue spot toby puffer
Possibly a white tail bristletooth tang or a dwarf angel
A red mandarin after the tank is well established (will have a refugium)

I'm guessing the puffer would cause problems for the shrimp so if it came between the two I'd skip the shrimp.

I'll be keeping a screen on top of the tank as well.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Ciwyn

May as well get in on the fun.

I have a 75g with 70# live rock cycling. 36gal sump, ~20gal water volume in it. Reef Octopus 150 skimmer. Planning FOWLR with maybe some hardy corals like mushrooms but I'm primarily interested in the fish.

Pair of ocelleris clowns
1 or pair of bangai cardinals tank bred for best results
1 or pair of firefish one only unless they are a bonded pair
Red banded goby and pistol shrimp
A red lined wrasse
A saddle valentini or blue spot toby puffer
Possibly a white tail bristletooth tang or a dwarf angel either will work, the dwarf angel may be a bit better
A red mandarin after the tank is well established (will have a refugium)

I'm guessing the puffer would cause problems for the shrimp so if it came between the two I'd skip the shrimp. No Problems for the pistol shrimp but for your other fish as they nip on the fins of tank mates

I'll be keeping a screen on top of the tank as well.

[Ciwyn]

Curious why you say the dwarf would be better? May help influence my decision. Yes the bonded pair for firefish and tank bred cardinals.

Guess if the puffer becomes too rambunctious I'll have to find him another home, but it is definitely a fish I would love to keep.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Ciwyn

Curious why you say the dwarf would be better? May help influence my decision. Yes the bonded pair for firefish and tank bred cardinals.

Guess if the puffer becomes to rambunctious I'll have to find him another home, but it is definitely a fish I would love to keep.

Flame angels come from a variety (primarily 3) of locations. The coloration can be incredibly brilliant. Also in your sized tank, the tank size is more than adequate whereas for any tang, it is minimal.

[Ciwyn]

That's kind of what I was suspecting. Appreciate the advice!

[brwneyedangel82]

I'm looking to get a 40 gal tank. The type of fish I'm thinking of getting is 1 firefish, 1 royal gama, 1 ocellaris clownfish 1 snowflake clownfish and 2 Gobies. Later on after being in the hobby for a while, planning to possibly get a brittle star.

Is this too many fish or any of these not compatible with the others. Thanks.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by brwneyedangel82

I'm looking to get a 40 gal tank. The type of fish I'm thinking of getting is 1 firefish, 1 royal gama, 1 ocellaris clownfish 1 snowflake clownfish and 2 Gobies. Later on after being in the hobby for a while, planning to possibly get a brittle star.

Is this too many fish or any of these not compatible with the others. Thanks.

The number is fine given all are small fish. You ave one prolific jumper so the tank must be covered with 1/4 inch mesh. Two gobies, depending on species, are unlikely to get along.

[Cloudburst2000]

Hey, I am planning either a 62g (36"Lx22"Wx18"T) or a 68.5g (40"Lx22"Wx18"T) build. It will depend on which size we think will fit in the sapce better. I would opt for the larger tank but my boyfriend thinks it might be a bit long for the space so likes the smaller one better. We are planning on having Reef Savvy build the tank either way. This tank will include a sump built by Inland Aquatics to include both an ATS and skimmer. We plan on keeping a mixed reef tank.

Anyhoo, here are some of the fish that we like. Only the first two are we dead set on. The others are negotiable.

-Peppermint Hogfish
-Pink Skunk Clownfish
-Blue Dot Jawfish
-Pikeblenny (if we can find one)
-Trio of Midget Chromis
-Starry Blenny
-Perhaps a tiny fish or two like a yellow clown goby/barnacle blenny/etc

Largely, we want to know if any of these fish will have problems co-existing with the peppermint hogfish or pink skunk clown in this size tank. We likely won't get all these fish. We just want to know which would be the best option for this tank to live with the first two fish. We are also open to other suggestions on fish that might work better with the first two fish.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Cloudburst2000

Hey, I am planning either a 62g (36"Lx22"Wx18"T) or a 68.5g (40"Lx22"Wx18"T) build. It will depend on which size we think will fit in the sapce better. I would opt for the larger tank but my boyfriend thinks it might be a bit long for the space so likes the smaller one better. We are planning on having Reef Savvy build the tank either way. This tank will include a sump built by Inland Aquatics to include both an ATS and skimmer. We plan on keeping a mixed reef tank.

Anyhoo, here are some of the fish that we like. Only the first two are we dead set on. The others are negotiable.

-Peppermint Hogfish Not invertebrate safe, otherwise, know it is a prolific jumper and you must have 1/4 inch mesh
-Pink Skunk Clownfish
-Blue Dot Jawfish superb fish but does best in cooler temperatures as it is endemic to the sea of cortez; requires a deeper sand bed mixed with fine and coarse sand as well as live rock rock rubble
-Pikeblenny (if we can find one)
-Trio of Midget Chromis
-Starry Blenny
-Perhaps a tiny fish or two like a yellow clown goby/barnacle blenny/etc

Largely, we want to know if any of these fish will have problems co-existing with the peppermint hogfish or pink skunk clown in this size tank. No, there should be no issues



We likely won't get all these fish. We just want to know which would be the best option for this tank to live with the first two fish. We are also open to other suggestions on fish that might work better with the first two fish.

[Cloudburst2000]

The blue dot jawfish is a favorite of my boyfriend's. I will let him know that they like temperate tanks better. Strange as liveaquaria.com lists it at the same temp range as the other fish. They are usually more accurate with such details. What temp do they do best at? We have been toying with the idea of doing a temperate tank in the future. I have always wanted a catalina goby And I know jawfish need a deeper sandbed but exactly how deep? Thanks!

And if we were to take the jawfish off the list, can you recommend a fish that is similar...perhaps a burrower like the jawfish that would get along with the other fish? Thanks again!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Cloudburst2000

The blue dot jawfish is a favorite of my boyfriend's. I will let him know that they like temperate tanks better.

For long term success, 72-75 F would be great.

Strange as liveaquaria.com lists it at the same temp range as the other fish. They are usually more accurate with such details. What temp do they do best at? We have been toying with the idea of doing a temperate tank in the future. I have always wanted a catalina goby

Catalina gobies require cool temperatures as they are endemic to the Pacific

And I know jawfish need a deeper sandbed but exactly how deep? Thanks!

I think 4 inches minimum. The rock rubble is also key as they use it for structure. Some people who keep BSJ create PVC homes embedded in the sand.


And if we were to take the jawfish off the list, can you recommend a fish that is similar...perhaps a burrower like the jawfish that would get along with the other fish? Thanks again!

Yellow headed jawfish would do fine at normal reef temperatures; shrimp/goby commensal pairs would do fine.

[Cloudburst2000]

Ahh...so catalina gobies require even cooler temps then a blue spot jawfish...pooh. I think catalina gobies do best around 65-67F, correct? And this temp would be too low for the jawfish.

[Cloudburst2000]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Yellow headed jawfish would do fine at normal reef temperatures; shrimp/goby commensal pairs would do fine.

Thanks for the recs. The yellow-headed jawfish is ehhh. It's okay but doesn't do much for me. I'll have to see if my boyfriend likes it. We already have a shrimp/goby pair in another tank so probably won't do this combo again.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Cloudburst2000

Ahh...so catalina gobies require even cooler temps then a blue spot jawfish...pooh. I think catalina gobies do best around 65-67F, correct? And this temp would be too low for the jawfish.

You are correct. But not optimal for the BSJ jawfish.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Cloudburst2000

Thanks for the recs. The yellow-headed jawfish is ehhh. It's okay but doesn't do much for me. I'll have to see if my boyfriend likes it. We already have a shrimp/goby pair in another tank so probably won't do this combo again.

As a diver, I can assure you that while not as pretty as BSJ, yellow-headed jawfish, especially in a colony, are pretty interesting and personable. BSJ can live short term at normal reef temperatures of 75-76 but for long term success, I suggest the cooler range.