Melev's new 280g Starfire tank thread - Page 26

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 09:47 PM

If I remember right, from what I have been told is. ER modifys there pumps. The ASM does not modify there pump. I asked in a forum the other day the same question. They said with the ER pumps you get more LPH of air.

Maybe the people in ER forum can answer that or maybe Lunchbucket, as he seems to know good info about ER. Take what I saying with a grain of salt, just passing along info I received.

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 09:49 PM

Melev,
What do you think you are getting for LPH for air now? As of now, have you noticed more skimmate?

melev · 11/01/2006, 10:38 PM

I noticed on Euro-Reef's site that they sell a device to read how many liters per minute are used. It costs $30. I don't know that I'd ever need to know that specifically.

I was told told that mine tends to draw in 6 LPH now, and that it would be more like 10 or 11 with the new modification. The tank was just fed some food, so the water quality has changed. I'll know more after about a day has passed to see how the skimmer does.

It is important to keep in mind that I had to change the output via the gate valve with the new impellars, so I can't just state 100% what the results are immediately. If you recall, the skimmer started overflowing within minutes of the upgrade, so I had to dial the skimmer back to get it back to what I'd call "normal."

Tbduval · 11/01/2006, 10:43 PM

Sounds like a good upgrade. Now just maybe, if we are lucky, we can get Tucker back in there!!!

J/K. Thanks Melev, as always your website and thread provides great knowledge for us reefers out there.

original-reefland · 11/01/2006, 10:46 PM

Melev - how much did the new needle wheels cost?

melev · 11/01/2006, 11:28 PM

They cost $49 each. I put the links in my first post to the ones I got.

Lunchbucket · 11/02/2006, 08:15 AM

very cool marc. i hope to see what the new impellers do for you. i'm awaiting the new eheim 1250 for my RC80 w/ the new impeller on it. hope they come out soon

Tbduval - i don't know how ER mods the pumps...i don't think anyone but ER knows. just like Deltec and H&S they do not tell how them mod their pumps. it is a company secret. as it should be.

Lunchbucket

jeffbrig · 11/02/2006, 10:33 AM

Hey lunch, is there a thread somewhere of people testing those new eheim pumps? Very interested to see how those turn out.

dcombs44 · 11/02/2006, 11:16 AM

OT: Melev, do you have any experience with using quiet one pumps externally? I'm planning on turning my 6000 from a return to an over the top closed loop setup similar to yours except using an ocean's motion.

gkarshens · 11/02/2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcombs44
OT: Melev, do you have any experience with using quiet one pumps externally? I'm planning on turning my 6000 from a return to an over the top closed loop setup similar to yours except using an ocean's motion.

I have been using a Quiet one pump on my closed loop through a SCWD for over a year now with no problems.

melev · 11/02/2006, 01:36 PM

No, I've never owned a Quiet One pump. I've seen a couple and they feel kind of cheap to me. I don't know how they'd hold up, but then again that is based on nothing solid. Is it advertised to run externally as an option? The Mag pump is not, but I did it anyway for over 2 years.

melev · 11/02/2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkarshens
I have been using a Quiet one pump on my closed loop through a SCWD for over a year now with no problems.

Well, there you go.

dcombs44 · 11/02/2006, 02:23 PM

Yeah.....it's stated on the box that it supposedly can be used externally and has some sort of feature that helps cool it while internally or externally used.

gkarshens: thanks for the tip. In that case, I'll probably give it a whirl.

melev · 11/02/2006, 02:59 PM

Please let us know how it works for you.

mbetz · 11/02/2006, 03:01 PM

Marc,

How do you like the 10,000k Reeflux MH bulbs that you have over your tank?

melev · 11/02/2006, 03:02 PM

I have no complaints. They really look good to me.

dcombs44 · 11/02/2006, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Please let us know how it works for you.

I'll be sure to check back. I've got to order the OM first. I didn't know what size to get until I decided what pump I was going to use. Thanks for the advice folks.

Lordhelmet · 11/02/2006, 06:35 PM

My bro has a quiet one for his return on his 29 that wouldn't restart this week. it's only about 8 months old. he finally got it to start but will be replacing to a MAG ASAP.

dcombs44 · 11/02/2006, 08:42 PM

Weird. I've heard of quite a few people that use them, but have never heard of that problem. The biggest complaint I've heard about them is that there is more head loss than advertised. I've had no problems with the pump restarting when it's unplugged, but that will be something I keep my eye on. Of course if it doesn't start the next time that will give me a reason to buy a true external

Lunchbucket · 11/02/2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeffbrig
Hey lunch, is there a thread somewhere of people testing those new eheim pumps? Very interested to see how those turn out.

ask you you shall recieve

Lunchbucket

jnarowe · 11/02/2006, 10:07 PM

I use a Quiet One on my SW mixing tank. It cycles on for 15 minutes 4 x per day and it has been great. No problems whatsoever. It does double duty and removes water from my sump during water changes.

Snakebyt · 11/03/2006, 11:03 AM

i have been using a Quiet One 4000 as a return on my reef for over a year and i have had no problems with it

dcombs44 · 11/03/2006, 01:04 PM

Well I ordered my Ocean's Motions Super Squirt Compact today. It's coming to my parents' house next week so hopefully I'll be able to pick it up in the next 2 weeks and as soon as I get a free Saturday, I'll get things up and running, and we can see if the quiet one does the trick.

rottface4 · 11/03/2006, 07:43 PM

I used a Quite One on my closed loop and everytime I turned it off I couldn't get it restarted. It was a pain to take apart and clean. I got fed up with it and no longer have a closed loop.

melev · 11/03/2006, 09:29 PM

Shawn, you should try it with a different pump. And make sure your closed loop doesn't suck in any sand, as that can be a real issue.

11/01/2006, 10:46 PM	#630
original-reefland Reefer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: New York Posts: 2,177	Melev - how much did the new needle wheels cost? __________________ Rich Durso Visit My Chunk of the Ocean, click the Red House above. Current Tank Info: 180G Oceanic SPS/Clams/LPS, AB Aquaspace Light 3x250w AB 14K HQI with 4x24w PC Actinic, 2x80w T5, Dual Tunze 6100 and Vortec (10,000 GPH), Euro Reef RC-500 Skimmer.

11/02/2006, 08:15 AM	#632
Lunchbucket Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 12,924	very cool marc. i hope to see what the new impellers do for you. i'm awaiting the new eheim 1250 for my RC80 w/ the new impeller on it. hope they come out soon Tbduval - i don't know how ER mods the pumps...i don't think anyone but ER knows. just like Deltec and H&S they do not tell how them mod their pumps. it is a company secret. as it should be. Lunchbucket __________________ Trying to lose weight by walking is like trying to bake a cake w/ a cigarette lighter - Lunchbucket - "Nancy-Boy Extraordinaire" - maxxII- Current Tank Info: 58gal Oceanic RR, 2x400w MH (20k XM and 10k XM), Deltec PF601 Ca Rx, Deltec AP701 skimmer, mag950 return, iwaki 55rlt w/ an Oceansmotions 4-way unit, Tunze 7300 and 6000 each w/ controller, fluidized po4 rx

11/02/2006, 10:33 AM	#633
jeffbrig Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 5,548	Hey lunch, is there a thread somewhere of people testing those new eheim pumps? Very interested to see how those turn out. __________________ Beware the power of stupid people in large groups..... Current Tank Info: formerly 250g room divider

11/02/2006, 11:16 AM	#634
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	OT: Melev, do you have any experience with using quiet one pumps externally? I'm planning on turning my 6000 from a return to an over the top closed loop setup similar to yours except using an ocean's motion. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

11/02/2006, 02:23 PM	#638
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	Yeah.....it's stated on the box that it supposedly can be used externally and has some sort of feature that helps cool it while internally or externally used. gkarshens: thanks for the tip. In that case, I'll probably give it a whirl. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

11/01/2006, 09:47 PM	#626
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	If I remember right, from what I have been told is. ER modifys there pumps. The ASM does not modify there pump. I asked in a forum the other day the same question. They said with the ER pumps you get more LPH of air. Maybe the people in ER forum can answer that or maybe Lunchbucket, as he seems to know good info about ER. Take what I saying with a grain of salt, just passing along info I received.

11/01/2006, 09:49 PM	#627
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	Melev, What do you think you are getting for LPH for air now? As of now, have you noticed more skimmate?

11/01/2006, 10:38 PM	#628
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I noticed on Euro-Reef's site that they sell a device to read how many liters per minute are used. It costs $30. I don't know that I'd ever need to know that specifically. I was told told that mine tends to draw in 6 LPH now, and that it would be more like 10 or 11 with the new modification. The tank was just fed some food, so the water quality has changed. I'll know more after about a day has passed to see how the skimmer does. It is important to keep in mind that I had to change the output via the gate valve with the new impellars, so I can't just state 100% what the results are immediately. If you recall, the skimmer started overflowing within minutes of the upgrade, so I had to dial the skimmer back to get it back to what I'd call "normal."

11/01/2006, 10:43 PM	#629
Tbduval Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 369	Sounds like a good upgrade. Now just maybe, if we are lucky, we can get Tucker back in there!!! J/K. Thanks Melev, as always your website and thread provides great knowledge for us reefers out there.

11/01/2006, 11:28 PM	#631
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	They cost $49 each. I put the links in my first post to the ones I got.

11/02/2006, 01:36 PM	#636
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	No, I've never owned a Quiet One pump. I've seen a couple and they feel kind of cheap to me. I don't know how they'd hold up, but then again that is based on nothing solid. Is it advertised to run externally as an option? The Mag pump is not, but I did it anyway for over 2 years.

11/02/2006, 02:59 PM	#639
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Please let us know how it works for you.

11/02/2006, 03:01 PM	#640
mbetz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: IL Posts: 37	Marc, How do you like the 10,000k Reeflux MH bulbs that you have over your tank?

11/02/2006, 03:02 PM	#641
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	I have no complaints. They really look good to me.

11/02/2006, 06:35 PM	#643
Lordhelmet Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,008	My bro has a quiet one for his return on his 29 that wouldn't restart this week. it's only about 8 months old. he finally got it to start but will be replacing to a MAG ASAP. __________________ I need a new signiture Current Tank Info: 90 gallon, 14 gallon

11/02/2006, 08:42 PM	#644
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	Weird. I've heard of quite a few people that use them, but have never heard of that problem. The biggest complaint I've heard about them is that there is more head loss than advertised. I've had no problems with the pump restarting when it's unplugged, but that will be something I keep my eye on. Of course if it doesn't start the next time that will give me a reason to buy a true external __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

11/02/2006, 10:07 PM	#646
jnarowe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poulsbo, WA Posts: 14,710	I use a Quiet One on my SW mixing tank. It cycles on for 15 minutes 4 x per day and it has been great. No problems whatsoever. It does double duty and removes water from my sump during water changes. __________________ Jonathan--Recovering Tankaholic. Current Tank Info: 70g fresh planted

11/03/2006, 11:03 AM	#647
Snakebyt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lubbock Tx Posts: 2,141	i have been using a Quiet One 4000 as a return on my reef for over a year and i have had no problems with it

11/03/2006, 01:04 PM	#648
dcombs44 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2,913	Well I ordered my Ocean's Motions Super Squirt Compact today. It's coming to my parents' house next week so hopefully I'll be able to pick it up in the next 2 weeks and as soon as I get a free Saturday, I'll get things up and running, and we can see if the quiet one does the trick. __________________ Current Setup: 10 Gallon Skimmerless Zoanthid Tank Lighting: Single 175 Watt Metal Halide (14,000 K Hamilton Lamp) Filtration: 10 gallon sump/refugium and Phosban Reactor Return: Mag Drive 700 Controller: ReefKeeper Lite (Basic Version) Circulation: TBD Age of System: Build is in Progress

11/03/2006, 07:43 PM	#649
rottface4 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Melbourne, Fl Posts: 192	I used a Quite One on my closed loop and everytime I turned it off I couldn't get it restarted. It was a pain to take apart and clean. I got fed up with it and no longer have a closed loop. __________________ -Shawn- Current Tank Info: 45 g (30"x24"x15"), 250 w 12k reeflux in a lumenarc, 2 6025 streams, etc

11/03/2006, 09:29 PM	#650
melev Moved On Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft Worth, Tx Posts: 43,217	Shawn, you should try it with a different pump. And make sure your closed loop doesn't suck in any sand, as that can be a real issue.