Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > New to the Hobby
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Closed Thread
Thread Tools
Unread 06/28/2013, 09:18 PM   #6676
michfish5
Registered Member
 
michfish5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 167
Not exactly new to hobby but been out of it for 15 years. Reading, researching for months and now awaiting final few supplies but about to set up 65 gal. FOWLR, 50lbs Real Reef rock (to be purchased shortly), AquaMaxx HOB skimmer, AC 70 filter for extra bio and mechanical filtration, Jaebo WP25, no sump.

Setting up QT in a day or so to start that cycle with a shrimp while I continue working on the DT. Have put together basic, pretty much beginner fish list for your approval. Would like to know which fish should be first and if the rest should work ok. Other than adding the angel last, is there any specific order for the rest?

1x Midas Blenny
1x Oscellaris Clown
1x Royal Gramma
1x Cherub or Flameback Angel (looking for a bright blue fish). Add last correct?
3x Black Axil Chromis
maybe 2x Kaudern Cardinals (tank raised)? or is that too much?

I know the angel will be more aggressive than the rest but I really want something bright blue and I am trying to avoid damsels. If you can recommend something else to fit that bill, I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks so much!


michfish5 is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 05:16 AM   #6677
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by michfish5 View Post
Not exactly new to hobby but been out of it for 15 years. Reading, researching for months and now awaiting final few supplies but about to set up 65 gal. FOWLR, 50lbs Real Reef rock (to be purchased shortly), AquaMaxx HOB skimmer, AC 70 filter for extra bio and mechanical filtration, Jaebo WP25, no sump.

Setting up QT in a day or so to start that cycle with a shrimp while I continue working on the DT. Have put together basic, pretty much beginner fish list for your approval. Would like to know which fish should be first and if the rest should work ok. Other than adding the angel last, is there any specific order for the rest?

1x Midas Blenny these nip water column fish; look for a different blenny
1x Oscellaris Clown
1x Royal Gramma
1x Cherub or Flameback Angel (looking for a bright blue fish). Add last correct?
3x Black Axil Chromis
maybe 2x Kaudern Cardinals (tank raised)? or is that too much?

must be tank raised; for two, must be a male plus female

I know the angel will be more aggressive than the rest but I really want something bright blue and I am trying to avoid damsels. If you can recommend something else to fit that bill, I would appreciate your feedback. Thanks so much!



__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 01:17 PM   #6678
sarahlovesfish
Registered Member
 
sarahlovesfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: California
Posts: 330
I have a 80 gallon reeftank. I currently have a
- 1 Midas Blenny
- 1 blue green chromis
- 2 cleaner shrimp
- 1 fire shrimp
- turbo,nassarisus,conch

and my list for future fish-

- 1 fire goby (had before)
- 1 royal gramma (had before)
- 1 flasher wrasse
- 2 greenbanded gobies
- 1 bangaii cardinalfish
- 2 clownfish

could I possibly add more without overbioload, or is it good as it is?


sarahlovesfish is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 03:24 PM   #6679
CicoBuf
Registered Member
 
CicoBuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 3
I am planning to populate a 29G tank with live rock and live sand. I'll probably will have an Emperor 400 filter running and whatever light I need to grow some coral and an Ocellaris Clownfish. What other livestock additions should I consider?


__________________
3 gallon betta cube
10 gallon planted community
30 gallon marine (planning/ question asking stages)

Current Tank Info: 3 gallon betta; 10 gallon planted, 3 neons, 2 plattys, 1 angel, 1 redtail shark
CicoBuf is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 04:03 PM   #6680
michfish5
Registered Member
 
michfish5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 167
Thank you for your reply. Taking another stab at my list for the 65 gallon FOWLR:

3x Blue Reef Chromis
1x Oscellaris Clown (tank raised) or would a pair be better?
1x Royal Gramma
1x One Spot Foxface OR Lemon Peel Angel (Want a yellow show piece) Added last
1x Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse

As far as first fish, would the chromis go before the clowns? I also like the Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse. If a wrasse was included, would THAT be the first fish? Followed by Chromis or Clowns? (Covered top of course). Appreciate your patience and feedback. Thanks!


michfish5 is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 05:43 PM   #6681
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarahlovesfish View Post
I have a 80 gallon reeftank. I currently have a
- 1 Midas Blenny will nip water column fish
- 1 blue green chromis
- 2 cleaner shrimp
- 1 fire shrimp
- turbo,nassarisus,conch

and my list for future fish-

- 1 fire goby (had before) introduce early
- 1 royal gramma (had before)
- 1 flasher wrasse jumper, needs 1/4 inch mesh
- 2 greenbanded gobies
- 1 bangaii cardinalfish should be tank raised
- 2 clownfish avoid the aggressive species such as GSM

could I possibly add more without overbioload, or is it good as it is?
except as noted, you should be fine


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 05:45 PM   #6682
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by CicoBuf View Post
I am planning to populate a 29G tank with live rock and live sand. I'll probably will have an Emperor 400 filter running and whatever light I need to grow some coral and an Ocellaris Clownfish. What other livestock additions should I consider?
As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions. However I will be happy to evaluate any stocking list coupled with the environment provided.


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 05:49 PM   #6683
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by michfish5 View Post
Thank you for your reply. Taking another stab at my list for the 65 gallon FOWLR:

3x Blue Reef Chromis will likely become one over time
1x Oscellaris Clown (tank raised) or would a pair be better? a juvenile will eventually morph into a female
1x Royal Gramma
1x One Spot Foxface OR Lemon Peel Angel (Want a yellow show piece) Added last a foxface needs a larger tank; either fish is marginal at best in this sized tank
1x Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse jumper which requires 1/4 inch mesh top

As far as first fish, would the chromis go before the clowns? I also like the Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse. If a wrasse was included, would THAT be the first fish? Followed by Chromis or Clowns? (Covered top of course). Appreciate your patience and feedback. Thanks!
there is not a huge difference in aggressiveness in this fish list, flasher wrasse should be first.


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 07:19 PM   #6684
michfish5
Registered Member
 
michfish5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 167
Thanks so much!


michfish5 is offline  
Unread 06/29/2013, 09:45 PM   #6685
MikeL1987
Registered Member
 
MikeL1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: East Haven, CT
Posts: 45
Please give me some feedback, it would be much appreciated,
currently cycling my 65 gallon hex. going the FOWLR approach until I can afford to upgrade lights/skimmer/filtration.

I want to get a CUC but I was told some inverts may be hazardous to my reef once I dive into coral keeping.

-What CUC are reef safe?


__________________
60g hex, Cree LED's
MikeL1987 is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 04:10 AM   #6686
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeL1987 View Post
Please give me some feedback, it would be much appreciated,
currently cycling my 65 gallon hex. going the FOWLR approach until I can afford to upgrade lights/skimmer/filtration.

I want to get a CUC but I was told some inverts may be hazardous to my reef once I dive into coral keeping.

-What CUC are reef safe?
Sorry, but this thread is only about Marine Fish Compatibility. You will get lots of feedback if you post a separate thread in New to the Hobby. In general, I have various kinds of snails only.


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:08 AM   #6687
HUNTER1
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,044
Hi, 20g high
Option one, 3 yellowtail damsel fish and yellow watchman goby
Option two, one yellowtail damsel fish, royal gramma and yellow watchman goby
Thanks



Last edited by HUNTER1; 06/30/2013 at 09:07 AM.
HUNTER1 is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 09:20 AM   #6688
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by HUNTER1 View Post
Hi, 20g high
Option one, 3 yellowtail damsel fish and yellow watchman goby
Option two, one yellowtail damsel fish, royal gramma and yellow watchman goby
Thanks
Think two fish in that sized tank. The royal gramma and watchman goby would be fine; you could have a clown goby as well if you were so inclined. Damsels are territorial and do not do well in small sized tanks with water column fish.


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 02:08 PM   #6689
HUNTER1
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,044
Quote:
Originally Posted by snorvich View Post
Think two fish in that sized tank. The royal gramma and watchman goby would be fine; you could have a clown goby as well if you were so inclined. Damsels are territorial and do not do well in small sized tanks with water column fish.
Sounds good on the gramma, YWG and clown goby, thank you.


HUNTER1 is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 06:14 PM   #6690
Riona
Registered Member
 
Riona's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 298
I'm thinking that eventually(as in a year or two) I want to upgrade to a 40 gallon breeder.

Stock: 2 percula clownfish(already have in my biocube)
2 chalk bass.

The tank will be skimmerless and will have a 5 gallon water change either weekly or every other week.


Riona is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 06:18 PM   #6691
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riona View Post
I'm thinking that eventually(as in a year or two) I want to upgrade to a 40 gallon breeder.

Stock: 2 percula clownfish(already have in my biocube)
2 chalk bass.

The tank will be skimmerless and will have a 5 gallon water change either weekly or every other week.
I think that should be fine. Provide rock work with hiding places.


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 07:09 PM   #6692
Turningdoc
Registered Member
 
Turningdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turningdoc View Post
4 months in with 110 tall (48x18x 31 tall). AI Sol LED lighting Stock at present:

1 Banghai cardinal
Pair sunset Anthias
1 Lawnmower Blenny
1 fire/blood shrimp
2 peppermint shrimp
2 scarlet cleaner shrimp
Various crew w hermits
Several corals

Want to add a single "Feature" fish but want to keep inverts and coral fairly safe.
First thought was Kole Tang
Second thought, need help!!!!
Thanks
Thinking of adding:
Powderblue tang
Clown goby
Oscellaris


Turningdoc is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 07:36 PM   #6693
dmbnj
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 34
I'm planning ahead for my Juv Naso Tang. How big a tank will he need at maturity? Would a 325gal 6'x30x36 be big enough for him?

Also live stock question.
I have a 75gal 48x18x21, 40lbs of live rock (will be adding 50lbs of base rock), sump, Reef Octopus Diablo 6 Inch 160 XS Space Saver. Tank has been running for 15mos
Current Livestock:
Juv Naso Tang
Pair of Perc clowns
Melanarus Wrasse
Freidmani psudeochromis
2 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 Peppermint shrimp
Condy and 2 sexy shrimp
1 Green BTA
1 emerald crab
Several hermits
snails

Thinking of moving the clowns and BTA to a 29G Biocube once it is cycled. Could I also move the Condy and sexy shrimp?

How many more fish, if any, and what type can I add to the 75?

Thanks in advance.


dmbnj is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:12 PM   #6694
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turningdoc View Post

4 months in with 110 tall (48x18x 31 tall). AI Sol LED lighting Stock at present:

1 Banghai cardinal
Pair sunset Anthias
1 Lawnmower Blenny
1 fire/blood shrimp
2 peppermint shrimp
2 scarlet cleaner shrimp
Various crew w hermits
Several corals

Want to add a single "Feature" fish but want to keep inverts and coral fairly safe.
First thought was Kole Tang would be fine
Second thought, need help!!!!
Thanks
Thinking of adding:
Powderblue tang needs a larger tank
Clown goby fine
Oscellaris fine





__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 08:15 PM   #6695
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmbnj View Post
I'm planning ahead for my Juv Naso Tang. How big a tank will he need at maturity? Would a 325gal 6'x30x36 be big enough for him? No, minimum would be an 8 foot tank; length is more important than gallonage

Also live stock question.
I have a 75gal 48x18x21, 40lbs of live rock (will be adding 50lbs of base rock), sump, Reef Octopus Diablo 6 Inch 160 XS Space Saver. Tank has been running for 15mos
Current Livestock:
Juv Naso Tang
Pair of Perc clowns
Melanarus Wrasse
Freidmani psudeochromis
2 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 Peppermint shrimp
Condy and 2 sexy shrimp
1 Green BTA
1 emerald crab
Several hermits
snails

Thinking of moving the clowns and BTA to a 29G Biocube once it is cycled. Could I also move the Condy and sexy shrimp? The anemone might be a problem depending on various factors including lighting and flow

How many more fish, if any, and what type can I add to the 75?

an impossible question to answer. Clearly the naso tang (which ever species) needs a much larger tank but one can never answer "how many" type questions as it is a behavioral issue more than a bioload issue

Thanks in advance.



__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 06/30/2013, 11:56 PM   #6696
MikeL1987
Registered Member
 
MikeL1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: East Haven, CT
Posts: 45
65 hex with 45+ lbs LR. please let me know if these fish will be compatible.

powder blue tang
dwarf coral beauty angelfish
purple dottyback
Ocellaris Clownfish

also, would adding some type of butterfly to these be alright?

I don't want too many fish just need to know which of these will work best together.

feedback appreciated!!


MikeL1987 is offline  
Unread 07/01/2013, 04:05 AM   #6697
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeL1987 View Post
65 hex with 45+ lbs LR. please let me know if these fish will be compatible.

No, they are not. No tangs in a 65 gallon tank. A purple dottyback is exceptionally aggressive and will limit future additions.

powder blue tang
dwarf coral beauty angelfish
purple dottyback
Ocellaris Clownfish

also, would adding some type of butterfly to these be alright?

assuming you subtract the tang and dottyback, there are some species of butterfly fish that would work in a FOWLR tank of this size.

I don't want too many fish just need to know which of these will work best together.

feedback appreciated!!



__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 07/01/2013, 05:47 PM   #6698
hessfish125
Registered Member
 
hessfish125's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Lancaster SC
Posts: 73
Hey steve, I'm new to the hobby and heard you were the best to ask about fish compatibility. I have a 125 (6 foot tank been set up for a couple of months). Here are the fish I want to add over time. It also will be a reef tank.

Diamond Watchman Goby
Christmas Wrasse
Carpenter Wrasse
2 true percula clownfish
Bangaii Cardinal
Spotted Puffer
Anenome hosted by the clowns
Blue gudgeon goby
Powder blue tang
3 lyretail anthias (1 male 2 female)
foxface rabbitfish
flame angel
sailfin algae blenny
longnose hawkfish

Thanks so much.
John


hessfish125 is offline  
Unread 07/01/2013, 05:54 PM   #6699
snorvich
Team RC member
 
snorvich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Outlander
Posts: 40,953
Blog Entries: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by hessfish125 View Post
Hey steve, I'm new to the hobby and heard you were the best to ask about fish compatibility. I have a 125 (6 foot tank been set up for a couple of months). Here are the fish I want to add over time. It also will be a reef tank.

Diamond Watchman Goby
Christmas Wrasse Not invertebrate safe
Carpenter Wrasse
2 true percula clownfish
Bangaii Cardinal
Spotted Puffer Not invertebrate safe
Anenome hosted by the clowns Actually the anemone hosts the clowns rather than vice versa; make sure the species of anemone is suitable to A. percula
Blue gudgeon goby
Powder blue tang
3 lyretail anthias (1 male 2 female)
foxface rabbitfish
flame angel
sailfin algae blenny
longnose hawkfish Not shrimp safe

Thanks so much.
John
A bit crowded, but not terribly so; with multiple algae grazers, be sure to supplement with nori


__________________
Warmest regards,
~Steve~
snorvich is offline  
Unread 07/01/2013, 10:26 PM   #6700
Reef1121
Registered Member
 
Reef1121's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Travis AFB
Posts: 332
Originally Posted by Reef1121
I am thinking about setting up a 120g and upgrading out of my current 100g. The tank will be a primarily SPS dominant tank with a few LPS pieces and some higher end zoas. I'll be running an appropriate skimmer, media reactors (carbon, gfo, bio-pellets and maybe calcium down the road). I'm still deciding which lighting to go with but I can wait. Just trying to get a good plan together so the tank isn't rushed like ones in the past.

So here's the fish stocking list I came up with. Please tell me what you think. As far as compatibility goes.

Reef Central's minimum tank size for tangs recommendation can be found here. As you can see, the minimum recommended tank size for each of your tangs is barely met. What that means long term is that no other tangs can be safely added.

Purple Tang (existing tank 3")
?Powder Brown Tang (existing tank 3")
Male&female bellus angelfish Getting a hardy male Genicanthus of any species is problematic and both male and female must be added concurrently for outcome to be successful.
5-7 Bartlett's (existing tank 1 male&1 female) or evansi anthia

While all anthias do best with multiple feedings per day, Evansi are rather picky and may be difficult to start eating. Nutramar ova would be preferred initially

Hawaiian flame wrasse pair Best chance would be two female flame wrasses of different size so one changes to male; males ship very poorly and have a low success rate
Laboutes wrasse
Radiant wrasse
Exquisite (vanuatu) or Scott's fairy (cook islands) wrasse C. scottorum tolerates other fairy wrasses poorly;
Blue Spot Jawfish and/or Midas blenny blue spot jawfish needs cooler temperatures for long term success. (72-75 F)
? Pair of designer clowns

You will need a tank cover of 1/4 inch mesh as you have some prolific jumpers


Thank you for the feedback. I think with the input I'll give my Powder brown to a happy home of a fellow reefer and keep my prized purple tang. I'll also go with the Midas blenny over the bluespot jawfish. And what do you think about a red mandarin after the tank is established (1+ year), would it get along with everything in the list?



Last edited by Reef1121; 07/01/2013 at 10:29 PM. Reason: Didn't copy the original quote
Reef1121 is offline  
Closed Thread

Tags
marine fish compatibility


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Online Fish purchase. RBU1 Reef Discussion 16 02/03/2014 08:50 PM
PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first! Sk8r New to the Hobby 5300 09/09/2011 04:25 PM
Intended Fish Purchase fishyman12 New to the Hobby 2 06/20/2011 07:40 AM
Intended Fish Purchase's nmohara New to the Hobby 61 11/30/2010 04:11 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2025 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.