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snorvich · 07/02/2013, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Reef1121

Originally Posted by Reef1121
I am thinking about setting up a 120g and upgrading out of my current 100g. The tank will be a primarily SPS dominant tank with a few LPS pieces and some higher end zoas. I'll be running an appropriate skimmer, media reactors (carbon, gfo, bio-pellets and maybe calcium down the road). I'm still deciding which lighting to go with but I can wait. Just trying to get a good plan together so the tank isn't rushed like ones in the past.

So here's the fish stocking list I came up with. Please tell me what you think. As far as compatibility goes.

Reef Central's minimum tank size for tangs recommendation can be found here. As you can see, the minimum recommended tank size for each of your tangs is barely met. What that means long term is that no other tangs can be safely added.

Purple Tang (existing tank 3")
?Powder Brown Tang (existing tank 3")
Male&female bellus angelfish Getting a hardy male Genicanthus of any species is problematic and both male and female must be added concurrently for outcome to be successful.
5-7 Bartlett's (existing tank 1 male&1 female) or evansi anthia

While all anthias do best with multiple feedings per day, Evansi are rather picky and may be difficult to start eating. Nutramar ova would be preferred initially

Hawaiian flame wrasse pair Best chance would be two female flame wrasses of different size so one changes to male; males ship very poorly and have a low success rate
Laboutes wrasse
Radiant wrasse
Exquisite (vanuatu) or Scott's fairy (cook islands) wrasse C. scottorum tolerates other fairy wrasses poorly;
Blue Spot Jawfish and/or Midas blenny blue spot jawfish needs cooler temperatures for long term success. (72-75 F)
? Pair of designer clowns

You will need a tank cover of 1/4 inch mesh as you have some prolific jumpers

Thank you for the feedback. I think with the input I'll give my Powder brown to a happy home of a fellow reefer and keep my prized purple tang.

I'll also go with the Midas blenny over the bluespot jawfish. And what do you think about a red mandarin after the tank is established (1+ year), would it get along with everything in the list?

A midas blenny will nip at the fins of water column fish in small tanks, but perhaps in your sized tank that would be minimized. With all the copepod eaters, you may have difficulty with a mandarin. Also, please do not remove my coloration on answers if there are follow up questions. The magentas allows me to easily differentiate my answers from your questions.

Reef1121 · 07/02/2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

A midas blenny will nip at the fins of water column fish in small tanks, but perhaps in your sized tank that would be minimized. With all the copepod eaters, you may have difficulty with a mandarin. Also, please do not remove my coloration on answers if there are follow up questions. The magentas allows me to easily differentiate my answers from your questions.

Sorry about that

. I went to quote what you had written and it didn't work so I just copied and pasted. Thanks again for all of the help. If I have anymore questions ill be sure to ask.

snorvich · 07/02/2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Reef1121

Sorry about that

. I went to quote what you had written and it didn't work so I just copied and pasted. Thanks again for all of the help. If I have anymore questions ill be sure to ask.

Always a pleasure, check back with any fish compatibility questions

tinman01 · 07/02/2013, 03:31 PM

ok here is the question
tank 16 gallon nuvo (24x10x12)
filteration live rock (no skimmer)

reef - select sps and mostly zoa/palys
current inhabitats - fire shrimp, one small baby clown and a sixline and a firefish

question is what fish can i add and be fine with the sixline wrasse .. six line is a little bitcy when it coms to firefish and chases it (which is why firefish always stays in the rock) but doesnt bother clown or the shrimp

im thinking of adding a hi fin pygmy perchlet and call it a day .. go or no go ?

snorvich · 07/02/2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tinman01

ok here is the question
tank 16 gallon nuvo (24x10x12)
filteration live rock (no skimmer)

reef - select sps and mostly zoa/palys
current inhabitats - fire shrimp, one small baby clown and a sixline and a firefish

question is what fish can i add and be fine with the sixline wrasse .. six line is a little bitcy when it coms to firefish and chases it (which is why firefish always stays in the rock) but doesnt bother clown or the shrimp

im thinking of adding a hi fin pygmy perchlet and call it a day .. go or no go ?

A sixline wrasse limits choices especially in small or very small tanks. The fish you are proposing needs a larger tank, especially with the sixline.

tinman01 · 07/03/2013, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

A sixline wrasse limits choices especially in small or very small tanks. The fish you are proposing needs a larger tank, especially with the sixline.

Thanks Snorvich

Thought so ..

so it limits my choices but i still have some choice ?? if yes what are my choices ??

and i meant Geometric Pygmy Perchlet

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...17&pcatid=1917

Stepho725 · 07/03/2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tinman01

Thanks Snorvich

Thought so ..

so it limits my choices but i still have some choice ?? if yes what are my choices ??

and i meant Geometric Pygmy Perchlet

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...17&pcatid=1917

I think your tank is already too small for the fish you have and you probably shouldnt add anothet fish.

snorvich · 07/03/2013, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tinman01

Thanks Snorvich

Thought so ..

so it limits my choices but i still have some choice ?? if yes what are my choices ??

and i meant Geometric Pygmy Perchlet

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...17&pcatid=1917

Live Aquaria recommends a 30 gallon tank for a geometric pygmy perchlet; you have a sixteen gallon tank. Live Aquaria also recommends a 30 gallon tank for a six line wrasse. I would stick with the one fish you have.

tinman01 · 07/03/2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

Live Aquaria recommends a 30 gallon tank for a geometric pygmy perchlet; you have a sixteen gallon tank. Live Aquaria also recommends a 30 gallon tank for a six line wrasse. I would stick with the one fish you have.

Hmmm ..will do

thanks

Saltwater_Biker · 07/03/2013, 11:18 AM

75 gallon DT, 29 sump with some LPS frags. I have a red and purple fire fish, and 2 ocellaris clowns. Looking for a more brighter, colorful fish or fishes to add that wont get bullied by the clowns.
Any suggestions?

snorvich · 07/03/2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltwater_Biker

75 gallon DT, 29 sump with some LPS frags. I have a red and purple fire fish, and 2 ocellaris clowns. Looking for a more brighter, colorful fish or fishes to add that wont get bullied by the clowns.
Any suggestions?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. Your clownfish (A. ocellaris), once sexually mature, will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space so you should have room for water column fish. Of course, clownfish will ignore non-water column fish.

Blue Ring · 07/03/2013, 05:52 PM

i have an 80 gallon bowfront with a 20 gallon sump. 9.5 return pump. Tunze 6080 power head. ASM G-1 skimmer. Kent Phosphate Reactor. Coralife lighting with 2 14000K 150W MH, 2 96W Actinics. 3in live sandbed. Coral insert with 25 lbs Fiji live rock. This tank is not up and running yet so good time for me to ask if these fish will be good choice for mini reef tank. Yellow tang, Regal blue tang, Flame angel, 2 moroon clowns, Cherub angel, Bicolor angel, Red Mandarin, Leopard wrasse. Would these be good to keep together?

snorvich · 07/03/2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Ring

i have an 80 gallon bowfront with a 20 gallon sump. 9.5 return pump. Tunze 6080 power head. ASM G-1 skimmer. Kent Phosphate Reactor. Coralife lighting with 2 14000K 150W MH, 2 96W Actinics. 3in live sandbed. Coral insert with 25 lbs Fiji live rock. This tank is not up and running yet so good time for me to ask if these fish will be good choice for mini reef tank.

Yellow tang, Reef Central's recommended minimum tank size for tangs can be found here. A yellow tang really needs a larger tank and once established will be aggressive to most additions
Regal blue tang, Needs a much larger tank, at least 8 foot
Flame angel, Two dwarf angels will work in this sized tank
2 moroon clowns, Most aggressive clown species that will want to control 50 gallons of tank space once sexually mature
Cherub angel,
Bicolor angel,
Red Mandarin, A mandarin and a leopard wrasse will not work in this sized tank although either one would
Leopard wrasse.

Would these be good to keep together?

See notes above

Saltwater_Biker · 07/03/2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions for a variety of reasons. Your clownfish (A. ocellaris), once sexually mature, will want to control about 25 gallons of tank space so you should have room for water column fish. Of course, clownfish will ignore non-water column fish.

Sorry, what do you mean water column fish vs a non- water column fish?

snorvich · 07/03/2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltwater_Biker

Sorry, what do you mean water column fish vs a non- water column fish?

A shrimp goby is a sand dweller as an example of a non-water column fish whereas a dwarf angel resides in the water column exclusively.

Saltwater_Biker · 07/03/2013, 08:19 PM

oh, thanks Snorvich!

MikeL1987 · 07/05/2013, 03:33 AM

So I have been doing my homework and found out I will not be able to keep MOST of the fish I was looking to put in my tank.

I have a 65g hex with 45lbs rock.

I'd like to get a pair of clowns, and a sand sifting goby for sure. what are 2 or 3 others that I could add to my tank?

snorvich · 07/05/2013, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeL1987

So I have been doing my homework and found out I will not be able to keep MOST of the fish I was looking to put in my tank.

I have a 65g hex with 45lbs rock.

I'd like to get a pair of clowns, and a sand sifting goby for sure. what are 2 or 3 others that I could add to my tank?

What species of clownfish? Makes a big difference. As mentioned previously, I do not provide recommendations.

PatmanM3 · 07/05/2013, 05:17 AM

I currently have a 110 and will be upgrading very soon to a 240+ gallon 8ft x 2ft x 2ft FOWLR setup.

Current fish:
Blue face angel (5in adult)
Domino damsel (4in)
Blue velvet damsel (4.5in)
Engineer goby (9in)
Gold stripe maroon clown (3in)
Spotted rabbitfish (4in)
Sohal tang (7in)

I know that my current fish are all in tight quarters but so far they've gotten along (going 6 months).

Now for the 240 gal I plan on adding:

Flame hawk fish
French angelfish
Orange shoulder tang (show sized)
Blonde naso tang

I will be keeping the sohal in QT for a while and will be the absolute last fish to be transferred over.

Thanks in advance for input!

snorvich · 07/05/2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PatmanM3

I currently have a 110 and will be upgrading very soon to a 240+ gallon 8ft x 2ft x 2ft FOWLR setup.

Current fish:
Blue face angel (5in adult)
Domino damsel (4in)
Blue velvet damsel (4.5in)
Engineer goby (9in)
Gold stripe maroon clown (3in)
Spotted rabbitfish (4in)
Sohal tang (7in)

I know that my current fish are all in tight quarters but so far they've gotten along (going 6 months).

Now for the 240 gal I plan on adding:

Flame hawk fish
French angelfish
Orange shoulder tang (show sized)
Blonde naso tang

Two large angels in the long run are likely to be problematic; the French especially can be aggressive. A Sohal tang, from my experience, will mature into a very ornery fish. They are fine when small, but there seems to be a point when a switch flips and they become super aggressive. While your new tank is significantly larger than your current one, I am reluctant to indicate that this mix will work long term as the fish mature.

I will be keeping the sohal in QT for a while and will be the absolute last fish to be transferred over.

Thanks in advance for input!

HUNTER1 · 07/05/2013, 08:29 AM

Hi again, I have a 20g high that now has 2 yellowtail damsels and fairly nice to each other, no aggression, these were given to me. Can I possibly add a royal gramma and a single clown with them? thanks

snorvich · 07/05/2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HUNTER1

Hi again, I have a 20g high that now has 2 yellowtail damsels and fairly nice to each other, no aggression, these were given to me. Can I possibly add a royal gramma and a single clown with them? thanks

The odds are against you given such a small tank with such aggressive fish.

mujtaba · 07/05/2013, 03:05 PM

Hi, I have a 210 gallons tank with 50 gallons sump and over 150 lbs of live rocks.
Current Fish:
Regal tang (2.5")
Yellow Tang (3")
Ocellaris Clown (1.5")
Future wish list
Emperor Angel
Schooling bannerfish
Flameangel
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Royal dottyback
Future CUC
Nassarius Snails
Cleaner shrimps
Peppermint shrimps
Red starfish (Fromica Indica)

Plz suggest. Also, I am planning my next addition to be sailfin but im a bit confused as i hv read both success and failure stories of mixing it with Yellow tang.

HUNTER1 · 07/05/2013, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

The odds are against you given such a small tank with such aggressive fish.

Will sixline wrasse work with two yellowtail damsels in a 40g? thanks

snorvich · 07/05/2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HUNTER1

Will sixline wrasse work with two yellowtail damsels in a 40g? thanks

now you are planning three aggressive fish. Tank size is a large improvement, however.

07/03/2013, 11:18 AM	#6710
Saltwater_Biker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bay Area Posts: 186	75 gallon DT, 29 sump with some LPS frags. I have a red and purple fire fish, and 2 ocellaris clowns. Looking for a more brighter, colorful fish or fishes to add that wont get bullied by the clowns. Any suggestions? __________________ fox face, royal gramma, pair of Clowns, Cheato, candy cane, hammer, blasto, sun coral, plate coral, moon coral, BTA Current Tank Info: 75 gallon, 29 DIY sump, aquaticelife t5 6x54w, eshopps overflow 800, mag 9.5 return, brs gfo reactor, 2 evo 1050 and 1 evo 1500, koralia wavemaker, desklamp cfl 13w 6500k for refugium, aqua c ev 180 with mag 9.5, marinedepot refractometer

07/03/2013, 08:19 PM	#6716
Saltwater_Biker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bay Area Posts: 186	oh, thanks Snorvich! __________________ fox face, royal gramma, pair of Clowns, Cheato, candy cane, hammer, blasto, sun coral, plate coral, moon coral, BTA Current Tank Info: 75 gallon, 29 DIY sump, aquaticelife t5 6x54w, eshopps overflow 800, mag 9.5 return, brs gfo reactor, 2 evo 1050 and 1 evo 1500, koralia wavemaker, desklamp cfl 13w 6500k for refugium, aqua c ev 180 with mag 9.5, marinedepot refractometer

07/05/2013, 03:33 AM	#6717
MikeL1987 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: East Haven, CT Posts: 45	So I have been doing my homework and found out I will not be able to keep MOST of the fish I was looking to put in my tank. I have a 65g hex with 45lbs rock. I'd like to get a pair of clowns, and a sand sifting goby for sure. what are 2 or 3 others that I could add to my tank? __________________ 60g hex, Cree LED's

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tinman01 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 67	ok here is the question tank 16 gallon nuvo (24x10x12) filteration live rock (no skimmer) reef - select sps and mostly zoa/palys current inhabitats - fire shrimp, one small baby clown and a sixline and a firefish question is what fish can i add and be fine with the sixline wrasse .. six line is a little bitcy when it coms to firefish and chases it (which is why firefish always stays in the rock) but doesnt bother clown or the shrimp im thinking of adding a hi fin pygmy perchlet and call it a day .. go or no go ?

07/03/2013, 05:52 PM	#6712
Blue Ring Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 7	i have an 80 gallon bowfront with a 20 gallon sump. 9.5 return pump. Tunze 6080 power head. ASM G-1 skimmer. Kent Phosphate Reactor. Coralife lighting with 2 14000K 150W MH, 2 96W Actinics. 3in live sandbed. Coral insert with 25 lbs Fiji live rock. This tank is not up and running yet so good time for me to ask if these fish will be good choice for mini reef tank. Yellow tang, Regal blue tang, Flame angel, 2 moroon clowns, Cherub angel, Bicolor angel, Red Mandarin, Leopard wrasse. Would these be good to keep together?

07/05/2013, 05:17 AM	#6719
PatmanM3 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 28	I currently have a 110 and will be upgrading very soon to a 240+ gallon 8ft x 2ft x 2ft FOWLR setup. Current fish: Blue face angel (5in adult) Domino damsel (4in) Blue velvet damsel (4.5in) Engineer goby (9in) Gold stripe maroon clown (3in) Spotted rabbitfish (4in) Sohal tang (7in) I know that my current fish are all in tight quarters but so far they've gotten along (going 6 months). Now for the 240 gal I plan on adding: Flame hawk fish French angelfish Orange shoulder tang (show sized) Blonde naso tang I will be keeping the sohal in QT for a while and will be the absolute last fish to be transferred over. Thanks in advance for input!

07/05/2013, 08:29 AM	#6721
HUNTER1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Hi again, I have a 20g high that now has 2 yellowtail damsels and fairly nice to each other, no aggression, these were given to me. Can I possibly add a royal gramma and a single clown with them? thanks

07/05/2013, 03:05 PM	#6723
mujtaba Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 60	Hi, I have a 210 gallons tank with 50 gallons sump and over 150 lbs of live rocks. Current Fish: Regal tang (2.5") Yellow Tang (3") Ocellaris Clown (1.5") Future wish list Emperor Angel Schooling bannerfish Flameangel Desjardini Sailfin Tang Royal dottyback Future CUC Nassarius Snails Cleaner shrimps Peppermint shrimps Red starfish (Fromica Indica) Plz suggest. Also, I am planning my next addition to be sailfin but im a bit confused as i hv read both success and failure stories of mixing it with Yellow tang.