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Unread 09/09/2010, 02:58 PM   #651
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Without flow, how long do you think it would take the reactor to go anoxic?
A quick sniff should give you an idea of the condition of the reactor contents.
If it smells like death don't run it until you rinse it off.
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Unread 09/09/2010, 04:41 PM   #652
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A reactor could go anoxic rapidly, within hours, if the nutrient load is high, but it wouldn't necessarily produce enough hydrogen sulfide to be an issue. I'd go with the sniff test, or just flush it every time.


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Unread 09/09/2010, 04:51 PM   #653
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A reactor could go anoxic rapidly, within hours, if the nutrient load is high, but it wouldn't necessarily produce enough hydrogen sulfide to be an issue. I'd go with the sniff test, or just flush it every time.
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A quick sniff should give you an idea of the condition of the reactor contents.
If it smells like death don't run it until you rinse it off.
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That's something I would have never thought of. It should be a warning on packaging. Thanks for the good info


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Unread 09/09/2010, 09:53 PM   #654
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Well guys I am starting to see more clumping of the EB. Two possibilities from what I am thinking.
1. The flow isn't enough with the current pump
(currently it is supposed to run at 132 gph)
2. I noticed inside the reactor a lot of extra debris, including some white scum like looking thing. I am not running any kind of filter sock so I will add one this weekend.

On the plus side glass is looking very clean!


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Unread 09/09/2010, 10:02 PM   #655
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Hey guys, I am super interested in this product, and were wondering if you think it would work out in my system. I have a 210 gallon mixed reef, that has been overall doing really well. I have recently increased my feedings in an attempt to keep my anthias and new tangs happy. Since the feedings have increased, I have noticed a very light green cyano-ish bacteria growing in the lowest flow areas of the tank. My sps have also lost some of their color. Ive always had some diatomish brown algae that grows on the sand. Im guessing increased nutrients in the system are the culprit and Id like to get the tank as clean as possible. The only supplements I have ever used are calcium and alkalinity buffers, as well as GFO. I currently have a reactor filled with de-nitrate that I was thinking of swapping out for this product. Do you think this product will help? Here is a pic of the tank just for fun. Also my nitrates and phosphates are testing up as 0, but I am only using API kits so I know they are not the most accurate.



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Unread 09/09/2010, 10:22 PM   #656
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I dunno. If what you're doing works then why would you fix it?
I mean, once you change things you run the risk of changing things for the worse.


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Unread 09/09/2010, 10:49 PM   #657
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I dunno. If what you're doing works then why would you fix it?
I mean, once you change things you run the risk of changing things for the worse.


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I just want better color out of my sps, and hopefully less algae and cyano growth.


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Unread 09/09/2010, 11:15 PM   #658
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I just want better color out of my sps, and hopefully less algae and cyano growth.
You could try it, but I'd do it in addition to what you're doing, and not replace something that just might only need tweaking. U don't want to run the risk of outsmarting yourself. Believe me there's enough of that in this hobby already.

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Unread 09/10/2010, 12:51 AM   #659
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Thats true, I honestly dont think the denitrate does all that much anyway, I think phosphates are my biggest issue


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Unread 09/12/2010, 02:25 PM   #660
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Ok week three and placing the 3rd - 250 ml of the EB. So far no undesirable algae blooms! I also bought another pump, a SYNCRA 3.0 pump by Sicce. They were at MACNA and I was impressed by the display and the fact that I can control its output. The new pump really does a much better job at tumbling the pellets.

I also added a filter sock. While a few reefers note that the filter socks keep a lot of the particles and food substances for corals I also know that the reactor was also full of debris. Which could also block water flow along the bottom and top crates. Which would prohibit EB from tumbling.

My question is, any of you running EB also running filter socks? If not what is your reason? If yes why?


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Unread 09/12/2010, 08:37 PM   #661
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I have decided to give ecoBak a shot... I have 1ml coming in the mail this week. I retrofited an old kalk reactor so i should be ready to roll. My tank currently is < 5ppm and I run GFO with no nuisance algea.

Do you think i should add all the 1ml at once?
Also, is my alk at 9.5dkh OK?


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Unread 09/12/2010, 08:39 PM   #662
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I have decided to give ecoBak a shot... I have 1ml coming in the mail this week. I retrofited an old kalk reactor so i should be ready to roll. My tank currently is < 5ppm and I run GFO with no nuisance algea.

Do you think i should add all the 1ml at once?
Also, is my alk at 9.5dkh OK?


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Unread 09/12/2010, 09:35 PM   #663
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Well, I took the plunge and picked up a Little Fishies 550 reactor and 1000ml of pellets for my 160 total gallon system. I'm having to wipe my glass every day or two, and have some nuisance algae. I plan to run my GFO reactor for 4-6 weeks until the EcoBak is fully populated.

I tried to run it using a Maxijet 1200 but I'm not getting enough flow. What does everyone think about tee-ing off one of my return lines to feed it?

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Unread 09/12/2010, 09:47 PM   #664
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Well, I took the plunge and picked up a Little Fishies 550 reactor and 1000ml of pellets for my 160 total gallon system. I'm having to wipe my glass every day or two, and have some nuisance algae. I plan to run my GFO reactor for 4-6 weeks until the EcoBak is fully populated.

I tried to run it using a Maxijet 1200 but I'm not getting enough flow. What does everyone think about tee-ing off one of my return lines to feed it?

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I run mine of my return manifold, no problem mon.


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Unread 09/13/2010, 08:29 AM   #665
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Well, I took the plunge and picked up a Little Fishies 550 reactor and 1000ml of pellets for my 160 total gallon system. I'm having to wipe my glass every day or two, and have some nuisance algae. I plan to run my GFO reactor for 4-6 weeks until the EcoBak is fully populated.

I tried to run it using a Maxijet 1200 but I'm not getting enough flow. What does everyone think about tee-ing off one of my return lines to feed it?

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I am a big fan of teeing off the main pump via manifold. Saves on electricity and makes things more simplistic.


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Unread 09/13/2010, 09:28 AM   #666
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My question is, any of you running EB also running filter socks? If not what is your reason? If yes why?
I run bags as needed, mine tend to last about 1-2 days before blocking flow. Bags work great for cleaning up detritus from moving rock or sand. I even use one on return when i work on sump. (If I remember!) Also I notice skimmer stays much cleaner when running bags.




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Unread 09/13/2010, 12:18 PM   #667
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My question is, any of you running EB also running filter socks? If not what is your reason? If yes why?
I run a filter sock on my tank as well. Since going to the EB pellets I haven't had to change my sock more than normal.


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Unread 09/13/2010, 08:31 PM   #668
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Thanks guys for your input on running the socks.
I like the idea of keeping detritus out of the sump as much as possible and that means the reactor as well.
I just thought that running the socks would take away from the EB pellets job.
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I run a filter sock on my tank as well. Since going to the EB pellets I haven't had to change my sock more than normal.
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I run bags as needed, mine tend to last about 1-2 days before blocking flow. Bags work great for cleaning up detritus from moving rock or sand. I even use one on return when i work on sump. (If I remember!) Also I notice skimmer stays much cleaner when running bags.




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Unread 09/13/2010, 08:35 PM   #669
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Does anyone know if its safe to add all the 1lt of pellets? My nutrients are already low so I dont think i will see an algea bloom. My pellets will be here soon so would like some advice. Thanks!


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Most guys have done it all at once. My thoughts and just my opinion is to go with 1/2 of the EB for a week then the other half a week later. Going slowly isn't a crime.
I of course am doing 250ml per week until I reach the whole 1 liter. I am upto 750ml and so far my phosphate is at 0ppm. Nitrates were around 15ppm at end of 2nd week. I will test again to see where Nitrates are by Sat.

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Does anyone know if its safe to add all the 1lt of pellets? My nutrients are already low so I dont think i will see an algea bloom. My pellets will be here soon so would like some advice. Thanks!



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Unread 09/13/2010, 10:51 PM   #671
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Does anyone know if its safe to add all the 1lt of pellets? My nutrients are already low so I dont think i will see an algea bloom. My pellets will be here soon so would like some advice. Thanks!
I was dosing vodka and added 750ml all at one time and didn't see a bloom. IMO, I think if you were doing some type of carbon dosing or have low nutrient system, you won't see any algae bloom


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Unread 09/14/2010, 07:08 AM   #672
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I was dosing vodka and added 750ml all at one time and didn't see a bloom. IMO, I think if you were doing some type of carbon dosing or have low nutrient system, you won't see any algae bloom
OK, great ... My N03 are at 3ppm and not sure about Ph4 (waiting on my hanna) but I do run GFO and have no algae.


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I'm going to start with 1/2 and add 1/4 each week... just in case, since i have a fully stocked system with sps and fish Thanks for the advice


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I also run the socks have for years. After starting the EB had a slight bloom water was a little hazey. And the socks clogged pretty fast. Had to change out twice a day for about 2 days and around the third day was back to normal. And have seen others had the same thing happen. Just to let you know


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Just got in my 1lt of ecobak and it is soaking overnight in RO water. I also picked up a hanna ph4 checker.

Here are my params as of tonight:

N03 - 3ppm
PH4 - .08

I will add 500 ml into my retrofited kalk reactor for a week and then add 250 ml each week thereafter

I will recheck params on a weekly basis. Wish me luck!


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