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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by mujtaba

Hi, I have a 210 gallons tank with 50 gallons sump and over 150 lbs of live rocks.
Current Fish:
Regal tang (2.5") Reef Central's recommendation for this fish can be found here. However with this fish we strongly recommend an 8 foot tank; gallonage is not the primary issue, it is tank length.
Yellow Tang (3") An established yellow tang will not take kindly to other tangs or even other similarly sized fish
Ocellaris Clown (1.5")
Future wish list
Emperor Angel May also be an issue with the yellow tang
Schooling bannerfish
Flameangel
Desjardini Sailfin Tang An established yellow tang will not take kindly to other tangs or even other similarly sized fish
Royal dottyback very aggressive; will limit future choices
Future CUC
Nassarius Snails
Cleaner shrimps
Peppermint shrimps
Red starfish (Fromica Indica)

Plz suggest. Also, I am planning my next addition to be sailfin but im a bit confused as i hv read both success and failure stories of mixing it with Yellow tang.

[HUNTER1]

Originally Posted by snorvich

now you are planning three aggressive fish. Tank size is a large improvement, however.

One last question, can I put one damsel with sixline already in my 40g? the other fish is a starry blenny, thanks again

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by HUNTER1

One last question, can I put one damsel with sixline already in my 40g? the other fish is a starry blenny, thanks again

Probably.

[HUNTER1]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Probably.

Ok thanks

[eveningstar15]

I have a coralife 29 gallon biocube. Coralife protein skimmer, heater, 20lbs base rock, 10lbs live rock, 2" live sb, intank media basket with filter floss, purigen, chemi pure elite. I was thinking about getting a false clown, yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp, and maybe a purple firefish. Would that be the limit on the fish or could I getting maybe one more? Suggestions? What could I get for cuc, I think I like the crabs better then the snails. Is then any starfish that would be good for my tank? What about a Porcelain Crab, anyone have any experience with those? I would also like to get some of the easier corals down the road. Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated !!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by eveningstar15

I have a coralife 29 gallon biocube. Coralife protein skimmer, heater, 20lbs base rock, 10lbs live rock, 2" live sb, intank media basket with filter floss, purigen, chemi pure elite. I was thinking about getting a false clown, yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp, and maybe a purple firefish. Would that be the limit on the fish or could I getting maybe one more?

The fish mentioned would do fine; introduce the firefish first. Remember that firefish are prolific jumpers so you will need a 1/4 inch mesh top.

Suggestions?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations; however I am quite happy to review any revised stocking list.

What could I get for cuc, I think I like the crabs better then the snails.

Pick snails or crabs but not both since crabs will kill snails for their shells.

Is then any starfish that would be good for my tank? What about a Porcelain Crab, anyone have any experience with those?

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility, so answers to those type questions will receive many answers as a separate thread in New to the Hobby.

I would also like to get some of the easier corals down the road. Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated !!

[Spork3245]

Is it possible to keep both a Flame [Dwarf] Angel and Coral Beauty [Dwarf] Angel in a 90 gallon tank if they are introduced at the same time?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Spork3245

Is it possible to keep both a Flame [Dwarf] Angel and Coral Beauty [Dwarf] Angel in a 90 gallon tank if they are introduced at the same time?

It depends on other tank mates, tank, maturity. In general, yes.

[Spork3245]

Originally Posted by snorvich

It depends on other tank mates, tank, maturity. In general, yes.

Tank will be 5-6 months old when/if I get them, they'll both likely be jueviniles when purchased, other tank mates are all peaceful fishes; ocellaris clowns, diamond goby, mimic tang, etc

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Spork3245

Tank will be 5-6 months old when/if I get them, they'll both likely be jueviniles when purchased, other tank mates are all peaceful fishes; ocellaris clowns, diamond goby, mimic tang, etc

You may be fine. Although, when asking this type of question, it helps to get all tank mates in order to provide the best answer. It is not just a function of whether a fish is inherently peaceful; for example, a mimic tang occupies the same ecological niche as a dwarf angel and as such may not be so peaceful in a relatively small tank if other occupants of the same ecological niche are introduced. It would have been preferable to introduce the tang last.

[aileen]

195g 72x24x26 with a 150g Rubbermaid sump. Runnin SRO5000SSS skimmer with brs carbon and gfo reactor. Also use zeobak and zeostart, but no zeolites.

Achilles Tang
Blue Hippo Tang
Purple Tang
3 Bartletts Anthia
3 Queen Anthia
6 Green Chromis
Solar Wrasse
Blue Sided Wrasse
Bangai Cardinal
2 Percs

I already have all the above except for Achilles and 3 queen anthias. Lookin for advice before I finalize purchase.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by aileen

195g 72x24x26 with a 150g Rubbermaid sump. Runnin SRO5000SSS skimmer with brs carbon and gfo reactor. Also use zeobak and zeostart, but no zeolites.

Achilles Tang
Blue Hippo Tang
Purple Tang
3 Bartletts Anthia
3 Queen Anthia
6 Green Chromis
Solar Wrasse
Blue Sided Wrasse
Bangai Cardinal
2 Percs

I already have all the above except for Achilles and 3 queen anthias. Lookin for advice before I finalize purchase.

I would not add another tang in a 6 foot tank with 2 already established tangs. Queen anthias are very difficult; odds of success are poor.

[Holsteiner]

When I added my achilles (a year ago this month), my purple tang was the only tang in the 6 ft tank. I was fortunate that my purple tang was pretty easy going and they got along immediately. However, the achilles is so aggressive i'll never be able to add another tang in this tank. I tried with a naso and within minutes he almost killed it, naso got moved to another 6 ft tank.

[sparky5785]

So I am Cycling my tank now and am looking for some advice on a stocking plan as I have never had a tank larger than 75g.

The system is so: 125gRR Aqueon 72"x18"x22", 3x 120w full spectrum programmable LED Fixtures, 150lbs fiji live rock directly out of an established system, 2" sandbed, 2x MP40wES, 33gL custom sump/fuge, Reef Octopus NWB-200, BRS Dual Reactor with GFO and Carbon, Mag 12 return pump, fuge with DSB live rock rubble and cheato, kalk dosed in ato, all controlled by a RKL Plus.

This will be a mixed reef with LPS and SPS.

I tried to put this in order of introduction so if you see any i should change please let me know.

FISH:

2x Snowflake Occelaris Clownfish

1x Randalls Goby w/pistol shrimp

1x Midas Blenny

1x Diamond Goby

1x Starry Blenny

1x Borbonius Anthia

1x Melanarus Wrasse

1x Mystery Wrasse

1x Potters Angel

1x Whitetail Bristletooth Tang or Yellow Eye Kole Tang

1x Yellow Tang or Purple Tang

1x Powder Blue Tang or Goldrim Tang

INVERTS:

2x Cleaner Shrimp

1x Tiger Sand Conch

1x Red Fromia Star

Various Snails and Hermits

CORALS:

Various LPS and SPS

Again Ive never had a tank of this size so if my eyes are bigger than my stomach please please by all means let me know.

[eveningstar15]

Originally Posted by eveningstar15

I have a coralife 29 gallon biocube. Coralife protein skimmer, heater, 20lbs base rock, 10lbs live rock, 2" live sb, intank media basket with filter floss, purigen, chemi pure elite. I was thinking about getting a false clown, yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp, and maybe a purple firefish.

Would I be able to add a tailspot blenny also or would that be to many fish??

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sparky5785

So I am Cycling my tank now and am looking for some advice on a stocking plan as I have never had a tank larger than 75g.

The system is so: 125gRR Aqueon 72"x18"x22", 3x 120w full spectrum programmable LED Fixtures, 150lbs fiji live rock directly out of an established system, 2" sandbed, 2x MP40wES, 33gL custom sump/fuge, Reef Octopus NWB-200, BRS Dual Reactor with GFO and Carbon, Mag 12 return pump, fuge with DSB live rock rubble and cheato, kalk dosed in ato, all controlled by a RKL Plus.

This will be a mixed reef with LPS and SPS.

I tried to put this in order of introduction so if you see any i should change please let me know.

FISH:

2x Snowflake Occelaris Clownfish

1x Randalls Goby w/pistol shrimp

1x Midas Blenny only one blenny; this one may nip on the fins of planktivores

1x Diamond Goby I would not put two sand dwelling gobies together

1x Starry Blenny only one blenny

1x Borbonius Anthia

1x Melanarus Wrasse

1x Mystery Wrasse

1x Potters Angel a bit more difficult than other dwarf angels

1x Whitetail Bristletooth Tang or Yellow Eye Kole Tang I would not try three tangs in this sized tank; selecting one of the above is more peaceful than zebrasoma tangs. Reef Centrals recommended minmum tank size recommendations can be found here. However, multiple tangs, in the minimum tank size can, over time, be a problem.

1x Yellow Tang or Purple Tang zebrasome tangs must be last fish added

1x Powder Blue Tang or Goldrim Tang should be last fish added

INVERTS:

2x Cleaner Shrimp

1x Tiger Sand Conch

1x Red Fromia Star

Various Snails and Hermits pick hermits or snails but not both since hermits will kill snails for their shells

CORALS:

Various LPS and SPS

Again Ive never had a tank of this size so if my eyes are bigger than my stomach please please by all means let me know.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by eveningstar15

I have a coralife 29 gallon biocube. Coralife protein skimmer, heater, 20lbs base rock, 10lbs live rock, 2" live sb, intank media basket with filter floss, purigen, chemi pure elite. I was thinking about getting a false clown, yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp, and maybe a purple firefish.

Would I be able to add a tailspot blenny also or would that be to many fish?? Would I be able to add a tailspot blenny also or would that be to many fish??

You should be fine; however you will need a top with 1/4 inch mesh

[sparky5785]

So if I were to cut that list down to include only two tangs that would be better. If so my question would be should I do either

A:

1x Whitetail Bristletooth or Yellow Eye Kole

And

1x Yellow or Purple or Powder Blue or Goldrim

Or B:

1x Yellow or Purple

And

1x Powder Blue or Goldrim

Should I put two more agressive tangs together instead of one passive and one agressive. My fear would be that the brisletooth tang would get picked on by the other tang?

I have successfully kept two Potters in the past one I had for two years passed in a move sadly and the other did become a coral nipper and was moved to a fowlr and is still there going on three years.
But I do respect that they are indeed a more difficult species.

Aa far as bioload and amount of fish you don't think I'm pushing the limit minus a third tang?

Thank you for your advice so far.

[AZBigJohn]

I'm curious if a yellow watchman goby and tiger pistol shrimp would be okay in my 28 gallon bullet shaped tank. I have seen recommended tank sizes of 10, 20 and 30 gallons for them.

The other occupants of the tank are:

2 ocellarius clowns
1 Hector's goby
1 emerald crab
3 nassarius snails

The Hector's goby does not stay in the sand, instead he swims constantly in the rocks, picking at algae.

I do have some corals on the ground, which I realize I might need to elevate and attach to some flat base rock.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sparky5785

So if I were to cut that list down to include only two tangs that would be better. If so my question would be should I do either

A:

1x Whitetail Bristletooth or Yellow Eye Kole

And

1x Yellow or Purple or Powder Blue or Goldrim

Or B:

1x Yellow or Purple

And

1x Powder Blue or Goldrim

Mixing fish occupying the same ecological niche is more the issue rather than inherent aggressiveness. With two tangs, assuming concurrent introduction, I would go with option A since it is likely the more stable long term

Should I put two more agressive tangs together instead of one passive and one agressive. My fear would be that the brisletooth tang would get picked on by the other tang?

I have successfully kept two Potters in the past one I had for two years passed in a move sadly and the other did become a coral nipper and was moved to a fowlr and is still there going on three years.
But I do respect that they are indeed a more difficult species.

Aa far as bioload and amount of fish you don't think I'm pushing the limit minus a third tang?

Bioload is rarely an issue except in over packing smallish tanks. Behavior is much more the binding constraint since a fish's territorial "needs" change as the fish matures and becomes established in your environment.

Thank you for your advice so far.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by AZBigJohn

I'm curious if a yellow watchman goby and tiger pistol shrimp would be okay in my 28 gallon bullet shaped tank.

Yes, it should be fine as it is not a water column fish. However, pistol shrimp are constantly moving sand to take care with any corals on the bottom.

I have seen recommended tank sizes of 10, 20 and 30 gallons for them.

The other occupants of the tank are:

2 ocellarius clowns
1 Hector's goby
1 emerald crab
3 nassarius snails

The Hector's goby does not stay in the sand, instead he swims constantly in the rocks, picking at algae. and copepods

I do have some corals on the ground, which I realize I might need to elevate and attach to some flat base rock.

[adamwheel]

In an earlier reply, you stated that a watanabei angel male and female would need to be added at the same time and that healthy ones were hard to come by.

Given that they start as female and transition to male, can I purchase 2 females?

Or....Might one not transition to male?

Thanks again for the help.

Adam

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by adamwheel

In an earlier reply, you stated that a watanabei angel male and female would need to be added at the same time and that healthy ones were hard to come by.

Given that they start as female and transition to male, can I purchase 2 females?

Or....Might one not transition to male?

Thanks again for the help.

Adam

two very small females may work. Genicanthus angels are difficult to obtain as pairs because males, for whatever reason, ship poorly.

[adamwheel]

Thank you for the quick reply. I notice on LA that the prices are very different on watanabei depending on location. Is there a locale that might grant a higher success rate or greater coloration?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by adamwheel

Thank you for the quick reply. I notice on LA that the prices are very different on watanabei depending on location. Is there a locale that might grant a higher success rate or greater coloration?

No coloration differences. Australian offers a better success rate, but this species is difficult. But I suggest this species for advanced aquarists rather than beginners.