PLEASE check out your intended fish purchases here first!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by jwwalker

Would it work without one?

In your sized tank, there will be some initial chasing. Best (after quarantine) is to introduce the second fish an hour before lights out and it should work.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Pspellmanjr

I have a 55 gallon tank with fluval 205, hanging aqueon filter, and live rock. I want to get

2 x ocellaris clownfish
Orange Goby
Flame Angel marginal tank size for two dwarf angels
Lemonpeel Angel
Kole Tang requires a larger tank
Copperband Butterflyfish requires a much larger tank; also, very difficult in the proper setting of which your environment is not

[Pspellmanjr]

Any suggestions?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Pspellmanjr

Any suggestions?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide suggestions/recommendations for a variety of reasons. I am, however, always willing to reanalyze any perspective stocking list.

[wesside]

Are fish within the same genus generally the same in terms of hardiness, feeding, etc.?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by wesside

Are fish within the same genus generally the same in terms of hardiness, feeding, etc.?

No. While some generalizations are possible, it is usually a bad idea to make those kind of assumptions.

[myownlife]

I have 34g cube 20x20x20
My current stock is
1 3inch flame angel
1 2 inch black white clown hosting 4 inch pink bubble tip
1 new 2 inch citron clown goby
1 fire shrimp
1 skunk shrimp
3 hermits and several snails

Corals
3 chalice, 3 acan, frogspawn, 2 torches, several zoas and palys, 2 maxi mini and one rock anemone

I have 35lbs of Tonga live rock and 40lbs of sand

Aquamaxx hob skimmer. Its a beast
2 tunze 9025 power heads 725 gph


I will be adding a 20 gallon Lifereef sump in December once completed

I would like to add one more fish which would be an orchid dottyback. Do you feel this would be possible.

[Kennyleary93]

So in this order is what I plan on introducing to my 30 gallon tank with live rock and sand and a 20g sump will be had in the future.

1 x Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (Amblyeleotris randalli)
1 x Snapping Shrimp, Red Banded (Alpheus randalli)
1 x Firefish, Helfrichi (Nemateleotris helfrichi)
1 x Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
2 x True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by myownlife

I have 34g cube 20x20x20
My current stock is
1 3inch flame angel
1 2 inch black white clown hosting 4 inch pink bubble tip FYI, the bubble tip anemone "hosts", the clown fish "associates"
1 new 2 inch citron clown goby
1 fire shrimp
1 skunk shrimp
3 hermits and several snails

Corals
3 chalice, 3 acan, frogspawn, 2 torches, several zoas and palys, 2 maxi mini and one rock anemone

I have 35lbs of Tonga live rock and 40lbs of sand

Aquamaxx hob skimmer. Its a beast
2 tunze 9025 power heads 725 gph


I will be adding a 20 gallon Lifereef sump in December once completed

I would like to add one more fish which would be an orchid dottyback. Do you feel this would be possible.

P fridmani is the least aggressive pseudochromis but is still semi-aggressive; marginal, but ok in this setup

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Kennyleary93

So in this order is what I plan on introducing to my 30 gallon tank with live rock and sand and a 20g sump will be had in the future.

1 x Orange Stripe Prawn Goby (Amblyeleotris randalli)
1 x Snapping Shrimp, Red Banded (Alpheus randalli)
1 x Firefish, Helfrichi (Nemateleotris helfrichi)
1 x Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse (Wetmorella tanakai)
2 x True Percula Clownfish (Amphiprion percula)

That will be fine

[FsuNole]

Thanks for helping us out snorvich! I'm currently building my 58 gallon and have built a 20 gallon sump for it as well. I just ordered 60 lbs of dry rock and 40 lbs of sand. I will be seeding it with a piece of live rock once my structure is built... I'm thinking of doing arches with shelves and maybe a peninsula so that there are places to hide. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank. I think the dimentions of my tank are 36" long x 18" wide x 21" tall. I will be running a mag 7 return pump and have a Hydor Koralia Evolution Aquarium Circulation Pump, 850 GPH. I'm interested what you think of this list...

2 firefish
2 clowns
1 Royal Gramma Basslet
1 Red/Green or spotted mandarin
1 Papuan toby puffer
1 Bartlett's Anthias
A school of Blue/Green Reef Chromis
A few Four Stripe Damselfish
1 One spot foxface
1 White Tail Bristletooth Tang
Not sure how many Wrasse I can get but I really like the following:
6 line wrasse
Vrolik's Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Whipfin Fairy Wrasse

Thanks for your input!

[myownlife]

Indeed on the bubble tip hosting the clown that's what I meant.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by FsuNole

Thanks for helping us out snorvich! I'm currently building my 58 gallon and have built a 20 gallon sump for it as well. I just ordered 60 lbs of dry rock and 40 lbs of sand. I will be seeding it with a piece of live rock once my structure is built... I'm thinking of doing arches with shelves and maybe a peninsula so that there are places to hide. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank. I think the dimentions of my tank are 36" long x 18" wide x 21" tall. I will be running a mag 7 return pump and have a Hydor Koralia Evolution Aquarium Circulation Pump, 850 GPH. I'm interested what you think of this list...

2 firefish unless this a bonded, male plus female pair, only one will survive long term
2 clowns depending on species, they may command 25-50 gallons of tank space once sexually mature
1 Royal Gramma Basslet
1 Red/Green or spotted mandarin needs a larger tank
1 Papuan toby puffer will nip on fins of tank mates
1 Bartlett's Anthias needs a larger tank
A school of Blue/Green Reef Chromis needs a much larger tank and they will not "school"; also these have been coming in less than healthy in recent times with uronema symptoms
A few Four Stripe Damselfish very aggressive, will terrorize most water column fish in this sized tank
1 One spot foxface needs a larger tank
1 White Tail Bristletooth Tang needs a larger tank
Not sure how many Wrasse I can get but I really like the following:
6 line wrasse very aggressive, not compatibile with a dragonette
Vrolik's Wrasse
Christmas Wrasse
Whipfin Fairy Wrasse

Unfortunately, this is way too many fish for this sized tank

Thanks for your input!

[cbass488]

55 gallon. Remora Pro S skimmer. No sump, have a Fluval 305 for mech. filtration. Aquaclear 70 converted into a small refugium. A few LPS and 1 softie so far. Assorted snails and a peppermint shrimp for cuc.

Current residents:
1 Banggai Cardinal
1 Tank bred Ocelleris Clown
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Six Line Wrasse

Would still like to add:
1 Royal Gramma
1 Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any issues you can see? Thanks in advance!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by cbass488

55 gallon. Remora Pro S skimmer. No sump, have a Fluval 305 for mech. filtration. Aquaclear 70 converted into a small refugium. A few LPS and 1 softie so far. Assorted snails and a peppermint shrimp for cuc.

Current residents:
1 Banggai Cardinal
1 Tank bred Ocelleris Clown
1 Yellow Watchman Goby
1 Six Line Wrasse

Would still like to add:
1 Royal Gramma
1 Flame Angel
1 Lawnmower Blenny

Any issues you can see? Thanks in advance!

The sixline wrasse may have issue with the Gramma loretto

[cbass488]

Thank-you.

The six line is still very small, and I hope the Gramma shows up at the lfs soon. Hope adding them young will reduce the chance of aggression, but thank-you. I will watch closely for issues.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by cbass488

Thank-you.

The six line is still very small, and I hope the Gramma shows up at the lfs soon. Hope adding them young will reduce the chance of aggression, but thank-you. I will watch closely for issues.

Unfortunately, that is not the case. As fish mature their perceived territorial imperative expands.

[Baltimore Bryan]

55 gallon with 20 gallon sump, DIY skimmer, plenty of liverock and DSB in sump. Probably fish only, maybe some softies and macroalgae, but definitely no SPS.
3 green chromis
2 clownfish (either occ, perc, or saddleback)
1 dwarf angelfish (probably flame, coral beauty, or elibi)
1 carpenter's flasher wrasse
1 mandarin dragonete
Possibly either a royal gramma or a female carpenter's flasher wrasse

Thanks in advance, very helpful thread.
Bryan

[ucdcrew]

75g w/ 20g long sump (48 inch tank)

1x - One Spot Foxface Rabbitfish
1x - Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
1x - Kaudern's Cardinal

[nanomania]

Here is the approx stock list for my 125g..... some are optional, so might not add at all... also would like to know the order of adding fish...

GBTA 2
Oc. Clown 2
Sebae Clown 2
Chromis 4to6
Blue devil Damsel 4to6 optional
Bangai Cardinal 2
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1
Sailfin Tang 1 optional
Fire goby 2to3
Purple goby 2
****** trigger/blue throat 1 optional
Hardy Anthias 4to6
Bicolour blenny 1
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Fuzzy dwarf lion 1
a dwarf lobster 1
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Non aggressive wrasses 3 optional
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1
Possibly more schooling small fish

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Baltimore Bryan

55 gallon with 20 gallon sump, DIY skimmer, plenty of liverock and DSB in sump. Probably fish only, maybe some softies and macroalgae, but definitely no SPS.
3 green chromis will become one; also, have been coming in unhealthy with uronema symptoms
2 clownfish (either occ, perc, or saddleback) the first two would work, the latter would be very aggressive once sexually mature
1 dwarf angelfish (probably flame, coral beauty, or elibi)
1 carpenter's flasher wrasse
1 mandarin dragonete needs a larger tank
Possibly either a royal gramma or a female carpenter's flasher wrasse

Thanks in advance, very helpful thread.
Bryan

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ucdcrew

75g w/ 20g long sump (48 inch tank)

1x - One Spot Foxface Rabbitfish
1x - Carpenter Flasher Wrasse
1x - Kaudern's Cardinal

should be fine

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nanomania

Here is the approx stock list for my 125g..... some are optional, so might not add at all... also would like to know the order of adding fish...

GBTA 2
Oc. Clown 2 only one pair of clownfish
Sebae Clown 2 only one pair of clownfish, these are aggressive
Chromis 4to6 will become one or at most two over time
Blue devil Damsel 4to6 optional skip, very aggressive
Bangai Cardinal 2 must be tank raised; male plus female only
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1 needs larger tank
Sailfin Tang 1 optional COLOR="Magenta"]needs larger tank[/COLOR]
Fire goby 2to3 only one will survive long term unless they are a bonded pair
Purple goby 2
****** trigger/blue throat 1 optional skip
Hardy Anthias 4to6 which species
Bicolour blenny 1 only one blenny
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Fuzzy dwarf lion 1 skip; will eat fish
a dwarf lobster 1 not reef or fish safe
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Non aggressive wrasses 3 optional
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1
Possibly more schooling small fish

This is way too many fish, please reduce to a realistic stocking plan

[hawks66]

Here's the plan 90g tank. plan on adding the groups about a month to 6 weeks apart.
group 1,
2 ocellaris clowns
1 blue chromis

group 2
green clown goby
yellow tang
pink spotted watchman goby

group 3
Melanurus Wrasse

group 4
flame angel
coral beauty


6-9 months later
green mandarin (any difference between Male and Female?)

[apolloreef]

Beginner trying to plan out a 20g long tank. The tank will have 2 powerheads and a HOB converted to a refugium (aquaclear 70). About 20 lbs of rock, 2/3 introduced as live. Eventually will add a couple of easy corals, but startign FOWLR.

I am looking at a combo of the following fish:
Ocellaris Clown (maybe a pair)
Firefish
Small Species of Shrimp Goby (plus shrimp)
Tailspot Blenny
Clown or Citron Goby

**I've had people suggest a midas blenny, but it seems like it would be too large. I am trying to stay with small/mostly non-aggressive fish.

In addition, would it be better to swap out any of these fish for a Royal Gramma?

The tank will also have a robust snail cleanup crew. I've been told to stick to a need-only basis with emerald crabs. On the fence whether a couple micro hermits are a good idea or not.