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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by hawks66

Here's the plan 90g tank. plan on adding the groups about a month to 6 weeks apart.
group 1,
2 ocellaris clowns
1 blue chromis

group 2
green clown goby
yellow tang
pink spotted watchman goby

group 3
Melanurus Wrasse

group 4
flame angel
coral beauty


6-9 months later
green mandarin (any difference between Male and Female?)

This should be fine. A male mandarin and female mandarin have the same behavioral pattern; the male has a spiked dorsal fin whereas the female has a rounded one.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by apolloreef

Beginner trying to plan out a 20g long tank. The tank will have 2 powerheads and a HOB converted to a refugium (aquaclear 70). About 20 lbs of rock, 2/3 introduced as live. Eventually will add a couple of easy corals, but startign FOWLR.

I am looking at a combo of the following fish:
Ocellaris Clown (maybe a pair) A single will become female and two will become male and female; they really need a bit larger tank
Firefish introduce first
Small Species of Shrimp Goby (plus shrimp)
Tailspot Blenny
Clown or Citron Goby

In a 20 gallon tank, I suggest skipping the clownfish and going with the other fish in your plan

**I've had people suggest a midas blenny, but it seems like it would be too large. I am trying to stay with small/mostly non-aggressive fish. A midas blenny is a bit aggressive towards water column fish

In addition, would it be better to swap out any of these fish for a Royal Gramma? If you swap out the clownfish (or pair) for this one it would be an excellent idea

The tank will also have a robust snail cleanup crew. I've been told to stick to a need-only basis with emerald crabs. On the fence whether a couple micro hermits are a good idea or not.

Hermit crabs kill snails for their shells so pick one or the other

[apolloreef]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Hermit crabs kill snails for their shells so pick one or the other

Would a Dottyback or Royal Gramma be more appropriate for this setup (I have been recommended both, but the info and looks seems fairly similar).

Can Hermit Crab aggression be curbed by ample empty shells?

One last question, thanks for answering these stocking questions. Would a coral that hosts a clown/pair help the tank accommodate them? Or will their behavior remain mostly unchanged?

[Stepho725]

10g tank with hob filter full of chaeto and 10lb rock.

Could i keep a long-horned blenny in there with an emerald crab and a couple hermits? Maybe a firefish too?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by apolloreef

Would a Dottyback or Royal Gramma be more appropriate for this setup (I have been recommended both, but the info and looks seems fairly similar).

Again, this is a small tank, so do not load it up with fish. However a royal gramma is much less aggressive than any dottyback.


Can Hermit Crab aggression be curbed by ample empty shells?

No.

One last question, thanks for answering these stocking questions. Would a coral that hosts a clown/pair help the tank accommodate them? Or will their behavior remain mostly unchanged?

First you can not decide what clownfish will associate with, but if they choose to associate with a coral, they may damage or kill it

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Stepho725

10g tank with hob filter full of chaeto and 10lb rock.

Could i keep a long-horned blenny in there with an emerald crab and a couple hermits? Maybe a firefish too?

One fish at the most in a 10 gallon tank. However not any type of blenny; they require a larger tank.

[cab395]

Hello.

I have a 38 gallon aquarium, no sump, Reef Octopus HoB skimmer, carbon/GFO reactor, 40+ lbs drive rock that I'm going to use to cycle with (don't want hitch hikers), and about an inch of sand.

This is my first marine aquarium. I plan to keep both fish and corals, but easy to keep things at first. Haven't thought about corals at all, but don't want to cover them in this post. Fish stocking list is below, let me know what you think, and what order to add them. Clowns are territorial, so add them later, correct? Or would it be okay to add them first? Also, add the CUC right after cycle is finished, correct?

For CUC, this pack for the 38 gallon aquarium from reef cleaners:

http://www.reefcleaners.org/index.ph...mart&Itemid=34

2 x Ocellaris Clownfish (tank bred)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby
1 x Pistol shrimp
1 x Bicolor Pseudochromis
1 x Spotted Cardinalfish
1 x Dwarf Angelfish (Don't know which one)

I don't really want much aggression at all and am looking for a stock list that's going to dazzle me without giving me a headache from beating each other up. How's this list looking?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by cab395

Hello.

I have a 38 gallon aquarium, no sump, Reef Octopus HoB skimmer, carbon/GFO reactor, 40+ lbs drive rock that I'm going to use to cycle with (don't want hitch hikers), and about an inch of sand.

This is my first marine aquarium. I plan to keep both fish and corals, but easy to keep things at first. Haven't thought about corals at all, but don't want to cover them in this post. Fish stocking list is below, let me know what you think, and what order to add them. Clowns are territorial, so add them later, correct? Or would it be okay to add them first? Also, add the CUC right after cycle is finished, correct?

For CUC, this pack for the 38 gallon aquarium from reef cleaners:

http://www.reefcleaners.org/index.ph...mart&Itemid=34

As this thread is only about marine fish compatibility, that subject is beyond the scope of this thread

2 x Ocellaris Clownfish (tank bred)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby
1 x Pistol shrimp
1 x Bicolor Pseudochromis These are aggressive, especially in a small tank
1 x Spotted Cardinalfish
1 x Dwarf Angelfish (Don't know which one)

I don't really want much aggression at all and am looking for a stock list that's going to dazzle me without giving me a headache from beating each other up. How's this list looking?

[Lizitty]

I have a 44 gallon, with 20 lbs live rock right now, planning on adding more as I find pieces that fit nicely. I haven't done a skimmer or anything at this point with this being my first tank and I'm still learning as I go.

I have 2 ocellaris clown and one Blue Spotted Puffer. I just have a skunk shrimp in my CUC right now, and have discovered two asterina star, not sure if and how I will pull them.

I am looking at some angels, and dottybacks, but I would love some suggestions on beginner fish that will make my learning process ease into the harder to care for fish.

I would love to get a 100+ gallon tank once I figure this saltwater thing out

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Lizitty

I have a 44 gallon, with 20 lbs live rock right now, planning on adding more as I find pieces that fit nicely. I haven't done a skimmer or anything at this point with this being my first tank and I'm still learning as I go.

I have 2 ocellaris clown and one Blue Spotted Puffer.

Needs a slightly larger tank and is not invertebrate safe

I just have a skunk shrimp in my CUC right now, and have discovered two asterina star, not sure if and how I will pull them.

I am looking at some angels, and dottybacks, but I would love some suggestions on beginner fish that will make my learning process ease into the harder to care for fish.

Dottybacks are aggressive and may preclude other tank mates; one small (dwarf) angel in this sized tank

I would love to get a 100+ gallon tank once I figure this saltwater thing out

[Lizitty]

Are there any recommendations on literature for fish? The web has such varying answers compared to the LFS. And now I'm concerned about my puffer

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Lizitty

Are there any recommendations on literature for fish? The web has such varying answers compared to the LFS. And now I'm concerned about my puffer

For generally accurate information, look at the Live Aquaria Web Site under Marine Fish. Gives you tank size, feeding, and other information.

[cab395]

Originally Posted by snorvich

2x Ocellaris Clownfish (tank bred)
1 x Yellow Watchman Goby
1 x Pistol shrimp
1 x Royal gramma
1 x Spotted Cardinalfish
1 x Dwarf Angelfish (Don't know which one)

I don't really want much aggression at all and am looking for a stock list that's going to dazzle me without giving me a headache from beating each other up. How's this list looking?

How about now? I've changed the bicolor pseudochromis to a royal gramma. Any better?

[nanomania]

Originally Posted by snorvich

This is way too many fish, please reduce to a realistic stocking plan

Renew:

GBTA
Oc. Clown 2
Chromis 4to6
Bangai Cardinal 2
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1
Fire goby 1
Purple goby 2
Hardy Anthias 4to6 bicolour or lyretail
Bicolour blenny 1
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1

Can u suggest me some schooling fish? and if i keep 2 bta, wud still keeping 2 pairs of clown creat trouble?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by cab395

How about now? I've changed the bicolor pseudochromis to a royal gramma. Any better?

Looks good.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nanomania

Renew:

GBTA
Oc. Clown 2
Chromis 4to6
Bangai Cardinal 2
Yellow Tang 1
Regal Tang 1
Fire goby 1
Purple goby 2
Hardy Anthias 4to6 bicolour or lyretail
Bicolour blenny 1
Lawnmower Blenny 1
Royal gramma baslet 1
Hardy Dwarf angels 2
butterfly 1
Shrimps 4
Urchins 1
Snails 24
Porceline crabs 3
black Sea cucumber 1
Longfin Bannerfish 1
Foxface Lo 1
purple tang 1
gobies 3
Sand shifting star 1
Matted file fish 1

Can u suggest me some schooling fish? and if i keep 2 bta, wud still keeping 2 pairs of clown creat trouble?

Better. However, you still need to reduce the number of fish, especially large fish which inhabit the same ecological niche. Until you do that, it will not be a good usage of my time to analyze behavioral issues.

[SaltWaterAdam]

40 gallon DT, 30 gallon sump with fuge, bubble magus skimmer, danger mag 7, live rock, would like to eventually get an anemone and maybe some acro.

Starting with some axil chromis
Royal gramma
Midas goby
Neon blue goby
Fire fish
False percula last, I heard they are aggressive if introduced first

Quantities would be appreciated. I plan on a 6 to 9 month introduction. I've got a quarantine tank as well. Thanks guys!

[nanomania]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Better. However, you still need to reduce the number of fish, especially large fish which inhabit the same ecological niche. Until you do that, it will not be a good usage of my time to analyze behavioral issues.

I can remove foxface.... basically im looking to include all the diff. colours with hardiness of fish.... i dont want any delicate fishes and non to semi agressive, with some schooling fishes.....

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by SaltWaterAdam

40 gallon DT, 30 gallon sump with fuge, bubble magus skimmer, danger mag 7, live rock, would like to eventually get an anemone and maybe some acro.

Starting with some axil chromis
Royal gramma
Midas goby will nip on fins of water column fish
Neon blue goby short lived
Fire fish introduce first
False percula last, I heard they are aggressive if introduced first

A. ocellaris will be aggressive once sexually differentiated either as a pair or as a single which will become female.

Quantities would be appreciated. in your sized tank, 6-8 behaviorally compatible small fish


I plan on a 6 to 9 month introduction. I've got a quarantine tank as well. Thanks guys! this thread is only answered by reef central staff; if you want generally discussion, start your own thread

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nanomania

I can remove foxface.... basically im looking to include all the diff. colours with hardiness of fish.... i dont want any delicate fishes and non to semi agressive, with some schooling fishes.....

First of all, no fish will school in your sized tank; anthias will "shoal" (aggregate to some degree) but some types of anthias require more "attention" and care than others. Mixing fish in a community tank is not a function of coloration it is a behavioral compatibility issue. If you have multiple fish occupying the same ecological niche, you will need a larger tank since their territorial needs will increase as they mature. A single fish in a given ecological niche may be totally nonaggressive whereas more than one or many many have aggressive tendencies. An easy example of this would be tangs and conspecifics. It may be that this thread is not going to fulfill your needs or expectations.

[apolloreef]

Redid my list a little bit after deciding to go with a 29g with a HOB refug.

Water Column:
-False Percula Clown (maybe a pair since they will stick close)
-Smallest Species of Flasher or Fairy Wrasse (reef safe)
-Royal Gramma

Rock/Sandbed:
-Clown or Citron Goby
-Tailspot Blenny
-Possibly a small species of shrimp goby + shrimp

+CUC inverts

(Maybe switching in a Firefish)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by apolloreef

Redid my list a little bit after deciding to go with a 29g with a HOB refug.

Water Column:
-False Percula Clown (maybe a pair since they will stick close)
-Smallest Species of Flasher or Fairy Wrasse (reef safe) Either fairy or flasher wrasses need a larger tank
-Royal Gramma

Rock/Sandbed:
-Clown or Citron Goby
-Tailspot Blenny
-Possibly a small species of shrimp goby + shrimp

Except as noted, should be fine

+CUC inverts

(Maybe switching in a Firefish)

[Fish_King_25]

I have a 29g mixed reef...softies and LPS mostly...nothing in tank currently except about 8 Nassa snails, and 2 large turbos..I am planning a stock list and wanted to get some feedback...

1. Black ocellaris clownfish
2. Helfrichis or purple firefish
3. Yasha goby
4. Lemon peel angel

Thanks in advance for your time!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Fish_King_25

I have a 29g mixed reef...softies and LPS mostly...nothing in tank currently except about 8 Nassa snails, and 2 large turbos..I am planning a stock list and wanted to get some feedback...

1. Black ocellaris clownfish
2. Helfrichis or purple firefish Introduce first; be aware that they are prolific jumpers and need 1/4 inch mesh cover
3. Yasha goby
4. Lemon peel angel Introduce last

Thanks in advance for your time!

Stocking list is fine; note suggestions on order

[Arnel0387]

Hi Steve,

I have a 40gallon tall aquarium connected to a 110 gallon display tank and a 60 gallon sump with refugium, with about 150lbs of live rock total. Right now, the only animal in my 40 gallon is a green mandarin dragonet, that is eating frozen food and pellets!

So I plan on having the following animals in the 40 gallon:

1. Green mandarin dragonet (frozen food-and pellet-trained )
2. Tail spot blenny
3. Sharknose goby
4. Coral banded shrimp

Your thoughts?


Thank you