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[nitr8]

[QUOTE=Sk8r;19259358]Give us your size of tank, and type of water treatment (filter/live rock, sump y/n?)

90g 36 x 24 x 24
Skimmer, CA reactor, Sump, Refugium, GFO reactor, Carbon reactor, Kalk reactor
60-70 lbs of Marco rock
Tank is still cycling. Set-up a little over a month ago.

Here is what I would like to add over the next year or so. Let me know what you think. I know some are known jumpers so I'll have to get a screen top.

1.) Yasha Goby w/Randalls Pistol Shrimp
2.) Banggai Cardinal
3.) Royal Gramma Basslet
4.) Orange Spot Blenny
5.) Purple Tile Fish
6.) Fire Fish
7.) Red Mandarin Dragonet
8.) Blue Spot Jawfish
9.) Blotched Anthias
10.) Ventralis Anthias Harem

[snorvich]

[QUOTE=nitr8;21816734]

Originally Posted by Sk8r

Give us your size of tank, and type of water treatment (filter/live rock, sump y/n?)

90g 36 x 24 x 24
Skimmer, CA reactor, Sump, Refugium, GFO reactor, Carbon reactor, Kalk reactor
60-70 lbs of Marco rock
Tank is still cycling. Set-up a little over a month ago.

Here is what I would like to add over the next year or so. Let me know what you think. I know some are known jumpers so I'll have to get a screen top.

1.) Yasha Goby w/Randalls Pistol Shrimp
2.) Banggai Cardinal
3.) Royal Gramma Basslet
4.) Orange Spot Blenny
5.) Purple Tile Fish
6.) Fire Fish
7.) Red Mandarin Dragonet
8.) Blue Spot Jawfish does best long term in cooler temperatures: 70-74F
9.) Blotched Anthias
10.) Ventralis Anthias Harem difficult and needs a larger tank

[msderganc]

Hi Steve,

I'm migrating my two current tanks to a 190g tank, 60x27x27 and I'm playing around with the stocking list. I've broken it down into three parts: the fish I currently have, the next set I plan on introducing, and then the last set. I'm thinking about doing them somewhere around a month apart. I plan on keeping a mix of corals, but SPS heavy (there will be LPS and softies as well).

I'd like a peaceful community tank, but I really want a flame angel. I do realize this is heavy stocking, but I'm guessing you might recommend against a few.

Phase 1 (current fish / inverts)
Common Name - Scientific Name - Quantity
False Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris - 2
Blue Chromis - Chromis viridis - 1
Yellow Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus cinctus - 1
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata amboinensis - 1
Sexy Anemone Shrimp - Thor amboinensis - 2
Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata debelius - 1
Bubble Tip Anemone - Entacmaea quadricolor - 2
Red Linckia Star - Linckia laevigata - 1
Peppermint Shrimp - Lysmata wurdemanni complex - 1

Phase 2 (first addition)
Red Firefish - Nemateleotris magnifica - 1
Purple Firefish - Nemateleotris decora - 1
Macneill's Assessor - Assessor macneilli - 1
Yellow Assessor - Assessor flavissimus - 1
Yellow Tang - Zebrasoma flavescens - 3
One Spot Foxface - Siganus unimaculatus - 1
Blue Tang - Paracanthurus hepatus - 1
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse - Paracheilinus carpenteri - 1
Six Line Wrasse - Pseudocheilinus hexataenia - 1
Kaudern's Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni - 3
Royal Gramma - Gramma loreto - 1
Heniochus B&W Butterflyfish - Heniochus acuminata - 1
Bartlett's Anthias - Pseudanthias bartlettorum - 2

Phase 3 (second addition)
Flame Angelfish - Centropyge loriculus - 1

Thanks for your help!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by msderganc

Hi Steve,

I'm migrating my two current tanks to a 190g tank, 60x27x27 and I'm playing around with the stocking list. I've broken it down into three parts: the fish I currently have, the next set I plan on introducing, and then the last set. I'm thinking about doing them somewhere around a month apart. I plan on keeping a mix of corals, but SPS heavy (there will be LPS and softies as well).

I'd like a peaceful community tank, but I really want a flame angel. I do realize this is heavy stocking, but I'm guessing you might recommend against a few.

Phase 1 (current fish / inverts)
Common Name - Scientific Name - Quantity
False Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris - 2
Blue Chromis - Chromis viridis - 1
Yellow Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus cinctus - 1
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata amboinensis - 1
Sexy Anemone Shrimp - Thor amboinensis - 2
Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata debelius - 1
Bubble Tip Anemone - Entacmaea quadricolor - 2
Red Linckia Star - Linckia laevigata - 1
Peppermint Shrimp - Lysmata wurdemanni complex - 1

Phase 2 (first addition)
Red Firefish - Nemateleotris magnifica - 1 two firefish are unlikely to survive long term; a bonded pair of the same species could
Purple Firefish - Nemateleotris decora - 1
Macneill's Assessor - Assessor macneilli - 1
Yellow Assessor - Assessor flavissimus - 1
Yellow Tang - Zebrasoma flavescens - 3 three of this species, especially in a six foot tank is not going to be stable; even one zebrasoma species must be last fish added
One Spot Foxface - Siganus unimaculatus - 1
Blue Tang - Paracanthurus hepatus - 1 needs a longer tank, at least 8 foot
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse - Paracheilinus carpenteri - 1
Six Line Wrasse - Pseudocheilinus hexataenia - 1 problematic with firefish or flasher wrasses
Kaudern's Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni - 3 only two is stable, and only if a male plus female pair; should be tank raised
Royal Gramma - Gramma loreto - 1
Heniochus B&W Butterflyfish - Heniochus acuminata - 1
Bartlett's Anthias - Pseudanthias bartlettorum - 2

Phase 3 (second addition)
Flame Angelfish - Centropyge loriculus - 1 not coral safe

Thanks for your help!

[msderganc]

Originally Posted by msderganc

Hi Steve,

I'm migrating my two current tanks to a 190g tank, 60x27x27 and I'm playing around with the stocking list. I've broken it down into three parts: the fish I currently have, the next set I plan on introducing, and then the last set. I'm thinking about doing them somewhere around a month apart. I plan on keeping a mix of corals, but SPS heavy (there will be LPS and softies as well).

I'd like a peaceful community tank, but I really want a flame angel. I do realize this is heavy stocking, but I'm guessing you might recommend against a few.

Phase 1 (current fish / inverts)
Common Name - Scientific Name - Quantity
False Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris - 2
Blue Chromis - Chromis viridis - 1
Yellow Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus cinctus - 1
Skunk Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata amboinensis - 1
Sexy Anemone Shrimp - Thor amboinensis - 2
Scarlet Cleaner Shrimp - Lysmata debelius - 1
Bubble Tip Anemone - Entacmaea quadricolor - 2
Red Linckia Star - Linckia laevigata - 1
Peppermint Shrimp - Lysmata wurdemanni complex - 1

Phase 2 (first addition)
Purple Firefish - Nemateleotris decora - 1
Macneill's Assessor - Assessor macneilli - 1
Yellow Assessor - Assessor flavissimus - 1
One Spot Foxface - Siganus unimaculatus - 1
Blue Tang - Paracanthurus hepatus - 1
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse - Paracheilinus carpenteri - 1
Kaudern's Cardinal - Pterapogon kauderni - 2
Royal Gramma - Gramma loreto - 1
Heniochus B&W Butterflyfish - Heniochus acuminata - 1
Bartlett's Anthias - Pseudanthias bartlettorum - 2
Yellowtail Blue Damsel - Chrysiptera parasema - 3

Phase 3 (second addition)
Yellow Tang - Zebrasoma flavescens - 1

Thanks for your help!

Updated with your recommendations and I added the Blue Damsels. I do plan on getting as many tank raised fish as I can.

Two questions though - could you explain about the Yellow Tangs not being stable? Do you think that this livestock load is too high (19 fish, 8 inverts)?

Thanks again. This thread is the best thread on the internet for anyone in the reef community, and you do an amazing job.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by msderganc

Updated with your recommendations and I added the Blue Damsels. I do plan on getting as many tank raised fish as I can.

blue damsels are aggressive, and may be a problem for algae eaters

Two questions though - could you explain about the Yellow Tangs not being stable?

As fish mature, their territorial imperative increases as they "broaden their horizons" (I hate to anthropomorphize, but you get the idea); zebrasoma tangs tend to be territorial, especially once established, so while they may tolerate conspecifics when immature, their tolerance decreases as they mature and "claim" territories. A five foot tank is not long enough for mature fish of this type to have appropriate territories; when fish feel crowded, they reduce the crowding. That is why we always ask tank length rather than tank gallonage when analyzing compatibility.

Do you think that this livestock load is too high (19 fish, 8 inverts)? I think that the number of fish in the same ecological niche is heavier than desirable (algae eaters that are on the largish side) but inverts do not contribute to bioload in any significant fashion

Thanks again. This thread is the best thread on the internet for anyone in the reef community, and you do an amazing job.

Thanks very much. We want each of the readers to be successful with their tank(s) since that is the only way we measure the success of this thread.

[Oceanminded]

55 gal long with 55 lbs live rock

What about this:
Citron & green clown gobies
Tribal blenny
Diamond watchman goby
Pair of ocellaris clowns
Single/Pair/Trio pajama cardinals (not sure how they are best kept)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Oceanminded

55 gal with 55 lbs live rock

What about this:
Citron & green clown gobies only one in this sized tank
Tribal blenny
Diamond watchman goby
Pair of ocellaris clowns
Single/Pair/Trio pajama cardinals (not sure how they are best kept) your choice of one, two, or three, but be aware that your clown goby may be at risk

otherwise looks fine

[Oceanminded]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oceanminded
55 gal with 55 lbs live rock

What about this:
Citron & green clown gobies only one in this sized tank
Tribal blenny
Diamond watchman goby
Pair of ocellaris clowns
Single/Pair/Trio pajama cardinals (not sure how they are best kept) your choice of one, two, or three, but be aware that your clown goby may be at risk
otherwise looks fine

What would you suggest for colorful fish which will hang out in the water column but not threaten my clown goby?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Oceanminded

What would you suggest for colorful fish which will hang out in the water column but not threaten my clown goby?

As those who follow this thread know, I do not provide recommendations for a variety of reasons. I am always happy to reanalyze any stocking plan for compatibility, however.

[Reef noob_]

I'm setting up a 10 gallon and was wondering what I should/ can put in it. Is possible can I have inverts and fish and for fish I was thinking like 2-4 or so yellowtail blue damsels or 2 clowns or 2-4 fire fish. Please help out as this is my first ever reef and I want to do it right. Thanks in advance!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Reef noob_

I'm setting up a 10 gallon and was wondering what I should/ can put in it. Is possible can I have inverts and fish and for fish I was thinking like 2-4 or so yellowtail blue damsels or 2 clowns or 2-4 fire fish. Please help out as this is my first ever reef and I want to do it right. Thanks in advance!

Unfortunately in a 10 gallon tank, you can only have one small fish.

[Dissy]

55 gallon FOWLR, bare bottom, 60lbs live rock, hob skimmer

Blue Tuxedo Urchin
Coral Beauty
Lemonpeel Angel
6-Line Wrasse
Banggai Cardinal (3)
Purple Firefish
FLasher Wrasse

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Dissy

55 gallon FOWLR, bare bottom, 60lbs live rock, hob skimmer

Blue Tuxedo Urchin
Coral Beauty two dwarf angels in this sized tank is marginal
Lemonpeel Angel
6-Line Wrasse aggressive, will intimidate firefish and flasher wrasse
Banggai Cardinal (3) only a male plus female, ideally tank bred for likelihood of success
Purple Firefish
FLasher Wrasse

you have several fish that will require 1/4 inch mesh topping; and oh, by the way, FOWLR precludes invertebrates which is why it is fish ONLY

[Noltron]

Hello, longtime freshwater guy trying saltwater for the first time. System specs:

55 gallon long tank (48x13x20) with 10-gallon sump
75 lbs. of live rock, 3" live sand bed, HOB refugium with live sand/live rock/chaeto
Reef Octopus 4" pinwheel in-sump protein skimmer

Hopeful stocking list:

3x Blue/Green Reef Chromis - Chromis viridis
1x Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish - Forcipiger flavissimus (tank too small? Some sites say 50 gallons, some say 125, Fenner is unclear)
1x Hoeven's Wrasse - Halichoeres melanurus
1x Bicolor Blenny - Ecsenius bicolor
1x Ocellaris Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris
1x Flame Angelfish - Centropyge loriculus

If the stocking list is appropriate, is this the proper order for introduction? Thank you in advance - I appreciate your help!

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Noltron

Hello, longtime freshwater guy trying saltwater for the first time. System specs:

55 gallon long tank (48x13x20) with 10-gallon sump
75 lbs. of live rock, 3" live sand bed, HOB refugium with live sand/live rock/chaeto
Reef Octopus 4" pinwheel in-sump protein skimmer

Hopeful stocking list:

3x Blue/Green Reef Chromis - Chromis viridis will become one or at most two over time; also they have been coming in less than healthy with uronema like symptoms
1x Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish - Forcipiger flavissimus (tank too small? Some sites say 50 gallons, some say 125, Fenner is unclear) preferred minimum tank size is 125 gallons
1x Hoeven's Wrasse - Halichoeres melanurus
1x Bicolor Blenny - Ecsenius bicolor
1x Ocellaris Clownfish - Amphiprion ocellaris
1x Flame Angelfish - Centropyge loriculus

If the stocking list is appropriate, is this the proper order for introduction? Thank you in advance - I appreciate your help!

except as noted, you should be fine. Order is also fine.

[Mark9]

still working on getting the tank setup, but I'm pretty sure I know what I want in it, beginner fish.

29 gallon with a 10 gallon sump, 25 lbs or so live rock

2 ocellaris clowns
1 firefish
1 royal grammar
1 six line

is that too much? was hoping for a hawkfish as well.

[DRRosen3]

90 Gallon 48" X 18" X 24"
30 Gallon Sump w/ Skimmer
100+ lbs. live rock.

Over the next year I'm looking to add the following (not necessarily in this order):

1. Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris)
2. Bluehead Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura)
3. Blue Spot Jawfish (Opistognathus rosenblatti)
4. Velvet Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus)
5. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri)
6. Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus filamentosus)
7. Richmond's Wrasse (Halichoeres richmondi)
8. Lime Green Wrasse (Thalassoma lutescens)
9. Klunzinger's Wrasse (Thalassoma rueppellii)

After my tank has had time to mature (and my pod levels grow and steady) I'm looking to add these two last:

10. Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus)
11. Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)

EDIT - If there are any suggestions for order in which to add the first 9 fish listed please feel free to share the order (and reasons for placement)! Thanks! Oh...and I suppose it may be worth mentioning this is FOWLR right now but I do have plans to add corals in the near future.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Mark9

still working on getting the tank setup, but I'm pretty sure I know what I want in it, beginner fish.

There is no real thing as beginner fish in a tank that has been cycled. What you select, will hopefully be with you as long as you own the tank.

29 gallon with a 10 gallon sump, 25 lbs or so live rock

2 ocellaris clowns
1 firefish
1 royal grammar
1 six line aggressive and will not do well with the other fish such as a firefish or gramma loretto. Hawkfish are great but are not shrimp safe.

is that too much? was hoping for a hawkfish as well.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by DRRosen3

90 Gallon 48" X 18" X 24"
30 Gallon Sump w/ Skimmer
100+ lbs. live rock.

Over the next year I'm looking to add the following (not necessarily in this order):

you have a LOT of prolific jumpers so you will need 1/4 inch mesh tightly closed top

1. Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris) difficult
2. Bluehead Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus cyanopleura) while this fish has a minimum tank size of 90 gallons, that presumes less conspecifics than you are planning. If you want those, a larger tank is desirable
3. Blue Spot Jawfish (Opistognathus rosenblatti) needs cooler temperatures e.g. 70-74F for long term success
4. Velvet Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus)
5. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri)
6. Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus filamentosus)
7. Richmond's Wrasse (Halichoeres richmondi)
8. Lime Green Wrasse (Thalassoma lutescens) needs larger tank and will not get along with conspecifics
9. Klunzinger's Wrasse (Thalassoma rueppellii) needs larger tank and will not get along with conspecifics

After my tank has had time to mature (and my pod levels grow and steady) I'm looking to add these two last:

10. Red Mandarin (Synchiropus cf. splendidus) even if you did not already have copepod eaters (you do), your tank size is not sufficient for both of these two fish; given that you have copepod eaters, I would not try these fish with those tank mates
11. Green Mandarin (Synchiropus splendidus)

EDIT - If there are any suggestions for order in which to add the first 9 fish listed please feel free to share the order (and reasons for placement)! Thanks! Oh...and I suppose it may be worth mentioning this is FOWLR right now but I do have plans to add corals in the near future. all are coral safe

[DRRosen3]

Alright. I've made some substitutions based on snorvich's input. Any thoughts?:

90 Gallon 48" X 18" X 24"
30 Gallon Sump w/ Skimmer
100+ lbs. live rock.

Over the next year I'm looking to add the following (not necessarily in this order):

1. Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris)
2. Ornate Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon ornatus)
3. Zebra Catalina Goby (Lythrypnus zebra)
4. Velvet Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus)
5. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri)
6. Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus filamentosus)
7. Richmond's Wrasse (Halichoeres richmondi)
8. Hardwicke Wrasse (Thalassoma hardwicke)
9. Bicolor Cleaner Wrasse (Labroides bicolor)

If there are any suggestions for order in which to add the fish listed please feel free to share the order (and reasons for placement)! Thanks! Oh...and I suppose it may be worth mentioning this is FOWLR right now but I do have plans to add corals in the near future.[/QUOTE]

[Mark9]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Originally Posted by Mark9 View Post
still working on getting the tank setup, but I'm pretty sure I know what I want in it, beginner fish.

There is no real thing as beginner fish in a tank that has been cycled. What you select, will hopefully be with you as long as you own the tank.

29 gallon with a 10 gallon sump, 25 lbs or so live rock

2 ocellaris clowns
1 firefish
1 royal grammar
1 six line aggressive and will not do well with the other fish such as a firefish or gramma loretto. Hawkfish are great but are not shrimp safe.

is that too much? was hoping for a hawkfish as well.

Thanks.
What i meant by beginner is that fish that will do well with a beginner such as I.
Once I get these fish, the tank is done.

[Latinagirl629]

Hello Everyone!

I need some guidance and help here, relatively new to the hobby. I currently have a 180 gallon tank 72x24x24 aquarium with a Red Sea C-Skim Protein Skimmer 1800, refugium sump with wetdry bio filter I believe I have one of at least 40 gallon and another of 10-15 gallons- (not 100% sure), chiller, coralife 18w uv sterilizer, and over 125lb of live rock-pretty well stocked.

Now this is the scenario, I had this setup back May- I purchased the tank used and tank came with a large yellow tang and gray yellowtail damsel. I then added 2 clownfish and 2 damsels that were sold to me as chromis. I then introduced a vlamingi, powder blue tang, scopas and Mimic Eibli tang- this is when the ICH nightmare started.

With instructions of the LFS I was treating the tank with Kick Ich- with no success the Ich got worse and slowly started losing in this order the fish:

Vlamingi
Mimic Eibli
Powder Blue Tang
Damsel

I have completely cleared the tank of all fish and have it running with just my corals:

Torch
Gonfora
Large Xenia
Flowerpot

I have done a water change of approximately 85%. Now my question is what would be the best way to begin establishing my tank to have its for fish- I was thinking of leaving the tank just on corals for approximately 10-12 weeks and of course QT all my fish when the time comes.

This was a very difficult learning experience, but rest assured I have learned to QT.

Would I be able to add corals in these few weeks, please shed some knowledge and help me stock up correctly in a reasonable manner.

As you can see based on my fish purchases I love Tangs and would like to have tangs again in the future.

I would also need assistance in learning in what order I should stock my fishes once again.

I'm very open to all suggestions/opinions/ etc.

How many fishes can I stock in a 180 gallon reef aquarium?

I would like to eventually add small and large fishes preferably tangs, can anyone help in suggesting what I could stock up with to ensure I don't stress out one another by adding them in the incorrect order.

Some of the fishes I would like to have are:

2 clowns
Blue Hippo
Yellow tang
Vlamingi
Mimic Tang
Powder Blue


Any suggestions on small colorful non aggressive fishes ?

Should corals also be QT'ed? How do you recommend setting up a Quarantine tank? Can I use a biocube 29 gallon as a Quarantine tank?

Thank you and sorry for the EXTREMELY LONG post

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by DRRosen3

Alright. I've made some substitutions based on snorvich's input. Any thoughts?:

I am really the only one answering this thread; if you want general comments, start your own thread in Reef Fish or New to the Hobby

90 Gallon 48" X 18" X 24"
30 Gallon Sump w/ Skimmer
100+ lbs. live rock.

Over the next year I'm looking to add the following (not necessarily in this order):

1. Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon meleagris)
2. Ornate Leopard Wrasse (Macropharyngodon ornatus)
3. Zebra Catalina Goby (Lythrypnus zebra) needs cold water for long term survival; remember these are endemic to California waters
4. Velvet Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus luteovittatus)
5. Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri)
6. Filamented Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus filamentosus)
7. Richmond's Wrasse (Halichoeres richmondi)
8. Hardwicke Wrasse (Thalassoma hardwicke)
9. Bicolor Cleaner Wrasse (Labroides bicolor) the only ones that tend to live are the African collected ones; however, NONE of the fish above will allow cleaning behavior

If there are any suggestions for order in which to add the fish listed please feel free to share the order (and reasons for placement)! Thanks! Oh...and I suppose it may be worth mentioning this is FOWLR right now but I do have plans to add corals in the near future.

[/QUOTE]

all are coral safe; in general, least aggressive first, most aggressive last

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Mark9

Thanks.
What i meant by beginner is that fish that will do well with a beginner such as I.
Once I get these fish, the tank is done.

Sorry, did not pick up on that. Given that, all qualify as easy. The sixline wrasse will be problematic, however.