New Lumen Bright Reflector. ... any info on them - Page 29

mitlik1 · 02/27/2008, 02:08 PM

Sounds good, so mini's instead of the full size option would be adequate. From what I read, they are so good 250 compare to other brands 400K. I think it was like $5. more for full size. Are the full size a better option than the mini's or would it defract the light more.

JRaquatics · 02/27/2008, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mitlik1
Sounds good, so mini's instead of the full size option would be adequate. From what I read, they are so good 250 compare to other brands 400K. I think it was like $5. more for full size. Are the full size a better option than the mini's or would it defract the light more.

The minis will direct more light within the tank. The larges will be hard to cram them into a canopy the size of your tank and the larges will bleed more light outside of the tank. I have the same size tank and couldn't be happier with my lighting setup.

nreefer · 02/27/2008, 02:25 PM

Do you have the mini's JRaquatics?
I think if I went with the larger ones I would overhang my eurobracing by 1" each side.

JRaquatics · 02/27/2008, 02:46 PM

Yes, I have the LB Minis.

nreefer · 02/27/2008, 02:52 PM

Ok, my rock work is only about 8-10 inches wide at the top and 19 inches wide at the bottom (32 inch deep tank) You don't think the mini's would work for me?

psteeleb · 02/27/2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by nreefer
Ok, my rock work is only about 8-10 inches wide at the top and 19 inches wide at the bottom (32 inch deep tank) You don't think the mini's would work for me?

Sounds like the minis will work fine - how wide is the tank? (sorry if I missed it in an earlier post). Your setup rock wise sounds a lot like mine. Take a look at my DFWMAS link on the page prior to this one. On page 3 of the DFWMAS link you will find a sketch of my lights using the mini's with a cross section of the intended light diffusion over and around rocks.

JRaquatics · 02/27/2008, 03:06 PM

With your tank dimentions you are better off with the larges. This will allow for the correct light spread leaving no dark areas. For the $5 extra a reflector I would really consider the Larges. Yes your rockwork is 8-10 wide but if your into SPS they always grow outwards so now your looking at 15+ inches at the top and 25+ inches at the bottom. I just think you and your reef would be happier with the LB larges IMO.

nreefer · 02/27/2008, 03:08 PM

I did check that out, nice tank! The rockwork is very similar to mine. My tank is 30 inches wide. But that includes the glass which is 3/4" I have about 5-6 inches of open gravel from the glass to were the rockwork starts. I didn't know those were the mini's. Are the DE mini's the same diamensions as the SE mini's?
I really like my DE Giesmann 14.5K bulbs so I would rather not go through changing over my ballasts to get the SE larger LB reflectors.
Also having the glass on the DE reflectors makes for easy cleaning.

How high off the water do you have your LB's mounted? (distance from water surface to top of reflector)

psteeleb · 02/27/2008, 03:27 PM

I think the DE lumabrights are only one size, 16X16X9. The large SE are like 20" and would have overhung my euro bracing. On a 30" wide tank I'd go with the larger ones to get the spread like JR indicates, that is, unless you plan to mount them real high.

If you go with the DE you're ending up with about the same size as the SE mini's (16X16X7). They also run a bit more $, I think it's because they come with the glass cover. I may be wrong as I didn't look into the DE's that much.

I think the bulb is about 12" above my water surface, so the tops are about 14". I'm getting great penetration and hardly any spill over light so I'll probably leave them there.

weap0n_X · 02/27/2008, 05:58 PM

I ordered my lighting setup from Reef Specialty today, and Mike is a great guy to deal with. I cant wait until they arrive.

Here's what I ordered: Lumenbright Mini, Reeflux 12k 250w, Coralvue Ballast x3 of everything. This is for a 180g Reef.

I will post pictures as soon as they are installed.

Mohsin

JRaquatics · 02/27/2008, 06:12 PM

Weapon_x. Great choice.... I know for a fact that you will love that lighting combo.

IRISSERVICE · 02/27/2008, 07:47 PM

I got another pendent from mike for my nano...
What do you think 18"x18"x18" cube with a 250w radium and a lumen bright fixture....

JRaquatics · 02/27/2008, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IRISSERVICE
I got another pendent from mike for my nano...
What do you think 18"x18"x18" cube with a 250w radium and a lumen bright fixture....

Sounds like a super lit up nano. I hope your nano's fish have shades.

Nickde123 · 02/27/2008, 08:58 PM

and sun block lol

IRISSERVICE · 02/27/2008, 09:03 PM

i have no idea what height i will have it at, but i have a a 1/10 hp chiller installed already... so cooling should be safe...ballast is coming tm which is a IC...

jlaudiofreak · 02/27/2008, 11:32 PM

I have a question. I have a 300g measurements are 96 long X 30" front to back X 24" tall. Do you think 4 large lumenbrights about 16" off the water would do good. I have 250watt ballast if that helps

psteeleb · 02/27/2008, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlaudiofreak
I have a question. I have a 300g measurements are 96 long X 30" front to back X 24" tall. Do you think 4 large lumenbrights about 16" off the water would do good. I have 250watt ballast if that helps

yep - I would think that setup would give plenty of coverage

jlaudiofreak · 02/27/2008, 11:47 PM

I hope so I just order the refelctors and bulbs in. I am going to run reeflux 10k at first then after the corals grow out some switch to 12k or 20k

Los · 02/28/2008, 08:45 AM

1. What is the cut-off width above which Lumenarcs are recommended? I'm having a 96Lx36Wx25H tank being built. Would the Lumenbrights be recommended or is 36" wide too wide for those?

2. As of now, I'm thinking of 4 Lumenarcs and 4 x 400W Icecaps and 4 x 400w Ushio 20k, with no supplemental actinic. How does that sound?

Thanks in advance,
Los

nreefer · 02/28/2008, 08:50 AM

That is a good question, I should maybe consider getting 4 lumenarc mini's for DE bulbs instead. I know I may loose the depth punch of the LB but my PFO mini pendants do a great job as is getting deep in the tank. Also the LA would be closer to the water than the LB so I would wouldn't loose as much PAR.

psteeleb · 02/28/2008, 08:56 AM

from what I'm seeing I would think the full size Lumabrights would still give great coverage on a 36" wide tank. If you do go lumabrights I would not go with the 400s on a 25" tall tank, that is, unless you mount them fairly high. I'm getting incredible light penetration on my 36" tall tank with 250s and am seriously considering changing out my 400s to 250s

jciotti · 02/28/2008, 02:35 PM

I just ordered a Lumen Bright from Mike at Reef Specialty. I actually screwed up my order pretty bad and needed to call him to fix it this morning. Well he had called me back before I even got a chance to and had the problem fixed. If I had more then two thumbs to put up I would. If your looking for these reflectors give him a call first. Excellent customer service.

IRISSERVICE · 02/28/2008, 02:35 PM

Nano is up

sirreal63 · 02/28/2008, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psteeleb
from what I'm seeing I would think the full size Lumabrights would still give great coverage on a 36" wide tank.

Interesting...I haven't seen anything that shows LB's are a good fit for 36" coverage. Can you show me what you have seen that does show them to be a good fit for covering 36". I know of someone who just set up a 36x36 cubish tank with 2 LB's and the coverage is more like 24".

scuba71 · 02/28/2008, 02:56 PM

Any recommendations on who sells the double ended Lumen Bright reflectors?

Also any suggestions /recommendations on what ballast should I run these reflectors with? Thanks.

02/27/2008, 07:47 PM	#712
IRISSERVICE Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beechhurst,New York Posts: 620	I got another pendent from mike for my nano... What do you think 18"x18"x18" cube with a 250w radium and a lumen bright fixture.... __________________ Tank-125G Starphire Lighting- 4x 60" Reefbrites Skimmer- H&S A200-1250 MRC Sump Refugium---Circulation Tunze Wave Box---Main Pump - Seq3200 3phase W/ VFD Cooling Current Tank Info: 125 gallon Starphire euro braced

02/27/2008, 09:03 PM	#715
IRISSERVICE Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beechhurst,New York Posts: 620	i have no idea what height i will have it at, but i have a a 1/10 hp chiller installed already... so cooling should be safe...ballast is coming tm which is a IC... __________________ Tank-125G Starphire Lighting- 4x 60" Reefbrites Skimmer- H&S A200-1250 MRC Sump Refugium---Circulation Tunze Wave Box---Main Pump - Seq3200 3phase W/ VFD Cooling Current Tank Info: 125 gallon Starphire euro braced

02/28/2008, 08:45 AM	#719
Los Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Salisbury, MD - 2 hrs from DC Posts: 819	1. What is the cut-off width above which Lumenarcs are recommended? I'm having a 96Lx36Wx25H tank being built. Would the Lumenbrights be recommended or is 36" wide too wide for those? 2. As of now, I'm thinking of 4 Lumenarcs and 4 x 400W Icecaps and 4 x 400w Ushio 20k, with no supplemental actinic. How does that sound? Thanks in advance, Los __________________ ~~~~~ / ^ ^\ \| 0 0 \| .\ ~ / The Big Mo' - in honor of Trey and Matt Current Tank Info: 360 reef / 700 system with 4xSfiligoi XR6s, Sfiligoi XR4, BubbleKing 300 Deluxe Internal, Deltec PF601s, PM Kalk, Deltec FR616, Deltec FR509, AquaController APEX, Tunze 6305, 2x6205, 2x6101, 6100, 3xDart Golds, Barracuda, Snapper, 2xOceans Motions

02/28/2008, 02:35 PM	#723
IRISSERVICE Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Beechhurst,New York Posts: 620	Nano is up __________________ Tank-125G Starphire Lighting- 4x 60" Reefbrites Skimmer- H&S A200-1250 MRC Sump Refugium---Circulation Tunze Wave Box---Main Pump - Seq3200 3phase W/ VFD Cooling Current Tank Info: 125 gallon Starphire euro braced

02/28/2008, 02:56 PM	#725
scuba71 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 315	Any recommendations on who sells the double ended Lumen Bright reflectors? Also any suggestions /recommendations on what ballast should I run these reflectors with? Thanks. __________________ --Monzer Current Tank Info: 140G w/80G sump/fug - New 240G tank in progress

02/27/2008, 02:08 PM	#701
mitlik1 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oswego, IL Posts: 349	Sounds good, so mini's instead of the full size option would be adequate. From what I read, they are so good 250 compare to other brands 400K. I think it was like $5. more for full size. Are the full size a better option than the mini's or would it defract the light more.

02/27/2008, 02:25 PM	#703
nreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 362	Do you have the mini's JRaquatics? I think if I went with the larger ones I would overhang my eurobracing by 1" each side.

02/27/2008, 02:46 PM	#704
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Yes, I have the LB Minis.

02/27/2008, 02:52 PM	#705
nreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 362	Ok, my rock work is only about 8-10 inches wide at the top and 19 inches wide at the bottom (32 inch deep tank) You don't think the mini's would work for me?

02/27/2008, 03:06 PM	#707
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	With your tank dimentions you are better off with the larges. This will allow for the correct light spread leaving no dark areas. For the $5 extra a reflector I would really consider the Larges. Yes your rockwork is 8-10 wide but if your into SPS they always grow outwards so now your looking at 15+ inches at the top and 25+ inches at the bottom. I just think you and your reef would be happier with the LB larges IMO.

02/27/2008, 03:08 PM	#708
nreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 362	I did check that out, nice tank! The rockwork is very similar to mine. My tank is 30 inches wide. But that includes the glass which is 3/4" I have about 5-6 inches of open gravel from the glass to were the rockwork starts. I didn't know those were the mini's. Are the DE mini's the same diamensions as the SE mini's? I really like my DE Giesmann 14.5K bulbs so I would rather not go through changing over my ballasts to get the SE larger LB reflectors. Also having the glass on the DE reflectors makes for easy cleaning. How high off the water do you have your LB's mounted? (distance from water surface to top of reflector)

02/27/2008, 03:27 PM	#709
psteeleb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 5,249	I think the DE lumabrights are only one size, 16X16X9. The large SE are like 20" and would have overhung my euro bracing. On a 30" wide tank I'd go with the larger ones to get the spread like JR indicates, that is, unless you plan to mount them real high. If you go with the DE you're ending up with about the same size as the SE mini's (16X16X7). They also run a bit more $, I think it's because they come with the glass cover. I may be wrong as I didn't look into the DE's that much. I think the bulb is about 12" above my water surface, so the tops are about 14". I'm getting great penetration and hardly any spill over light so I'll probably leave them there.

02/27/2008, 05:58 PM	#710
weap0n_X Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: N. Virginia Posts: 393	I ordered my lighting setup from Reef Specialty today, and Mike is a great guy to deal with. I cant wait until they arrive. Here's what I ordered: Lumenbright Mini, Reeflux 12k 250w, Coralvue Ballast x3 of everything. This is for a 180g Reef. I will post pictures as soon as they are installed. Mohsin

02/27/2008, 06:12 PM	#711
JRaquatics Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On RC Posts: 3,609	Weapon_x. Great choice.... I know for a fact that you will love that lighting combo.

02/27/2008, 08:58 PM	#714
Nickde123 Moved On Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 215	and sun block lol

02/27/2008, 11:32 PM	#716
jlaudiofreak Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 525	I have a question. I have a 300g measurements are 96 long X 30" front to back X 24" tall. Do you think 4 large lumenbrights about 16" off the water would do good. I have 250watt ballast if that helps

02/27/2008, 11:47 PM	#718
jlaudiofreak Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 525	I hope so I just order the refelctors and bulbs in. I am going to run reeflux 10k at first then after the corals grow out some switch to 12k or 20k

02/28/2008, 08:50 AM	#720
nreefer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 362	That is a good question, I should maybe consider getting 4 lumenarc mini's for DE bulbs instead. I know I may loose the depth punch of the LB but my PFO mini pendants do a great job as is getting deep in the tank. Also the LA would be closer to the water than the LB so I would wouldn't loose as much PAR.

02/28/2008, 08:56 AM	#721
psteeleb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 5,249	from what I'm seeing I would think the full size Lumabrights would still give great coverage on a 36" wide tank. If you do go lumabrights I would not go with the 400s on a 25" tall tank, that is, unless you mount them fairly high. I'm getting incredible light penetration on my 36" tall tank with 250s and am seriously considering changing out my 400s to 250s

02/28/2008, 02:35 PM	#722
jciotti Moved On Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fallbrook, Ca Posts: 303	I just ordered a Lumen Bright from Mike at Reef Specialty. I actually screwed up my order pretty bad and needed to call him to fix it this morning. Well he had called me back before I even got a chance to and had the problem fixed. If I had more then two thumbs to put up I would. If your looking for these reflectors give him a call first. Excellent customer service.