is my bta dead?!? *PIC* - Page 3

uscharalph · 10/28/2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by JPReef
this is the only shrimp i got. is this stuff too processed? or should i just throw it away and get something else like freeze dried krill? or actual raw shrimp?

It has to be RAW shrimp, or any RAW seafood.

JPReef · 10/28/2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by JPReef

and for the bta, he ate a piece of raw shrimp tnite, not a very big piece but its a start. i picked up some raw shrimp from the store tonight just to try some kind of food again but im picking up some freeze dried krill and some vitamin solution tomorrow at the LFS.

please read the previous post and the ones before it. ive already threw away that cocktail shrimp and bought raw shrimp tonight. totally different shrimp.

but thanks for the advice uscharalph

xxpipedreamxx · 10/28/2007, 08:02 AM

I am a she actually, lol

It is very disheartening when someone does not appreciate my advise. I have helped several people on the anemones and clownfish forum and love to help anyone that has any issues. I don't like to see any animal in distress and just like to really make sure that people understand it is best to have a tank that is nearly a year old before introducing such a delicate species. There are water parameters that we can not check for that can definitely stress out any animal.

I understand that you are doing the best that you can now on an impulse purchase. I just wanted to see you wait quite a while before attempting another one if that one kicked the bucket.

As for the freeze dried krill, you need to be searching through the frozen foods at your LFS for silversides, large plankton, krill, mysis, squid, ect. The foods needs to be raw meat and not freeze dried. Also, if they have vitachem or selcon, that would greatly boost the nutritional value of anything you feed it.

JPReef · 10/28/2007, 12:33 PM

ok, im glad you understood i wasn't trying to be mean. so im glad thats taken care of. i did pick up some silversides, frozen mysis shrimp, and vitachem to feed him today.

now that your ok with posting in this thread again i have a question for you. since the little guy is so small should i cut the silverside in half and soak in vitachem? or should i just put the whole piece in to give to him?

ReefGirlSara · 10/28/2007, 01:54 PM

the smaller the better I think, so it doesn't have to work very hard to eat it.

xxpipedreamxx · 10/28/2007, 02:26 PM

Try for around 1/4" slices. The smaller the food, the easier it is to digest. Good choices on foods

JPReef · 10/28/2007, 08:12 PM

Well he finally ate half a silverside soaked in vitachem. and hes lookin better, keeping inflated and all. what do ya guys think?

zma21 · 10/28/2007, 08:16 PM

Good luck from here.

petoonia · 10/28/2007, 08:45 PM

Its looking better!! All you can do now is keep up with tank maintenance, and be patient. I know waiting is the worst part, but hang in there, and give it some time. Don't try to feed it to often. Also try to feed a variety of foods the more variety the better!!! I would try to feed it again in 2 or 3 days until it starts to show a lot of improvement. Then I would cut down to feeding once or twice a week. When my anemone wasn't doing well I cut the food up really really well almost shredding it, its a lot easier for the anemone to eat.

Good luck!!!

demonsp · 10/29/2007, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by xxpipedreamxx
I am going to add my two cents here... That anemone does NOT need any clowns hosting it. Especially Tomato complex clowns as they are very large and rough. They would finish it off for sure. It does not look normal IMO at all. BTA's do not live on the sand. They find a spot in the rockwork and hide their foot down inside of a crevice. No one has mentioned flow which is odd. Anemones do best with plenty of flow. The tentacles should never stop moving. The tank is way too young to support an anemone. I never reccomend anyone get one for at least a year, although most say six months. The BTA needs to be fed thawed out Krill, Silversides, Mysis, large meaty plankton, ect soaked in a vitamin supplement such as Selcon. It only needs to be fed at the most every 3 days in that condition. Never try to feed it when it is deflated either as mentioned previously.

? tomato complex clowns ? They are a 30 gal rated fish wich i think is to small but in his 75 gal i see no problem. I also agree with waiting untill your BTA is healthy if you did want to add the tomato clowns. They did aggrevate my BTA and it took time for him to adjust to the clowns. But he did.

I also think this tank by its pics doesnt appear to be readu for a BTA or much other stock. Its to clean and looks as if it needs to mature.

xxpipedreamxx · 10/29/2007, 09:26 AM

Yes there are different complexes of clownfish. Let me spell it out for you. I can go into more detail if needed.

PERCULA COMPLEX
A. ocellaris
A. percula

TOMATO COMPLEX
A. ephippium
A. melanopus
A. frenatus
A. mccullochi
A. rubrocinctus

CLARKII COMPLEX
A. akindynos
A. allardi
A. bicinctus
A. chagosensis
A. chrysogaster
A. chrysopterus
A. clarkii
A. fuscocaudatus
A. latifasciatus
A. tricinctus

SKUNK COMPLEX
A. akallopisos
A. leucokranos
A. nigripes
A. perideraion
A. sandaracinos
A. thiellei

SADDLEBACK COMPLEX
A. latezonatus
A. polymnus
A. sebae

MAROON COMPLEX
P. biaculeatus

10/28/2007, 08:02 AM	#53
xxpipedreamxx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 543	I am a she actually, lol It is very disheartening when someone does not appreciate my advise. I have helped several people on the anemones and clownfish forum and love to help anyone that has any issues. I don't like to see any animal in distress and just like to really make sure that people understand it is best to have a tank that is nearly a year old before introducing such a delicate species. There are water parameters that we can not check for that can definitely stress out any animal. I understand that you are doing the best that you can now on an impulse purchase. I just wanted to see you wait quite a while before attempting another one if that one kicked the bucket. As for the freeze dried krill, you need to be searching through the frozen foods at your LFS for silversides, large plankton, krill, mysis, squid, ect. The foods needs to be raw meat and not freeze dried. Also, if they have vitachem or selcon, that would greatly boost the nutritional value of anything you feed it. __________________ The past never happened, the future will never come, and the present isn't real. Current Tank Info: Clownfish breeding, 46 gallon, 29 gallon, 15 gallon, three ten gallons, one 5.5 gallon, all with T-5 HO lighting for my BTA's

10/28/2007, 02:26 PM	#56
xxpipedreamxx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 543	Try for around 1/4" slices. The smaller the food, the easier it is to digest. Good choices on foods __________________ The past never happened, the future will never come, and the present isn't real. Current Tank Info: Clownfish breeding, 46 gallon, 29 gallon, 15 gallon, three ten gallons, one 5.5 gallon, all with T-5 HO lighting for my BTA's

10/28/2007, 08:16 PM	#58
zma21 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NOLA Posts: 1,453	Good luck from here. __________________ SCA 50 Starfire: In Progress Current Tank Info: 20 High -> 40 Cube -> Nanocube 12 DX -> 25 Gallon Rimless -> 10 Gallon AGA Temporary Tank -> JBJ 24 LED -> SCA Starfire 50 Cube

10/28/2007, 08:45 PM	#59
petoonia HereWeGoAgain... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,648	Its looking better!! All you can do now is keep up with tank maintenance, and be patient. I know waiting is the worst part, but hang in there, and give it some time. Don't try to feed it to often. Also try to feed a variety of foods the more variety the better!!! I would try to feed it again in 2 or 3 days until it starts to show a lot of improvement. Then I would cut down to feeding once or twice a week. When my anemone wasn't doing well I cut the food up really really well almost shredding it, its a lot easier for the anemone to eat. Good luck!!! __________________ I've been in the hobby for about 10 years....(so I know a little bit)...(but not all that much).... Current Tank Info: 58G. Oceanic (Starphire). Mixed Reef

10/29/2007, 09:26 AM	#61
xxpipedreamxx Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 543	Yes there are different complexes of clownfish. Let me spell it out for you. I can go into more detail if needed. PERCULA COMPLEX A. ocellaris A. percula TOMATO COMPLEX A. ephippium A. melanopus A. frenatus A. mccullochi A. rubrocinctus CLARKII COMPLEX A. akindynos A. allardi A. bicinctus A. chagosensis A. chrysogaster A. chrysopterus A. clarkii A. fuscocaudatus A. latifasciatus A. tricinctus SKUNK COMPLEX A. akallopisos A. leucokranos A. nigripes A. perideraion A. sandaracinos A. thiellei SADDLEBACK COMPLEX A. latezonatus A. polymnus A. sebae MAROON COMPLEX P. biaculeatus __________________ The past never happened, the future will never come, and the present isn't real. Current Tank Info: Clownfish breeding, 46 gallon, 29 gallon, 15 gallon, three ten gallons, one 5.5 gallon, all with T-5 HO lighting for my BTA's

10/28/2007, 12:33 PM	#54
JPReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bucyrus, Ohio Posts: 245	ok, im glad you understood i wasn't trying to be mean. so im glad thats taken care of. i did pick up some silversides, frozen mysis shrimp, and vitachem to feed him today. now that your ok with posting in this thread again i have a question for you. since the little guy is so small should i cut the silverside in half and soak in vitachem? or should i just put the whole piece in to give to him?

10/28/2007, 01:54 PM	#55
ReefGirlSara Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Archer, FL Posts: 709	the smaller the better I think, so it doesn't have to work very hard to eat it.

10/28/2007, 08:12 PM	#57
JPReef Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bucyrus, Ohio Posts: 245	Well he finally ate half a silverside soaked in vitachem. and hes lookin better, keeping inflated and all. what do ya guys think?