Rate Your Vortech Experience - Page 3

macreefster · 04/23/2008, 06:26 PM

i don't know about others here, but i don't need to justify the money i spent on my vortech. it not only is worth every penny, but it's a small percentage of the total investment in my system. let's see....need i justify my chiller, lights, calcium reactor, live rock, corals, fish, pumps... each costing more than the vortech? i never got into this hobby to save money, i just want to provide the best environment possibly for my inhabitants.

cd77 · 04/23/2008, 06:39 PM

+1 - worth every penny. I've ditched far more expensive items, including light fixtures, acrylic sumps, etc.. for better items and have no problem at all admitting to making a bad purchase. Not to mention all of the Koralia's I went through trying to find the perfect flow pattern -- which are now sitting in a cardboard box somewhere

The only thing I've had to purchase for my pump (besides extra foam guards which I like to have handy) was a new wet side -- a bent/broken pin on the spacer will quickly destroy the wet side magnet. A lot of the issues I've read regarding noise, vibrations, or regular replacement of parts I suspect may have to do with having the correct spacer setting, a very clean wet and dry side for mounting, and being very careful not to bend or break a pin when adjusting the spacer. On my 70G, I've found the pin spacer isn't even necessary.

mcrist · 04/23/2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by bristle
I don't own one but after reading this thread...

Seems like they are noisy and break down frequently. And it's not the same part all the time either. To me, it's just people trying to justify the money they spent on it.

I disagree...

sherm71tank · 04/23/2008, 07:16 PM

This isn't a thread for debating each others opinions. I think it's nice to get everyone's input without any personal bashing. That way everyone will be more likely to share their experience in a honest way. Clearly many people have had good luck with the pumps and many have not.

melev · 04/23/2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by sherm71tank
This isn't a thread for debating each others opinions. I think it's nice to get everyone's input without any personal bashing. That way everyone will be more likely to share their experience in a honest way. Clearly many people have had good luck with the pumps and many have not.

I agree. Additionally the person that sparked that response does not own one and merely ruffled some feathers unnecessarily.

krzyphsygy · 04/26/2008, 07:07 AM

I have a problem as of last night, so I guess what serivce I receive will dictate the rating. I love the design and idea. But 1 month in use and rust already on the magnet and the controller does not work.

Before that I was a 10 all the way.

mga345 · 04/30/2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by rmougey
I have two, on separate tanks, each with a BBU. Upgraded to WWDs during the first go around. 1st pump was early generation. EcoTech provided great support, swapped out parts and helped identify and correct issues. 2nd unit was purchased later, no service requirements or issues at all.

Recently purchased an extra wet side for use when cleaning the pumps. Don't have to take them out of service that way.

Love 'em. Can I give each pump a 5 and end up with a 10?

Next project: adding a second pump to the 175 to play with sync/anti-sync options.

-Rob

Hi,

I have two MP40 pumps. As you can see, I live in Israel.
How can I purchase an extra wet side for use when cleaning the pumps?
I find it as good idea to keep a wet side as a reserve part.

Moshe

Wrench · 04/30/2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by mcrist
I disagree...

You are wrong. These pumps are very reliable and relatively quiet. I'm not saying they're silent, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little noise to enjoy the other benefits of the Vortec.

I am willing to bet that most of the problems can be attributed to user error. Not centering the two halves will cause excessive wear, premature failure and excessive noise. We all know what water/humidity will do to a driver or transformers (which are usually stupidly placed inside the stand). I'm not saying that this is true in all cases but it's just too easy for most to be ignorant and blame the product when that's not the case.

mcrist · 04/30/2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by Wrench
You are wrong. These pumps are very reliable and relatively quiet. I'm not saying they're silent, but I'm willing to sacrifice a little noise to enjoy the other benefits of the Vortec.

I am willing to bet that most of the problems can be attributed to user error. Not centering the two halves will cause excessive wear, premature failure and excessive noise. We all know what water/humidity will do to a driver or transformers (which are usually stupidly placed inside the stand). I'm not saying that this is true in all cases but it's just too easy for most to be ignorant and blame the product when that's not the case.

I think you misunderstood what I was disagreeing with. I own two Vortechs and like them more than the two Tunzes I own. Not that there is anything wrong with the Tunze they are both awesome products with advantages and disadvantages to both of them. It's like comparing two high end cars, I would be happy with either one.

I agree with you that a lot of the problems are probably attributed to user error.

04/23/2008, 06:26 PM	#51
macreefster Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 1,015	i don't know about others here, but i don't need to justify the money i spent on my vortech. it not only is worth every penny, but it's a small percentage of the total investment in my system. let's see....need i justify my chiller, lights, calcium reactor, live rock, corals, fish, pumps... each costing more than the vortech? i never got into this hobby to save money, i just want to provide the best environment possibly for my inhabitants. __________________ mac Current Tank Info: 70gal sps reef (36x24x20), 50g sump, 25g refugium, vertex alpha cone 170, 2 x 250w 14k phoenix w/ lumenmax 3's, 2 vortech mp40w's, eheim 1262 return pump

04/23/2008, 06:39 PM	#52
cd77 Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fishers, IN, USA Posts: 1,169	+1 - worth every penny. I've ditched far more expensive items, including light fixtures, acrylic sumps, etc.. for better items and have no problem at all admitting to making a bad purchase. Not to mention all of the Koralia's I went through trying to find the perfect flow pattern -- which are now sitting in a cardboard box somewhere The only thing I've had to purchase for my pump (besides extra foam guards which I like to have handy) was a new wet side -- a bent/broken pin on the spacer will quickly destroy the wet side magnet. A lot of the issues I've read regarding noise, vibrations, or regular replacement of parts I suspect may have to do with having the correct spacer setting, a very clean wet and dry side for mounting, and being very careful not to bend or break a pin when adjusting the spacer. On my 70G, I've found the pin spacer isn't even necessary. __________________ -Chris Current Tank Info: 70G Reef (Aug 2007), 45G Reef (Dec 2007)

04/23/2008, 07:16 PM	#54
sherm71tank Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,670	This isn't a thread for debating each others opinions. I think it's nice to get everyone's input without any personal bashing. That way everyone will be more likely to share their experience in a honest way. Clearly many people have had good luck with the pumps and many have not.

04/26/2008, 07:07 AM	#56
krzyphsygy Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,148	I have a problem as of last night, so I guess what serivce I receive will dictate the rating. I love the design and idea. But 1 month in use and rust already on the magnet and the controller does not work. Before that I was a 10 all the way.